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Wear something with emergency contact info (Read 239 times)


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    Let's say you're finishing a 4mi race with about 300 runners entered. You take a hard right into the finish stretch which is a driveway. You're pushing to beat some guy you've been racing with for the past 1/2mi. You stumble and can't catch yourself with your hands -- planting yourself into the pavement head first.

     

    A few runners in the finish area are doing to usual post-finish things...chatting about who couldn't catch who; complaining about the headwind in the final 1/2mi, noting how much slower we were this year than in the glory days.

     

    As I'm walking towards the table with the water bottles I see you stumble. But what I hear sends shivers, the thunk as your head hits the pavement. The first thought I have...this is serious. I sprint back into the finish chute. First thing first...don't let him move. Check the major things...is he conscious? Where is that blood coming from? Where's the freakin' ambulance.  Holy crap, that's a lot of blood!  Pull off shirt, make a compression for that head cut.  A few other runners arrive. Someone leaves to get help. A runner finishing stops and calls 911 on their phone. Really, no ambulance...cripes there was one at the start!? Someone says "let's get organized"...setup someone to wave in the ambulance, someone else to find a police officer, and (amazingly) someone to direct incoming runners around us. Take the bib and get is name from scoring table, but crap -- no emergency contact was collected.

     

    After what seems like forever, the ambulance arrives. Runner is now somewhat alert, able to talk with us. Someone has arrived with some small towels which we've used to stop the head bleeds at temples and side of head. We turn him over to the EMTs.

     

    Now the hunt for the RD to get someone notified starts. They only have his name. Someone pulls up facebook looking for clues, etc, etc.

     

    I think the facts are that many, many races are small and local events and don't have the huge organization of a race with 2, 3, 10 or more thousands of runners.

     

    For goodness sake, shit happens -- wear something that let's them know who to contact when the cart you off to the hospital.!

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    CanadianMeg


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      I write my ICE and contact number on the back of my bibs (suggested by a RD at a race I did), but I never thought to include my name.

      I do have a shoe tag but as we all know, those shoes can get knocked off if it's a vehicle helping you go down.

      Scary stuff! I hope the runner was alright!

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      rectumdamnnearkilledem

        I do have a shoe tag but as we all know, those shoes can get knocked off if it's a vehicle helping you go down.

         

        I know SO many cyclists who have their Road ID strapped onto their bike handlebars, rather than on their wrists.  I've pointed out that shoes can go flying, and EMTs aren't going to be looking at their bike for ID if it's behind in a ditch while they're carted off in an ambulance.  People are genuinely shocked by the shoe thing and tend not to think ahead to what the scenario will really be, should the worst happen.

         

        Andy, any idea how this guy is fairing?  Relieved to hear that he was at least talking.  I'll bet he ends up with a heckuva concussion.

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          I never run without this on my wrist, race or otherwise. It has my name, DOB, & wife's cell.

           

          Question: do EMTs automatically look for this? In the cold, it might be under a couple layers & not immediately visible.

          I suppose they'll find it eventually.

          Dave


          Half Fanatic #846

            I always run and race with my Road ID on my ankle (it has my name, age, town, allergies, medications, Dr's. name and two contact names and phone numbers on it).  I wouldn't be without it!   It can come in just as handy in an emergency whether I' running in my neighborhood or in a race.

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            hog4life


              In my experiences, the EMT's do not look for ID on the scene. They will be focused on life threatening issues. The folks at the hospitals will be the ones that start looking for contact info.

              My wife had this very same incident you described MT. Luckily they had an ambulance at the finish area. I requested she take the ride. She had a neck vertebrae fusion several years earlier and I felt the ambulance ride was necessary. She ended up with two bone fractures, one in the nasal cavity, the other was an orbital bone. She still suffers from headaches after 9 moths.

               

              I always write my name, wife's name and cell on the back of my bibs.

              catwhoorg


              Labrat

                I got the Road ID that fits onto my Fitbit.

                 

                So its with me basically 24/7.

                 

                 

                I additionally check the contact portion of my Bib when i get it and fill it out if it isn't prefilled.

                 

                Most of our local RDs print a sticker with the contact info if you pre-registered.

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                Daydreamer1


                   

                  I know SO many cyclists who have their Road ID strapped onto their bike handlebars, rather than on their wrists.  I've pointed out that shoes can go flying, and EMTs aren't going to be looking at their bike for ID if it's behind in a ditch while they're carted off in an ambulance.

