In need of a Moral compass - Running bandit. (Read 1203 times)

    Jim, I was with you until you implied that the conscious and deliberate violation of rules is unethical. Solely the fact that a rule is consciously and deliberately broken does not make an act unethical (ask MLK, Ghandi, or Prefontaine for that matter). If the rule is unethical, the conscious and deliberate breaking of the rule is actually a highly ethical act. So, your argument needs one more step: you need to show that charging for a race is an ethical act.
    My argument was not based on "charging for a race", but on requiring registration, which serves purposes other than just collecting an entry fee. Your argument establishes that it is ethical for an individual to violate or ignore a law or rule of conduct that s/he can demonstrate to be "unethical", as MLK, Ghandi and Pre did. I agree. In the case of race banditry, I submit that the responsibility lies with the bandit to demonstrate that charging to participate in a race is unethical, not with me to show that it is ethical.


    Why is it sideways?

      And not an opinion that it's OK to bandit downhill races in wet conditions.
      Big grin


      Why is it sideways?

        In the case of race banditry, I submit that the responsibility lies with the bandit to demonstrate that charging to participate in a race is unethical, not with me to show that it is ethical.
        Okay, that's reasonable. I guess I don't really see banditing as an ethical issue because I don't see it as a real problem with bad consequences. It could become a real problem if everyone decided to do it. But it hasn't and won't. Because people like to feel like they are a part of the celebration. I don't see why someone would want to bandit. But I also don't see why people are so outraged at the mere idea of banditing. Seems to me like this outrage is also a violation of the celebratory spirit of the race. Which is why most race directors will actually give you permission to bandit if you ask. Because they are generous, and denying access to the celebration is--to my mind--more petty than asking for it.
        milkbaby


          Which is why most race directors will actually give you permission to bandit if you ask. Because they are generous, and denying access to the celebration is--to my mind--more petty than asking for it.
          Really? I wouldn't be on it... Also, don't forget the issue of fairness as a role in moral and ethical decision making. When the race advertises that the fee is different for registration by different dates, that applies to all and is fair. However, when everybody else running the race paid a registration fee and you did not, that is unfair. And that is not unfairness by the randomness of the universe or God's caveat, such as when one baby is born healthy but another is born with serious birth defects, it is one caused and specifically created by you, the bandit.
          "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi "I have need to be all on fire, for I have mountains of ice about me to melt." -- William Lloyd Garrison "The marathon is an art; the marathoner is an artist." -- Kiyoshi Nakamura