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Let's talk custom orthotics (Read 985 times)

Al1


    I'm coming to a point where I want to try custom orthotics to hopefully eliminate several juries that I frequently battle. So what do I need to know before buying custom orthotics. There's a store (Foot Solutions) in a local strip mall that makes custom orthotics. I stop in the other day, they discussed "scanning" my feet and producing a digital image that shows all sorts of information regarding my feet. The pedorthist sounded very knowledgable regarding their process. I have heard people discuss custom orthotics that are made from a mold that you insert your foot into and actually put weight on. Other posts discuss making a cast mold of your foot without weight. So, does it really matter? Since my insurance doesn't cover custom orthotics, cost and durability are important. I don't want to have to purchase new orthotics every other year. At the Foot Solution store, the first pair of orthotics cost $250. If you purchase a second pair within a year, the second pair costs $199. Is this what you would expect to pay for custom orthotics? So... what's important in a pair of custom orthotics? I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion.
    dillydoodles


      Al, here is my L-O-N-G story about custom orthotics.... I started running in July 2006. I had purchased (what I thought at the time were) good shoes, Saucony Cohesions. I bought them from a well-known Sports shop (but not a specialty running store). Within days I began experiencing a really awful burning pain in my ankle AFTER running (never during). I thought it was because this was a new activity for me and my body would adjust. I'd prop my foot up and ice my ankle when it got sore and it would be fine later on. However, after about a month, I was still getting this burning pain in my ankle after every run. I explained this to my chiropractor and saw him a few times for adjustments to my feet. Yank this; pull that, snap, crack - it never helped. So, I looked in the phone book, picked a Podiatrist, and made an appointment. He asked me a couple of questions, then took about 2 seconds to watch me walk (just on the floor - no equipment), and immediately recommended custom orthotics. He had a technician take castings of my feet, and he sort of held my foot at "the proper angle" while the plaster stuff dried. I THOUGHT we were fully covered for custom orthotics, so even though the price quoted was $475.00 (Canadian), I went ahead and ordered them and gave a $200.00 deposit. However, the next day I had an uneasy gut feeling about my purchase, and did some more research. I talked to a few people - my family doctor (who is also a triathlete); the owner of a Runners store here in town; and a friend who wears orthotics. They all basically said I could not have picked a worse Podiatrist to go to. Apparently, the doc I saw doesn't have all the proper equipment and he's mainly into selling orthotics to everyone, whether they really need them or not. Apparently he also charges the most for orthotic devices, even though he doesn't sell the very best quality. I was told I should cancel the orthotics immediately. They also recommended a couple of foot specialists they felt were better. It was not an easy task, but I did manage to get my $200.00 deposit back from the first guy. Then I ended up going to two different doctors for an evaluation, one was a Podiatrist, the other a Pedorthist. (The man from the running store also gave me an evaluation – watched me run on a treadmill, etc.) All three people, the two docs and the owner of the running store told me that the Saucony shoes I was wearing were not the right ones for me feet. All recommended a neutral cushioning shoe and both doctors recommended custom orthotics. I liked both doctors. They both used computerized gait analysis (very interesting) and did a physical examination and watched me run on a treadmill. I made my choice on who to order the orthotics from based on who seemed the most knowledgeable about running. I paid $425.00 (Canadian) and our insurance covered $200.00 of the price. I have high arches on both feet, but my feet do not hit the ground the same way. My left has a normal strike, but my right foot lands on the outside edge (way too much) then rolls inward (but not evenly), and something weird happens with my toes, LOL! I was told that with the right shoes and the custom orthotics, my biomechanics would improve. So I gave away the Sauconys, I have two new pairs of running shoes that I love (Mizunos), have my custom orthotics; I have no pain at all when I run, have not experienced any injuries at all --- but I STILL get the burning pain in my ankle after every run! Ends up I have arthritis in my ankle and there is really nothing that will help. (I'm 54. I probably have arthritis everywhere!) My family doc says just rest, elevate and ice after every run. He also said running may actually help with the arthritis – eventually – but at least running will NOT make it worse. I am glad I got the orthotics though. My right foot used to land awkwardly when I ran. It always felt a bit like it was flopping and twisting a bit. Now each foot strike feels solid underfoot and every step is comfortable. They did take some getting used to though. I’ll post the break-in recommendations I got from my doc when I bought my orthotics (separately). Arlene (Sorry this is so long. I tend to ramble.......) And I wish there was preview button, LOL!
      dillydoodles


