2022 Advanced Racing Thread (Read 467 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    I stopped drinking alcohol late last year.  Didn't really plan to go totally sober, but I cut the drinking down significantly around Feb last year, and then just stopped enjoying it so I cut it out altogether around November.  Maybe I lost my tolerance or something when I cut down but I'd wake up feeling pretty average after like 2 drinks and so I decided there wasn't much point to it.

     

    I'll always go for a milkshake after a race if I can though!

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Run the Point 10k, 27 Nov, 35:00, 1st overall

    Up next: Speights West Coaster, 10 Dec

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    DavePNW


      I still very much enjoy a variety of alcoholic beverages, mainly beer. Although I can't even remember the last time I was actually drunk, and my typical number of drinks per week is 1. Typically on Saturday evening. More if I'm going out or on vacation or on business travel.

       

      My preferred post-marathon beverage depends on how badly the race has destroyed me.

      - Totally wrecked: Gatorade

      - Moderately trashed: Frappuccino

      - Not too bad at all: Beer.

      Dave

      CommanderKeen


      Aspiring Hobby Jogger

         

        I'll always go for a milkshake after a race if I can though!

         

        Strawberry shake + a (bunless) bacon cheeseburger. Can't beat it.

        5k: 18:05 8/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

         

        Upcoming Races:

         

        Edmond Turkey Trot - 11/24

        CIM - 12/4

          I stopped drinking alcohol yesterday and I'm not planning on starting again till later today 

          50+ PBs -  

          5k 18.21 Hagley Parkrun  July 21      82.27 % age grade

          10k TT 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.51 % age grade

          Half marathon  1.23.30 may 21 80.11 % age grade

          " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

          Somewhere in between is about right "      

           

          darkwave


          Mother of Cats

             

             

            dwave so would you consider yourself "sober" or is that term more for people who quit drinking due to an inability to control it?

             

            I feel like sober is more for people who have stopped drinking due to the inability to control - just as you worded it.

             

            I dunno what the right term is - I just go with "not drinking alcohol right now."

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            DavePNW


               

              I feel like sober is more for people who have stopped drinking due to the inability to control - just as you worded it.

               

              I dunno what the right term is - I just go with "not drinking alcohol right now."

               

              The word used by those of a certain generation is “teetotaler.”

              Dave

              mmerkle


                Training Question:

                 

                How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                Fredford66


                Running Musician

                  Training Question:

                   

                  How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                   

                  Once or twice a year.  Definitely after my spring halves before I start training for fall halves.  Whether I do it after the fall halves depends on when the last fall half is and when the first spring half will be.

                  5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 38:57 (11/22); 10k 49:24 (10/22); Half 1:48:32 (10/22)

                  Upcoming race(s): Winter Series #2 Trail 5k, 12/18; Hangover 5k, 1/1/23
                  DavePNW


                    Training Question:

                     

                    How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                     

                    In general I run every day when I'm healthy. After a marathon, which is generally twice a year, I take 3-6 days off depending on how badly wrecked I am. Then I go back to everyday running, but take about a month to ramp mileage back up with nothing but easy. Then I start adding some speed work back in and may race some shorter distances, but then before you know it, it's back to the next marathon training cycle.

                     

                    In your example, if you're doing really hardcore 5K training - before getting into a formal marathon training plan, I'd do maybe a month of only easy miles, at a maintenance level of weekly mileage. For me, maintenance is about the level of week 1 of the marathon plan.

                     

                    YMMV. Literally and figuratively.

                    Dave

                      Mark after you cut alcohol did you notice an improvement in your running and did you lose any weight ?

                      I always carry some fat round my stomach which I think is from beer.

                      50+ PBs -  

                      5k 18.21 Hagley Parkrun  July 21      82.27 % age grade

                      10k TT 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.51 % age grade

                      Half marathon  1.23.30 may 21 80.11 % age grade

                      " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                      Somewhere in between is about right "      

                       

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        Training Question:

                         

                        How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                         

                        Not really ever.

                         

                        I'll have down weeks after big races, and just take a light and fairly cruisy week, but it's rare for me to take more than 1-2 days off unless I'm sick.  The only time I've taken a large break was when I had a week off after not recovering well from a marathon that I probably overtrained for.  I generally run 6 days a week with a rest day.

                         

                        I never really bought into the theory of running easy for an extended period.  Possibly just because I enjoy workouts a lot.

                         

                        Mark after you cut alcohol did you notice an improvement in your running and did you lose any weight ?

                        I always carry some fat round my stomach which I think is from beer.

                         

                        I did find I was probably hitting workouts a bit more consistently.  Weight probably dropped around 1-2kg, used to be around 71-72kg and now it hovers more around 69-70.  It's hard to say how it impacted overall running performance but that Southern Lakes HM last year was probably my best overall running performance.  It's a shame that we missed the spring National Champs season last year as that would've allowed for the best comparisons.

                        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        * Net downhill course

                        Last race: Run the Point 10k, 27 Nov, 35:00, 1st overall

                        Up next: Speights West Coaster, 10 Dec

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        Running Problem


                        Problem Child

                          Mark after you cut alcohol did you notice an improvement in your running and did you lose any weight ?

                          I always carry some fat round my stomach which I think is from beer.

                           

                          I broke 3 hours. Twice. I’d say that’s a pretty big improvement.

                           

                          edit: my sweet tooth increased in size so I have to watch it.

                          Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

                          VDOT 54.9

                          5k19:35 | Marathon 2:56:07

                          Running Problem


                          Problem Child

                            Training Question:

                             

                            How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                            Since I have been focused on the marathon I’d always take a month off just to get back to ‘running just to run’ enjoyment. No pressure. No required workouts.  Just go run what I feel like with friends or alone.

                            If you’re racing the 5ks then going to marathon training I’d go right into base building and increase the easy miles while keeping the speed work. Put the marathon training start date on a calendar. Count back to the last 5k race and just use the time i between to just build your weekly miles.  This won’t work if you start marathon training in August and have a late July 5k goal race as well as having a 5k this weekend then nothing until August/September.

                            Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

                            VDOT 54.9

                            5k19:35 | Marathon 2:56:07

                            JMac11


                            RIP Milkman

                              Training Question:

                               

                              How often do you take extended time off to hit the "reset button" and go back to base training? Extended time would I guess be 3 + days off, probably after some race. I am trying to figure out whether to do this between my summer training for 5ks and my upcoming fall marathon training. Mostly in the interest of injury prevention. Thanks.

                               

                              I am the laziest person on these boards and probably take the most extended breaks (5+ days probably 4 to 5 times a year). As others have mentioned, it's critical after marathons, less so after other races. I just took 10 days off after my marathon, because I just didnt feel like running and with that distance, you are at risk of injury if you come back too soon. I'm about to take another 7 days off for that trip I just mentioned, but I'll be walking about 15 miles a day, so consider it cross-training.

                               

                              After a block of 5K training? You don't need one, but it doesn't hurt. For injury prevention, strength training is going to matter a lot more than time off.

                               

                              I'd say most time off is more of a mental reset than a physical one for all distances shorter than a marathon.

                              5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                               

                               

                              flavio1980


                              Intl. correspondent

                                 For injury prevention, strength training is going to matter a lot more than time off.

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