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I will add, though, that (maybe because I live in Colorado) that sunscreen is a year-round thing for me, not just a summertime thing.
I lived in the Colorado mountains for about 12 years. One of my worst sunburns came from a day of skiing at Arapahoe Basin in April. Face only of course. The sun can definitely be harsh at the higher altitude.
As for wearing sunblock though, I don't bother because my weekday runs are either before the sun is up or after 6pm. My weekend runs are usually done by 8am. If I take the kids to the pool or otherwise be outside when the sun is more intense I will wear it.
Problem Child
Brew -Oh, looking for this?
Yeah that's the one. Enter race distance in meters, hit the lap button at mile markers and it will update distance and pace accordingly. It helped me pace a hilly race. People complained I was going too fast also. On the first hill I told them "don't worry about keeping up with me. I'm staying on pace and you'll be able to catch me on the downhill" because I can't just slow down on a hill to stick with people. On a flat course you might be able to hold 1:30 especially with your current speed.
kk She's okay with me running during the week and usually (beer) I'm to blame for long runs being postponed. Non-running me is also less fun. I'm just imagining the 5-6am wakeup, 16-23 mile runs then "hey let's go hiking" carrying the 20 lb fatty my wife keeps feeding. He is so ROUND!
I've eyeballed the Revel race. My thought was to drive there and sleep in the truck. Wasn't it really cold at the start last year? The second option would be Las Vegas (what was that willis guy last year?) which is similar (downhill to flat) but overall I just think running a 3:07 BQ time is hard even with a downhill assist.
RLK THAT'S FUNNY! Rossi is never going to live it down. I wonder if they'll do the same for half marathons with Jane Seo.
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
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5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22
Jogger
I would be interested in a comparison to 2012, that year a lot of folks didn't requalify. edit: we need sam to chime in on the 'marathon two weeks later experience.'
I would be interested in a comparison to 2012, that year a lot of folks didn't requalify.
edit: we need sam to chime in on the 'marathon two weeks later experience.'
NEVER DO IT
Mile 5:24 3k 11:01 5k 19:01 10k 38:34 hm 1:26:57 fm 3:02:33
I was just looking at the LRC preview for London. Eliud Kipchoge has averaged 2:04:15 in his 8 regular (i.e., non-championship or artificial, so excluding Rio and Breaking 2) marathons. That's incomprehensible.
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Brew - NeRP sounds like he's quite trustworthy (my brother says you can never trust a skinny baby). DW just got through with DD3's 4-month checkup. She's nowhere near as trustworthy as NeRP (she is younger, though) but seems to be taking after me and DD1 in height. The pacing company asked me if I know anyone who might could pace 1:30 at that half - there's about a .5% chance I can do that at the group LR this weekend (assuming I can make it). Looks like we'll be chasing similar BQ times this fall.
Dad - Are you making a case for Eliud as the GOAT? The way he seems to always smile at the end of those races is almost as incredible to me as his times.
5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22
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kipchoge 4 prez
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_________________________________________________mile, 5:26 /5k, 19:34 /10k, 41:00 /13.1, 1:31:49 /26.2, 3:12:58
For the marathon, probably. The marathon is globally competitive -- $$$ --- for runners in their prime nowadays (as opposed to something you only moved up to when you were done w/ track). There are some others (Kiprotich probably has the strongest case), but Oly gold and nothing worse than 2nd to a WR are pretty solid credentials.
(of course, in my heart the answer is Bill Rodgers and JBS!)
When you factor in other-than-marathon Kenny B, Geb, Zatopek, and Paavo Nurmi are probably the final four.
For the marathon, probably. The marathon is globally competitive -- $$$ --- for runners in their prime nowadays (as opposed to something you only moved up to when you were done w/ track). There are some others (Kiprotich probably has the strongest case), but Oly gold and nothing worse than 2nd to a WR are pretty solid credentials. (of course, in my heart the answer is Bill Rodgers and JBS!) When you factor in other-than-marathon Kenny B, Geb, Zatopek, and Paavo Nurmi are probably the final four.
Don't forget about the women if we are discussing marathon GOATs . You can always make the case for a couple of Norwegians there.
Grete Waitz was a 9 time winner of the New York Marathon where she went right from being a 1500 and 3000 meter specialist to winning and setting a world record in her first in 1978 with no training runs longer than 12 miles. She then proceeded to lower the world record 3 more times, winning London twice, winning at the first World Championship in 83 and placing 2nd to Joan Benoit in the Olympics in LA in 84. She also won the world cross country championship 5 times.
