How accurate would you say that garmins are? (Read 1204 times)


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    I have a basic model and I use it predominantly for the distance factor.  When I compare it to a run using mapmyrun.com, it always seems that with the garmin, I have run .2 more miles.  Now I know that that is peanuts in the big picture, but I don't know which is more accurate.

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    Trent


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      This is a frequent topic.  Garmin admits to an up to a 2% error rate.  This thread will now hotly debate that issue.

       

      To be fair, online mapping tools also have an error rate.

       

      And this: never map using mapmyrun when you can map using RunningAHEAD Big grin



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        Neither are precise. My Garmin can be off by a bunch depending on the number of trees, buildings, tunnels, turns, etc. On an open relatively straight course its not too bad, but throw in lots of corners, heavy foliage, tall buildings, etc, its going to be all over the place. Over time, if you run the same course alot, I think it averages out pretty close to accurate, but day to day is another story. I have places that I nearly always lose contact between May and Oct, just because of the leaves. Fall and winter, hardly ever.

        Map my run is probably going to be more accurate and more consistant. Obviously the tighter the scale, the better, but even then, its probably unlikely that you'll measure the exact path that you run, weaving around, cutting or squaring corners, etc.

         

        Sorry for being long winded. Short answer MMR is probably a little more accurate and way more repeatable.

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          Mine is extremely accurate. I have mapped out my runs online and then drove them in my car and Garmin is always right on or off by a very small amount. I have messed around with mine and zig zagged back and forth on narrow roads and you can see that on the map once you upload the run. For me (a rookie runner) it is more then i will ever need to know about my run. Again, this is in my humble opinion but if only run 3.95 miles but my Garmin says i ran 4, Big Deal! On the other hand if i think i ran 4 but i actually ran 4.05 then even better yet!

            mine is pretty accurate ... at least more than accurate for us normal mortals.  Usually head out of my development on the same first 1 - 1.5 then change route based on distance and always hot the 1 mile autolap right between the same two mailboxes each time, would say +/- 50 feet and that is probably more from my running corners, etc.

             

            Really more concerned about consistency versus 100% accuracy as I do not think any of us are setting world records.  If i get consistent readings even if results are off by a few seconds per mile then you have a usefull measuring tool.

             

            I think the garmin issue is more of an "experience" factor.  Runners that "grew up" running without technology cant understand why people can not survive without it, afterall they figured out how to run without it.  Kind of like I as a parent who grew up in the 70's can not really appreciate "the need" for all the technology (ie - ipods, cellphones, etc.) that kids cant live without today...All we needed was a pair of sneakers and a ball and if we were missing one or the other we improvised!  Now if electricity goes out for 1/2 hr kids start to go through withdrawal like a crack addict.

             

            Anyways .... For $150 my 305 is an extremly accurate piece of equipment and very valuable training aid, to help hard headed runners like me not run/race too fast.   

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              Mine has performed about how I would expect.  I think, as was said before, if there are not a lot of signal interruptions or sharp turns that they tend to be very accurate.  I base this both on gmap-pedometer comparisons of my routes and measurements on certified courses.  Typically I see the garmin distance just slightly over the certified distance.  The longer the race, the larger the overage.  Most of the 5K courses I have run with my 205 come out to a couple of hundredths of a mile over.  My half marathon came out to 7/100ths over.

               

              Since I know I don't run perfect tangents, have to weave in traffic, veer off for water stops, etc.  I would guess that it typically shows awfully close to what I actually ran.

               

              Out and back courses usually throw it off by a larger margin.  I think the 180 degree turn throws off the garmin.  I notice this both in training and in races.  The distance and lap pace both take funny jumps immediately after a turnaround. 


               

               

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                Completely inaccurate and useless, you might as well be walking on the sun.  Except when they are accurate and measuring your location on the 3rd rock within a few feet of certainty.  Unless you're waving you arms around while running the tangents perfectly. Or running on a course that doesn't measure as per the Garmin.

                 

                When all these happen, it is perfect.  Otherwise just a darn good approximation.  Darn good.

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                  Considering that the Garmins really can't be any more accurate than their data source, I'm quite happy with how accurate it is. I'm actually quite pleased with the accuracy even when on curvy courses. Out of all the races I've ran, only 1 5K has been right on. For all the others, it always told me I ran a little farther than the actual distance. But, that's okay. The watch gives me a great idea of my pace and how much farther I have to go.


                  I even use it sometimes to do 1/2 mile and mile repeats on trails. I don't care if the distance is 100% accurate. What matters if the effort/time factor. 

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                    I took a yard stick and a caliper out last time, and I noticed my garmin measurement was off by several centimeters on the second turn.

                     

                    After that I got too tired of measuring to check the rest.


                    It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

                      Apparently 4 laps around my local high school track is 1.05 miles around lane 1.  There is also an elevation change of 60 feet.  It must be a gradual hill, looks pretty flat to me.

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                        I've found it to depend a lot on what kind of landscape you are in.  In my suburban location, it is extremely accurate.  When I upload and look at a map, I can see what side of the street I was on, if I moved from the road to the sidewalk, etc.  I've even used it on a track and had one lap consistently come out to .25 miles.  However, I've seen that accuracy decrease markedly in a city and even fall apart altogether when used in Manhattan and Chicago.

                         

                        My elevation accuracy always seems off, but I'd guess that this is because 100' seems like a lot more vertically than horizontally.

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                        5K - 18:25 - 3/19/11
                        10K - 39:38 - 12/13/09
                        1/2 - 1:29:38 - 5/30/10
                        Full - 3:45:40 - 5/27/07

                          I've found it to depend a lot on what kind of landscape you are in.  In my suburban location, it is extremely accurate.  When I upload and look at a map, I can see what side of the street I was on, if I moved from the road to the sidewalk, etc.  I've even used it on a track and had one lap consistently come out to .25 miles.  However, I've seen that accuracy decrease markedly in a city and even fall apart altogether when used in Manhattan and Chicago.

                           

                          My elevation accuracy always seems off, but I'd guess that this is because 100' seems like a lot more vertically than horizontally.

                           

                          speaking of Chicago, I wore my garmin during the Shamrock shuffle and while on lower wacker drive, I lost contact with the satelites. What was suppose to be an 8K race, turned out to be about 5.5 miles.  Afterwards, when I plotted the course with the garmin software, it was quite comical to see where it showed that I had ran.   

                          That was good to know this can happen before this fall's marathon -- assuming the marathon course also goes underground for a while. 

                            Apparently 4 laps around my local high school track is 1.05 miles around lane 1.  There is also an elevation change of 60 feet.  It must be a gradual hill, looks pretty flat to me.

                             

                            OK ... I forgot to say ....  The Elavation accuracy is 100% crap and never look at.  Maymyrun or othertools are generally pretty accurate and if really want to plan ahead /review impact of elavation have to cross match.

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                              Garmins are definitely accurate enough to be a useful training tool, but not accurate enough to certify a course.  For whatever reason the accuracy is poor when running on the track, but I find it very accurate when running most other places.

                               

                              I am running the Chicago Marathon in the fall and will probably wear an ordinary wrist watch.    Since I would end up hitting the lap button on my Garmin every mile in the marathon, I figure I might as well wear a lighter watch to keep track of my splits.  It really won't take too long to type in the splits to RA anyway and don't want it distracting me if I do lose the signal.

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                              Trent


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