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Mmmm Bop
Mark I just picked up the kids some Maccas. About 30 cars in queue but moved quickly. Enjoyable Zoom meeting yesterday nice to meet Cal and Darkwave and my mates from sub 1.30. Cal slightly better looking than Mikkey but looked very tired falling asleep while we talked
Mark I just picked up the kids some Maccas. About 30 cars in queue but moved quickly.
Enjoyable Zoom meeting yesterday nice to meet Cal and Darkwave and my mates from sub 1.30. Cal slightly better looking than Mikkey but looked very tired falling asleep while we talked
He probably lost interest when JMac failed to show up
5k - 17:53 (4/19) 10k - 37:53 (11/18) Half - 1:23:18 (4/19) Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)
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Neil
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“Some people will tell you that slow is good – but I'm here to tell you that fast is better. I've always believed this, in spite of the trouble it's caused me. - Hunter S. Thompson
Nah... I met JMac last December at CIM finish - he is alright, seeing him in Zoom would bring no novelty. Believe it or not, I actually wanted to meet / see Piwi and you, but I learned one more time that New Zealand people such a great folks and Brits are just as expected - ignorant bas****s
paces PRs - 5K - 5:48 / 10K - 6:05 / HM - 6:14 / FM - 6:26 per mile
There were 15 cars in the queue at the Macca’s I drove past on the way to the track this morning at 6am. I mean, I like McDonalds but not enough to sit in a queue at 6am waiting for it.
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF
Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr
"CONSISTENCY IS KING"
Problem Child
Happy Birthday. Due to COVID-19 concerns I'll send you a meme instead of a card.
- Today is my birthday, entering a new age group at 55. One more disappointment of lack of racing; I was looking forward to some improved placements.
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
VDOT 53.37
5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22
My week was OK. A bit lighter volume-wise, the 5K TT on Thursday was a bit of a bust, otherwise just churning out the miles. In hindsight doing workouts on the 2 days before the TT, plus still recovering from the 36km long run last weekend, probably didn't set me up that well for the TT. A bunch of races from April have now been officially rescheduled for September. Unfortunately this means that NZ Half Marathon Champs (rescheduled Waterfront HM) are now the weekend before NZ Marathon Champs (rescheduled Rotorua Marathon). I'm still leaning towards doing the Rotorua Marathon as a marathon was always the goal this year.
Hi, new to this...
I am currently training for the Wellington marathon on 5th July. If it goes ahead (unlikely due to virus) it will be my first.
After some advice please.
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Marky - you will have plenty of opportunities for time trials, just do it right next time . Re choosing an event - I would chose what I think I am most prepared for, though it's hard to estimate I guess until you try. But yeah, you only ran one marathon - it's a shame .
Magrawlas - welcome! Yes, I would just continue regular training, with an average mileage and one-two workouts per week. Last 4-5 weeks before marathon I would just repeat weeks from your plan. That would be the safest - just don't forget to taper. Cannot tell you anything on your marathon pace as looks like you are not sure yourself - but, your workouts and the latest races are the ones that should give you some idea. If your races are very old, do a Time Trial - 10K trial would give you a rough idea. Re hydration and gels - usual recommendation - every 30-45 minutes you take a gel (I usually do it every 5 miles) and you take water/sports drink at every aid station (which is usually every 2-3 miles). I do not stop to drink - just grab a cup and drink it while I run.
My week was not bad. Tried some run at an elevated HR (150bpm) on Tuesday - hard to make anything out of it, but it was nice to run at something faster than 9 mpm. Finally felt a glimpse of a runner I have been in 2014-2016 - PM's run on Friday and both runs on Saturday were at a recovery HR and it was absolutely effortless and at a decent pace - oh, long forgotten runner's high :
Mon - off
Tue - am - 13.13 @7:39 (10 @7:24 @150pm) pm - 8.08 @8:50
Wed - am - 13.13 @8:57 pm - 8.08 @9:05
Thu - am - 13.13 @8:59
Fri - am - 13.13 @8:03 (10 @harder effort, HR stuck) pm - 8.07 @8:31
Sat - am - 13.13 @8:31 pm - 8.08 @8:21
Sun - am - 13.13 @8:57
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Total: 111.1 miles
Mother of Cats
Marky Mark - you could always make the call (half-marathon versus marathon) when you got up close and had some idea what the weather might be. For you, with your speed surplus, I keep thinking half and full marathon training wouldn't look that much different.
