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Winter Training - Newbie Question (Read 169 times)

BankZ


    I started running this summer to help recover from a broken leg (Ski Mishap) and I really fell in love with it.  I was doing 40 miles per week (max run was 7 miles).

     

    However, I live in Michigan and I am no longer able to run outside (gets dark too soon and trails are covered in show).  What do people recommend to keep in shape during the winter months?

    kilkee


    runktrun

      There are tons of options, but it depends on what your goals are.

       

      If you just want to slog some slow miles, regular running shoes in soft snow are usually good enough.

       

      If you want to slog some slow miles in deep snow, snowshoes may be your thing.  It will feel different from regular running but is a good workout.  XC skiing is another aerobic option; will get you wicked fit, but not running-specific.

       

      If you're worried about traction but don't care about running fast, there are adjustable "cleats" that you can buy to attack to your shoes.  Yak Trax is the brand that comes to mind, but I haven't used them.  Another option is to stick very short (sheet metal) screws into the soles of your shoes.  The screw heads will provide minimal traction.

       

      As for getting dark early, a running headlamp that is at least 100 lumens should be fine on roads.  Get something a lot brighter (200+ lumens) if you want to run on trails or really need to see the ground clearly, like if you were running a fast workout on roads.

       

      Find a conveniently located gym with treadmills that you like.  Some people can't stand running on a treadmill, but I find they are a great last resort when the weather is absolute shit or you need to run a workout and want to hit certain paces.

       

      See if there's a school near you with an indoor track.  Again, decent option for a workout in a controlled environment.

       

      FWIW, my goal is to run fast, and I have a lot of 200m-1000m workouts planned.  If the roads are clear and there's no black ice, I'll run some workouts on the road by garmin pace, knowing that it's not totally accurate.  I'll get on the track for workouts whenever possible.  If I have an easy run planned for the day, and there's snow cover, I'll tool around the roads and snowy bike paths slowly.

      Not running for my health, but in spite of it.


      delicate flower

         What do people recommend to keep in shape during the winter months?

         

        You'll find most folks around here run outside year round and just layer up in the winter.  Really, it's only cold for the first few minutes.  I live in Connecticut.  Winter means a headlamp with reflective gear, and cold weather running clothes.  Slick, snowy roads are only an issue right after a storm.  The rest of the time they are clear enough.  If conditions are lousy, I'll take to the treadmill.

         

        I tore my ACL skiing in 2013.  Good times.    

        <3

        kilkee


        runktrun

           

           I tore my ACL skiing in 2013.  Good times.    

           

          Why I don't ski.

           

          (Never mind the other parts I've torn running...)

          Not running for my health, but in spite of it.

          Buzzie


          Bacon Party!

            I run outdoors year-round in Michigan except when footing is treacherous, then I take to the treadmill.

             

            If by trails, you mean hiking/mountain biking trails thru woods, they're generally runnable in the snow (although you may need to modify your definition of "run").

            If, instead, you mean multi-use pathways, they're an ankle-busting PITA if not plowed but still in use by others.

             

            I've been known to run loops in parking lots or up & down the one clear section of a secondary road.

             

            For long runs, you may be able to find a park within a reasonable drive that plows its pathways. In southeast Michigan, the Metro Parks do a good job of this; Stoney Creek's 6-mile loop around the lake is almost always a good option.

             

            As for the dark ... I prefer running in the dark, but also struggle on winter mornings to finish before traffic (inattentive drivers on snow-narrowed dark roads) picks up beyond my comfort level (i.e, 6:00am). So, I do modify my run times in the winter, doing more mid-day runs.

            Liz

            pace sera, sera

              I've been living and running in Northern Wisconsin since 2003, and have run every winter since then.  I dress for the weather and carry a 150 lumen flashlight at night. My avatar photo is after an 11.5 mile run at -10 deg F.  I had better icicles after a similar run at -20 deg F, but could not find the camera before they melted.