        Custom Orthotics: Use, Wear and Maintenance Please read the following instructions carefully to obtain the maximum benefits from your new custom orthotics or insoles. 1. Orthotic devices are similar to contact lenses. You cannot wear them continuously in the beginning. On the first day, wear your new orthotics for no more than one hour; on the second day, two hours; and so on until you can wear them comfortably for longer periods. It will take time for your feet to adjust to a new way of walking, but the adjustment period is well worth the wait. If you find that the orthotics become uncomfortable, decrease the wearing time, and then gradually build it up again. After about one to two weeks, you should be able to wear the orthotics comfortably all day. 2. You should feel no sharp edges or ridges. There will be some pressure in the arch area. If your orthotic inserts have metatarsal pads, you will feel additional pressure from those pads on the shafts of your metatarsal bones for at least two weeks until your foot becomes accustomed to the pads. 3. If you experience discomfort in the lower back, hips or knees, you should reduce the length of time and then gradually increase it again. In all likelihood, these symptoms will disappear rapidly as your body realigns itself and functions more efficiently. 4. Do not wear your orthotics for sport activities until you have fully adjusted to them while walking and standing. 5. Remember to remove the old insoles inside your shoes before placing your custom orthotics in the shoes. Leave the old insole in place only if you need to occupy room in the shoe. 6. Women’s step-in shoes may slip off at the heel when orthotics are worn. If this occurs, purchase shoes with a deeper heel seat or a higher heel counter. This situation often corrects itself as the condition of your feet improves. 7. Your orthotics may squeak when you walk, which is not uncommon. A dusting of foot or baby powder into your shoes before inserting your orthotics should alleviate the problem. If this does not work, apply soap or wax to the edges of your orthotics. 8. The orthotics may be cleaned with soap and lukewarm water. Hot water will damage them. 9. Do not use your orthotics in extreme force situations: such as on rung ladders or with a kick shovel—as this may damage the shell. 10. Most orthotics can be reconditioned after showing wear with new top-covers and posts—ask your pedorthist for more information and associated costs. 11. Your body will adjust more easily to the changes in the way you walk if you follow these instructions. Once you have become accustomed to your orthotics, it is not necessary for you to wear them a specified length each day. What is important is that you are comfortable while you are wearing them and remember that it takes time to correct a lifetime of walking abnormally.
          As far as cost, I just got some too (although my insurance will cover it), but I went through the Bone and Joint clinic and they are $450. They just cast my feet in instant dry plaster, but the scanning sounds much more advanced. My doctor said to make sure they weren't the hard plastic kind, even though they are custom orthotics, because that can cause problems for runners since it has no shock absorption. I'm sure they know that but just wanted to double check. Smile
          Kate ;) "The pain of regret is greater than the pain of self discipline."
            Oh, and the reason I am getting them is for flat feet and bow legs that cause problems with shin splints/IT band injury. I went to a physical therapist and after months of that he decided that my muscles were strong enough and it should be healed, but the problem kept occuring. Then when body mechanics came into play I thought it'd be worth a shot. I know that orthotics get a bad rep from a lot of people, but my running buddies that have them say they make a world of difference. Hope this helps.
            Kate ;) "The pain of regret is greater than the pain of self discipline."
              I had orthotics in high school and college.... took a 15 year sabbatical from running ... just got a new pair 3 weeks ago... here's what I learned: 1) Insurance covered all of mine, largely because I'm diabetic and diabetics are prone to foot problems... I have zero diabetic foot problems, but once in a while it's good to have diabetes. Yay, diabetes! 2) My bill would've been $500, too - had insurance not paid for it. 3) RE: hand casts or scanner --- my doctor actually just got a scanner in her one office (the one I didn't go to) and gave me the choice of scanning or hand-casted... she herself isn't so sure the scanner will be any better (said she's been doing hand casts for 20 years and has gotten pretty good at it), but the scanner company put it in for a free evaluation and she said I was welcome to try it. I didn't, only because I wanted to get them ASAP and would've had to make another appt to go to her office with the scanner. 4) Since coming back to running, I'd had all of the pre-orthotic aches I remembered from years past.... (mainly knee pain from over pronating) They went away almost immediately. 5) My Doc disagrees with Kate's on 1 thing: Because I'm a runner, she specifically recommended the hard graphite ones because they don't flex - therefore will do a better job of holding the alignment... she thinks your shoe should do the flexing... not the orthotic... Then again, you know what they say about opinions... Personally, I doubt there's much difference... But if the main question is - do orthotics help, I think the answer is yes... If I had to pay for them out of pocket, I'd probably pay the $500 rather than $250 for mail order.. $250 doesn't sound like a lot for expertise (and most doctors would also give you a price break for later pairs since they have the mold already made).