Or Ingrid Kristiansen with 8 marathon wins between London, New York, Chicago, and Boston, plus numerous wins in other marathons. She also at some point held the world record at the 5000, 10000, Half Marathon, and Marathon, all at the same time.
5k: 20:32 (1/17) | HM: 1:34:37 (2/18) | FM: 3:31:37 (3/18)
Getting back into it
kk She's okay with me running during the week and usually (beer) I'm to blame for long runs being postponed. Non-running me is also less fun. I'm just imagining the 5-6am wakeup, 16-23 mile runs then "hey let's go hiking" carrying the 20 lb fatty my wife keeps feeding. He is so ROUND! I've eyeballed the Revel race. My thought was to drive there and sleep in the truck. Wasn't it really cold at the start last year? The second option would be Las Vegas (what was that willis guy last year?) which is similar (downhill to flat) but overall I just think running a 3:07 BQ time is hard even with a downhill assist.
I actually think that's part of why I was in such good shape for my last year race -- I literally had to squeeze my runs in at random times, and I'd go hiking after since DH decided he was into that. So I'd run 19 miles and then go hike and by the end of that cycle I was fine with these things. LOL my kid never went through a chubby phase - too active, to determined to wreck things everywhere.
PRs: HM: 1:32:59 (2015); FM: 3:18:36 (2017)
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Don't forget about the women if we are discussing marathon GOATs . You can always make the case for a couple of Norwegians there. Grete Waitz was a 9 time winner of the New York Marathon where she went right from being a 1500 and 3000 meter specialist to winning and setting a world record in her first in 1978 with no training runs longer than 12 miles. She then proceeded to lower the world record 3 more times, winning London twice, winning at the first World Championship in 83 and placing 2nd to Joan Benoit in the Olympics in LA in 84. She also won the world cross country championship 5 times. Or Ingrid Kristiansen with 8 marathon wins between London, New York, Chicago, and Boston, plus numerous wins in other marathons. She also at some point held the world record at the 5000, 10000, Half Marathon, and Marathon, all at the same time.
I'd maybe put Rosa Mota in the discussion, too. She was Olympic and World Champion, multiple Boston and Chicago winner (plus a London win). Respectable times and lots of wins.
11:11 3,000 (recent)
My kid doesn't come with NCAA genetics (THANK GOD!) and if he could use his fatness to get him through the night I'd be happy. This whole 2:00am "I'm not tired or hungry" think is getting old and it's been about a week. The double duty sounds....painful but at least going hiking I get snacks and I can tell DW I need a break which she is usually okay with.
marathon goat Killian or Walmsley if they'd go for roads. I have a feeling those two could put some pressure on the Africans.
Call me naive, but didn't Paula Radcliffe run 2:15 without PED's. That's fast.
The weather in London isn't great, but better than the forecast a week ago. 64F at the start and up to 71F for regular runners by the end. This is the second hot London in the past 10 years. Go climate change!
Anybody know anybody running it?
m: 2:55:04 | 10k: 37:14 | 50mile: 9:35
I think this is the earliest I've been awake and ready to run in a LONG time. I should probably get use to it if I want to keep doing this marathon thing. This will represent about a 4 hour long run from when I leave the house until when I get home.
Escape from Prison Hill at 8:00am. Brought my wizard sticks and my best ultra outfit I could find (55K shirt, compression socks, UD pack, trail shoes) so I look the part of a trail runner. 2-2:15 would be me doing good today. Sub 2 would be AWESOME but I don't think my climbing legs are coming today. Race conditions look to be clear sky with 40-62F with a light breeze out of the east over the 3 hours I'll be out there. This means the false summits and major climbing around mile 7.5 will be in full sun with no relief or cooling until running into the headwind I'm going to encounter. I'm doomed.
Brew -- what a kick. Enjoy the morning and the fresh air! Good luck with sub 2 and look out for tree roots.
Went out to the Catoctin blue trail today for some trail miles. Contemplating a bad idea so I needed to test out those gears. I think I'm downgrading from a BAD idea to a bad idea after that. Everything after about mile 16 felt tough, I had flashbacks to the race from years ago. To be fair it was my first over distance race so everything in that part was new ground (time and distance)
how'd it go brew?