               

              I run on roads, sidewalks, and snowmobile trails.  I used to deal with glare ice by running very carefully, but yesterday I broke down and bought a pair of Yaktrax.  Those things are terrific.  I can run fast downhill with them on.

               

              I occasionally go for a walk in the woods with my snowshoes.  I also have a pair of cross country skis I am still learning to use.

              paulski66


              miscreant

                 

                You'll find most folks around here run outside year round and just layer up in the winter.  Really, it's only cold for the first few minutes.  I live in Connecticut.  Winter means a headlamp with reflective gear, and cold weather running clothes.  Slick, snowy roads are only an issue right after a storm.  The rest of the time they are clear enough.  If conditions are lousy, I'll take to the treadmill.

                 

                I tore my ACL skiing in 2013.  Good times.    

                 

                This. Exactly.

                 

                 

                I'm happy, hope you're happy too...

                LRB


                  I started running this summer to help recover from a broken leg (Ski Mishap) and I really fell in love with it.  I was doing 40 miles per week (max run was 7 miles).

                   

                  Key words. There is a progression in running where you adapt to the challenges that winter presents over a period of time. How long that takes is different for everyone. The biggest challenge usually is snow, and depending on how much you're talking sidewalks can be impractical and oftentimes treacherous. Running in the street is an option for most but not for me. I'm just not doing that.

                   

                  My first winter saw my runs relegated to the weekend, where I drove a million miles to the park to run on plowed paths. I alternated weights and the elliptical during the week and never really considered the treadmill as an option. It sounds silly but at the time, I didn't view it the same as running outside.  It wasn't until my third year of running that I really started running on the thing consistently and even then I pissed and moaned about it constantly. I hated it with every fiber in my being and it took another year before I really embraced it.

                   

                  Temperature can also be a problem and I have run in my share of single digit temps and sub zero wind chills over the years which is a whole 'nother level of stupid. These days, I generally will run in anything until the temps get to about the mid teens or the wind chill drops to single digits. At that point it just gets to be ridiculous, and I'll usually head to the treadmill instead.

                   

                  Running in the dark was the last hurdle I jumped and I hate it as much as I hated the treadmill if that even makes any sense. First off it's depressing as hell. Secondly, it's depressing as hell. It makes it seem as if it's colder than it really is and I have to really geek myself up to step out into the freezing cold at the ass crack of dawn to do it. Most days I do, but there are days when I just don't have it in me.

                   

                  Anyway, you'll eventually figure it all out. It usually comes down to how bad you want to run, versus what level of stupid you are willing to go to in order to do it.

                  Cyberic


                    I run year 'round, and am lucky enough to have access to an indoor track. It's ackward (kinda square, and 190 metres long) but it keeps me off the treadmill. The track is near my work place, but on the weekends and during vacation, I insist on running outside, whatever the temperature.

                    All the advice already given in this thread is good advice. I will only add my own two cents about the worse time to run outside, for me, and that is when the footing is treacherous, or when I can't see well where I put my feet. The cold won't hurt me, but a bad fall will. So I have YakTrax, and also have a pair of old shoes with screws underneath. Both have pros and cons, you need to experiment.

                    But running on the treadmill is what many people do: it is not dangerous, not cold; a great choice, obviously. I just find it boring, and I get too hot on it because I do not get the wind from movement.

                    BeeRunB


                      Treadmill & podcasts.

                        no matter how many layers i put on, going out for a run when the temp is 0 F, it is still no fun

                        https://www.instagram.com/tfilarski/

                          20 below this morning with a light breeze and I had just the right number of layers.  Unzipped the top layer halfway running downwind, zipped it back up running into the wind, and worked up a good sweat.

                           

                          When I run at night, I carry a good 150 lumen flashlight.  I originally used a puny little weak flashlight, but upgraded after coming within a few inches of kicking a live skunk one night.

                          LedLincoln


                          not bad for mile 25

                            Three shirts and a jacket, long johns and tights, balaclava and mittens, and I was comfy this morning at 0F.

                              Inova STS headband flashlight-great product