                   

                  I'd rather see it on the persons body, That's where we look first. If I arrive on the scene of a bike crash and the person is in bad shape I and my partner will focus on them and not even look at the bike if we don't have time. Also the bike could have been moved, be under a vehicle, or we might just glance at the bike to see the general damage and not notice the Road ID on the handle bars. Once we leave the scene without it we won't have it. Yea people get knocked out of their shoes some times, but if the road ID is a on a bracelet like mine is, that has to come off the ankle as well.  For myself, I will keep putting mine on my ankle or wrist. That's where we look first.

                   

                  Think of it this way.  People with allergies wear their medic alert tags on their wrist or around their neck and I think the military still wears their dog tags around their necks.  I say keep the Road ID on the body.

                   

                  Paramedic for past 21 years.

                   

                  PS: If you don't have a Road ID or something else, get one. They are cheap.

                  cookiemonster


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                    Question: do EMTs automatically look for this? In the cold, it might be under a couple layers & not immediately visible.

                    I suppose they'll find it eventually.

                     

                    Yes.  We do.  We may not look immediately.  But we will look.  Part of EMS assessment is to look for medic alert type tags (dog tags/necklaces, bracelets).  As Hog noted, on scene work will focus on immediate needs such as assessment and treatment of any injuries.  If we can stabilize someone well enough prior to or during transport we will look.  Sometimes, however, our attention and activities don't get much beyond airway, breathing, circulation.

                     

                    It was mentioned wearing one on a FItbit.  I've seen others put them on the bands to a Garmin or their watch.  I'm hesitant to suggest or encourage this.  It's easy to be overlooked if it's attached to these devices.  I know RoadID has products specifically designed for that purpose.  But I've seen them missed both prehospitally and in the trauma bay.  When they're removed they aren't inspected thoroughly for ID tags that might be on the band.  They'll receive a casual glance, "One watch..." as it's dropped into the property bag.

                     

                    Wear it on you.  Wrist.  Ankle.  Necklace.  Putting it on your bike is a good way to keep track of whose bike is whose amidst a pile of bikes.  It won't do any good when people are separated from their bikes.  Shoes can and will come off.  Please don't wear them on your shoes.

                     

                    Like Daydreamer1 I've been a paramedic for 15 years.  I'm also a PA in a busy Level I trauma center emergency department.  I see, and have seen, way too many of these scenarios way too often.  I wear a RoadID on the opposite wrist from my watch.  I wear it all the time whether I'm running or not.

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                      I even wear my RoadID when I run on hotel treadmills. Stuff can happen.

                       

                                                                       


                      jfa

                        Good thread. I have had the RoadID on my shoes for years.

                        I'll get one for my wrist instead.

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        Toronto


                        Seven Deadly Shins

                          hmm I have a RoadID bracelet but I don't wear it in races.  Filling out the back of the bib ICE info is always a good idea, unless it's a small local race and there's no provision for it.

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                            Question for the EMT folks......I switched from the regular Road id to the slim one. Do you think one is better than the other? I feel like the slim could potentially get overlooked as a "cause bracelet", while the regular is much more obvious. I wear it opposite my watch, so it's the only thing on that arm. The switch was 100% vanity related, way less tan lines from the slim.

                              Cookie and Dreamer, thank you for these posts. Sounds like the shoe/watch/fitbit IDs aren't very good ideas.

                               

                              Think of it this way.  People with allergies wear their medic alert tags on their wrist or around their neck and I think the military still wears their dog tags around their necks.  I say keep the Road ID on the body.

                               

                              Paramedic for past 21 years.

                               

                              Like Daydreamer1 I've been a paramedic for 15 years.  I'm also a PA in a busy Level I trauma center emergency department.  I see, and have seen, way too many of these scenarios way too often.  I wear a RoadID on the opposite wrist from my watch.  I wear it all the time whether I'm running or not.

                              cookiemonster


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                                Question for the EMT folks......I switched from the regular Road id to the slim one. Do you think one is better than the other? I feel like the slim could potentially get overlooked as a "cause bracelet", while the regular is much more obvious. I wear it opposite my watch, so it's the only thing on that arm. The switch was 100% vanity related, way less tan lines from the slim.

                                 

                                Good question.  I've had the same thought/concern regarding the slim but don't have any experience with that particular product to be able to comment one way or the other.

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