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              Al1


                Thanks for everyone's advise. Foot Solutions isn't a mail order outfit (http://www.denverfootsolutions.com/). I would go to their store/office and get personal attention on the fitting of the orthotics. The problems that I hope to correct with orthotics are shin splints, sciatica/piriformis syndrome and a metatarsal lift on my right foot. All my problems seem to be right side related. However, I did have IT band problems on my left leg, but not recently. Anyway thanks. I'll let you all know what I do. I'm paying for my kid's college right now, so money is tight.
                Al1


                  1) Insurance covered all of mine, largely because I'm diabetic and diabetics are prone to foot problems.
                  Marcus- I tried to comment on your blog on diabetes, but it became too difficult trying to become a member. Anyway, I wanted to comment on your diabetes. My 19-year old son (freshman at Ohio State) was diagnosed with type 1 this past June. He's doing fine on his Medtronic pump, but is still trying to figure everything out with exercise and different foods to hopefully tighten up his control. He seems to swing a lot, which frustrates him. However, at his dr's appt last month, he did have an A1C of 5.5%. Dr was very pleased, but was concerned about his frequent lows. Our family doesn't have any history with diabetes, so we are learning a lot fast. It blew us all away, when we entered him in the hospital two weeks after HS graduation with a BG of over 1000. The nurses were amazed that he walked into the ER versus being in a coma. I'm going to show him your training log and blog next time he is home.
                    Hi Al- First up, thanks for trying to visit the blog... The new Blogger really stinks so I'm not surprised if they made it difficult to comment. Second - I didn't realize those orthotics were like a discount walk-in place... that's very cool..... given the expertise required to fit orthotics (and I say that tongue in cheek), if I had a place like that here, I'd definitely go to it to save $250. Third, good luck to your son... Diabetes doesn't need to be nearly as scary as some make it sound... getting on a pump is DEFINITELY the right way to go (I went 18 years on shots before moving to the pump 4 years ago), and things will also even out a bit as he hits his 20's and hormones slow down a bit (which are tough on blood sugars, too). I'll have diabetes 23 years come April, haven't had a single complication and still think it's one of the most manageable conditions a person could have... I'm a terrible fund raiser for the disease because I just think there are so many things worse than it. Smile M

                    Go to http://certainintelligence.blogspot.com for my blog.

                    Al1


                      I'll have diabetes 23 years come April, haven't had a single complication and still think it's one of the most manageable conditions a person could have... I'm a terrible fund raiser for the disease because I just think there are so many things worse than it. Smile
                      Thanks M for the reply back. I'll pass along your opinion on diabetes control. Go luck with your training. I'll let everyone know if I buy a pair of custom orthotics.
                      Al1


                        Hi All....It's been a long time healing from my injury with plantar fasciitis which actually started in Dec-06. I had every intention of participating in the 1000 mi club, but had to drop out in early Feb due to my injury. After two dose paks of prednisone, a steroid injection, lots of ice, lots of anti-inflammatories, a night boot and finally a pair of custom orthotics, I think, I'm finally healed enough to slowly start running again. In the end, I believe it was the custom orthotic that got things going in the right direction. I got my custom orthotic from my Podiatrist, which cut the price to $200 since my insurance wouldn't pay for them. The podiatrist made a plaster mold of my foot to send to the company that made the orthotic. I have been very pleased with the orthotic and how they felt from the start. I have my fingers crossed that the plantar fasciitis doesn't flare up again.
                          Congrats, Al, and welcome back!

                          Go to http://certainintelligence.blogspot.com for my blog.

                            Hi All....It's been a long time healing from my injury with plantar fasciitis which actually started in Dec-06. I had every intention of participating in the 1000 mi club, but had to drop out in early Feb due to my injury. After two dose paks of prednisone, a steroid injection, lots of ice, lots of anti-inflammatories, a night boot and finally a pair of custom orthotics, I think, I'm finally healed enough to slowly start running again. In the end, I believe it was the custom orthotic that got things going in the right direction. I got my custom orthotic from my Podiatrist, which cut the price to $200 since my insurance wouldn't pay for them. The podiatrist made a plaster mold of my foot to send to the company that made the orthotic. I have been very pleased with the orthotic and how they felt from the start. I have my fingers crossed that the plantar fasciitis doesn't flare up again.
                            Hey Al! It sounds like you've been on quite the journey! I've been a little sidelined since mid March with some ankle/ hip issues and recently got custom orthotics too. I've just begun to wear them and so far so good! I've got my fingers crossed for you too! Let us know how they're working. ~Joni~