Magrawlas - another kiwi???? (joke) I think what to do if your race is delayed hinges on how long it is delayed. If I completed a marathon cycle, and then had the race postponed a few months, with no other option in the next week or two, I would shut things down, take an easy week to mark the end of a completed cycle, and then start a new cycle. One cannot extend a training cycle indefinitely.
Calbears - the fact that you ran 8.07 miles on Friday evening is driving me insane - it wrecks an otherwise perfectly symmetrical week - like a tile pattern.....
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My week:
65 miles, 10 miles of walkingM: Upperbody weights, core, and 5 mile walkT: 14 miles, including 2 short hill repeats and 8 minutes at tempo effort on the treadmill before it shut down. Then moved outside for 4 more hill repeats. Followed with leg strengthwork. W: 8 miles easy on treadmill (9:04), live streaming yoga, and 4.5 miles easy on treadmill (8:54).Th: Upper body weights/core and 5 mile walk.F: 12.5 miles on the treadmill, including a "hill workout" of 8 sets of:2:00 strong effort at 3.0 incline/ 1:30 easy effort at 0.5 incline/0:30 fast effort at 0.5/1:00 easy effort at 0.5 incline.Followed with leg strengthwork.Sa: 10.5 miles very easy outside (9:02) plus drills and strides, live streaming yoga, and upper body weights/core.Su: 15.5 miles including 14 progressive, split as the first 4 miles averaging 8:43 pace, the next 4 averaging 7:36, the next 6 averaging 6:43, and then a 1.5 mile cooldown. Followed with some leg strengthwork and live streaming yoga.
I'm getting really spoiled with the convenience of these streaming yoga classes - no need to get to the studio early, find a spot, etc. And....since it's a national yoga studio that is streaming classes from all of the locations in all of the time zones, there's basically a live yoga class starting every 15 minutes, starting at 6 am my time and going until 11 pm...
Best part is, I can do yoga in split shorts now....
Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.
And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.
Strava always finds a way to destroy beautiful things - yeah, think about it - 13.13, 8:08 and 111.1. Why in the world they decided to ruin the perfectness???
Su: 15.5 miles including 14 progressive, split as the first 4 miles averaging 8:43 pace, the next 4 averaging 7:36, the next 6 averaging 6:43, and then a 1.5 mile cooldown.
At this point I would inevitably be thinking about sub 2:55
Re kiwis - agree - I have never seen so many of that kind in one place Until this year I only knew Piwi Kiwi, now there are like dozens of representatives - I wonder why RWOL was not that attractive to them as runahead is?
Whelp, that was the goal, before a) I got hit by a truck (November), and then b) threw out my SI joint (February), and then c) ended up in the middle of a pandemic (now). Hopefully the world will calm down before I get too old to run fast.
Any Kiwis care to chime in? I am curious as to the surge...
Well, half of us were on here already so I guess search engine optimisation is trying to get the other half on here too.
Magrawlas - welcome!! Quite a few kiwis over on the sub-1:30 half marathon thread (including one who lives in Wellington) but I'm the only regular on this thread.
Anyway, I'd say Wellington is unlikely but it is still an outside chance. We'd need to be at Level 1 for larger races to happen, and I think realistically that's probably at least 5-6 weeks away - maybe longer. However I think the odds on Wellington being deferred until late July or early August are probably pretty good as there's not much on the calendar then (September is really busy).
Others will be able to help more in terms of adjusting your training programme... in terms of some of your other questions:
3 months til Masters
Mark Jealous of the prospect of a marathon. It is looking less and less likely that i'll get to race this year.
Magrawlas- I agree with Mark.
DW-I'm with you on all the drills. I since i have been working from home, I have really been spending 30-45 min a day doing drills to fix my issues. Old injuries and constant fight stop them from coming back.
Missed postling last week. here are my last 2 weeks. both about 86.5 miles plus or minus a few tenths.
2023 Goals
Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18
10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)
5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)
Sub 1:16 Half Marathon City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)
Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)
2024 Goals
Sub 2:37 Marathon
Sub 1:15 Half
Sub 34 10k
Sub 16 5k
Forgot about some bragging point - first time since I started running seriously in 2011 I had 2 months in a row above 400 miles - 431 in March and 438 miles in April. It's kind of weird - I thought actually I had it, but no - I had bigger months - 464 in 2015, 494 and 515 in 2016, but never had two consecutive months in a row above 400. Looking forward to make it 3 in a row .