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Knee Pain Again (Read 781 times)

Paul Days


    Last year i went out and started to run. After about 1 and a half weeks, i got knee pain, real bad, that i gave up the sport. For christmas I decided to get some Running Sneakers, a pretty good one, Nike Bowerman with arch support (which i have no idea where they go) and footbridge. I decided to start again. I am doin all of this on a treadmill, for metropolitan living is a b*&@h. All started well, but 4 weeks into it, and about 3 miles a day, i am starting to get knee pain again.... I have read here and will start doing the iced towel thing before i run and using it for 15 mins after, and before that i will stretch, but my concern is......why does my knee hurt? I am not doing any intense speed, less than half way. Now i do believe it might be that i really am not a runner and my muscles are under-developed. But if i quit now, then i fear i might quit for good. BTW, 30 year old, average build, can do 30 push-ups per set, 30 situps per set, no problems. I admit i dont stretch, but when I ran in college a mile a day for warm ups and in soccer for hours, i never got knee pains? Is it the treadmill? or is it how i run? I was thinking of doing 2 or 3 weeks of brisk walking, but wouldn't that be worse for the knee? Any suggestions is truly appreciated Paul
    invisible


      Icing after a run AND before going to bed is a good idea. Here are three exercises that cure and prevent 'runners knee'. They worked for me. I do them on my off days. Standing Leg Lifts: Stand with your back against the wall. Lift one leg up as high as you can with the knee straight. Hold for five seconds, then bend your knee to relax, hold for five seconds. Straighten your leg again, and do five of these before switching to the other leg. Over time, see if you can build up to ten seconds. Foot Turns: Lie down or sit in a chair and stretch both legs out, knees straight and feet pointed up toward the knees. Tighten your thigh muscles and turn your feet out as far as you can, holding for ten seconds. Now turn your feet in as far as you can and hold for ten seconds, keeping your thigh muscles tight for the entire exercise. Do three of these sets. Foot Press: Either sitting or lying down, put one foot on top of the other and pull up with your lower foot as you push down with the upper foot. Hold that for ten seconds, and then switch feet and repeat. Try five sets of these.
      90 percent of the game is not giving up.
        Last year i went out and started to run. After about 1 and a half weeks, i got knee pain, real bad, that i gave up the sport. For christmas I decided to get some Running Sneakers, a pretty good one, Nike Bowerman with arch support (which i have no idea where they go) and footbridge. I decided to start again. I am doin all of this on a treadmill, for metropolitan living is a b*&@h. All started well, but 4 weeks into it, and about 3 miles a day, i am starting to get knee pain again.... I have read here and will start doing the iced towel thing before i run and using it for 15 mins after, and before that i will stretch, but my concern is......why does my knee hurt? I am not doing any intense speed, less than half way. Now i do believe it might be that i really am not a runner and my muscles are under-developed. But if i quit now, then i fear i might quit for good. BTW, 30 year old, average build, can do 30 push-ups per set, 30 situps per set, no problems. I admit i dont stretch, but when I ran in college a mile a day for warm ups and in soccer for hours, i never got knee pains? Is it the treadmill? or is it how i run? I was thinking of doing 2 or 3 weeks of brisk walking, but wouldn't that be worse for the knee? Any suggestions is truly appreciated Paul
        Paul - how did you choose your running shoes? Did you have them fitted for you by a running shop - after someone analysed how you run to make sure you were getting the right shoes? Nike Bowerman with arch support may be pretty good shoes but only if they are the right type for the way you run.
          I second Mandy on the shoes. My first shoes were New Balance and they felt great on the arch. But I ended up with a stress fracture because they were all wrong. Get proper shoes and keep mileage slow and steady as you build your base. Have fun, though! Smile

          Suffering Benefiting from mature onset exercise addiction and low aerobic endorphin release threshold. Hoping there is no cure.

          CoachNate


            Do you have access to an Elipitical? Treadmill can be really pounding day after day... I suggest trading them off. Of course it depends where your Knee pain is... out side (IT band related?) or is it your Knee cap not tracking right? (imbalance of strength quad vs ham)... Those are the two most common once I see when working with runners, and are VERY different.
            Paul Days


              Ok after one day of not running, i think i can say that the slight pain is now....soreness. But the pain is definately on top or when standing in the front of the knee. I am taking Advil, and will resume walking briskly. I honestly used to just do the foot behind buttock stretch for 15 seconds per foot, 3 times after running. But now i get the sense that maybe thats not enough. Umm, not sure about trading in the equipment, atleast for now. Thanks Dave.
              Paul Days


                Paul - how did you choose your running shoes? Did you have them fitted for you by a running shop - after someone analysed how you run to make sure you were getting the right shoes? Nike Bowerman with arch support may be pretty good shoes but only if they are the right type for the way you run.
                I went to a Nike shoe store and ask for a Running shoe that would work well for a treadmill. But no, no one analysed how I run. one thing. I haven't inserted the anatomical arch support, and have no idea even where thy go.
                Paul Days


                  Icing after a run AND before going to bed is a good idea. Here are three exercises that cure and prevent 'runners knee'. They worked for me. I do them on my off days. Standing Leg Lifts: Stand with your back against the wall. Lift one leg up as high as you can with the knee straight. Hold for five seconds, then bend your knee to relax, hold for five seconds. Straighten your leg again, and do five of these before switching to the other leg. Over time, see if you can build up to ten seconds. Foot Turns: Lie down or sit in a chair and stretch both legs out, knees straight and feet pointed up toward the knees. Tighten your thigh muscles and turn your feet out as far as you can, holding for ten seconds. Now turn your feet in as far as you can and hold for ten seconds, keeping your thigh muscles tight for the entire exercise. Do three of these sets. Foot Press: Either sitting or lying down, put one foot on top of the other and pull up with your lower foot as you push down with the upper foot. Hold that for ten seconds, and then switch feet and repeat. Try five sets of these.
                  Will give this a try and let you know.
                  invisible


                    I know, already. Smile They are superlatively effective exercises.
                    90 percent of the game is not giving up.
                    invisible


                      I guess I should add, since I said I do them on my off days, that every other day is off. Also, when I was having knee problems, I did them every day and sometimes morning (you can do them in bed), noon and night.
                      90 percent of the game is not giving up.
                        If you've not been fitted for your shoes, they may contribute to the pain. I bought a pair of Asics, on sale, because I liked the way the way they looked (and because I was an idiot. Blush) I had excruciating knee pain, to the point I almost gave up running. Turns out that my bargain shoes were designed to provide way more stability than my neutral gait could handle. Forcing my foot into an unnatural position caused stress on my knee. I went to a reputable running store and got fitted for a more appropriate pair of shoes and the pain was gone on the very first run. Teresa
                        Paul Days


                          FINAL UPDATE ON PAIN: This morning, the pain or sore has subsided about 85%. I can pinpoint the exact pain location. On each knee its on the Front Interior section of the kneecap. If its for instance the right knee, the pain or soreness is on the lower-left side, as if i am looking down on the knee. I am about to get on the 'mill, gonna walk the miles today, then stretch and ice. Hope this all helps somebody else. BTW: will go get a shoe specialist/ Thanks all Paul