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How to find my pace time (Read 1926 times)

Calijem08


    I just have a general question. I have not really been a long distance runner, but am gearing up to run my first marathon in August and am really excited about it. I am now up to 4 miles and am finding it pretty easy to run. My question is, when do I find my pace time and how do I find it, and how do I keep it throughout the whole 26.2 miles? Right now my mile is 10:38. Thanks for any input anyone can give me....
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          Wow, why are you going to do a marathon that soon? That seems pretty eager. I guess if you want to find your pace, just see what the most comfortable pace is for you and try to maintain that. Like you will find elsewhere on this site, don't just do a few long runs a week. Start slow and get a lot of short runs in. That will build a base. There are also a lot of good Marathon training schedules online you might want to check out. Good luck!!

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            it is such a tough question to answer. I am not going to tell you that you cannot do it but others will. Look within their criticism for the information. 26.2 is a long way. To put it in perspective... you have to over come the following.. running 1 hour running 1.5 hours running 2 hours running 2.5 running 3 hours running 3.5 hours running 4 hours each of those hurdles requires time for your body to adjust to. To strengthen to. For you to mentally adjust to. In other words, you will have to attain each of those levels. Each will be a strech when you reach it then it will take time to own it. For your body to withstand it. When you finish 4 miles do you feel like you could do it again? By the time you own running for 2 hours then running 4 miles will seam like a long warm up. At some point running 6 miles is a short run. Most folks say you shouldn't attempt a marathon until: * You have been running consistently for a year. *You have a base weekly milage of x where x depends on who you talk to but somewhere in the 30-40 miles of base before you begin your training for the marathon seams to be about the minumum. Most training programs are somewhere around 16-30 weeks. It is a strech to think your body will be able to go from not running to running for 5 hours and so people will look at that and say I wouldn't do that and so you shouldn't. I say if you want to do it know what your are doing and then go for it! Alright so how to pick your pace... run slow now. Keep running slow. Build miles. In the late spring run a 10k, 15k, or a half marathon. That will give you an idea of pace or at least a ball park. Getting a pace and keeping it is just a matter of practice and building endurance. Being your mile time is where it is I would suspect that you are trying to finish just to finish not to "RACE" if that is the case don't worry about how fast you run... just run and enjoy it... go slow so you can talk with someone comfortably... then plan on going a bit slower yet when you run the marathon... I'm no expert by any means I thought I would share my 2 cents... good luck and I wish you the best!


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              Jsobo said it perfectly. Focus on a 10k or half first. You can't find your marathon pace because you are still base building. You shouldn't run a marathon until you build your base. Then you have a sense of your genetics and pacing. You are in a state of continuous improvement. Just run comfortable in all your runs. Running some 5K s is a good guage to help you determine your improvements.

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                Some. people. are. really. negative. and. bitchy. Just ignore them and run your own way. I think jsobos advice is sound.

                 

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                  Some. people. are. really. negative. and. bitchy. Just ignore them and run your own way. I think jsobos advice is sound.
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                    There are running calculators out there that will tell you, based on other race distances, what your predicted finish times will be for longer distances. They will also tell you that the closer your races are to the actual distance you're asking them to project, the more accurate your results will be. In other words, if you ask for a projected finish time for the 26.2 right now, it will give you one, and you can calculate your pace times from there. However, you should understand that your projected finish will get more accurate as you run longer distances and input your finish times for those distances. Even then, they're just predictions--they can't account for weather, wind, bad runs . . . The best thing to do is to just feel it out. Based on my 10k race and other long runs in early training before my half, I thought that my pace for that race (my longest distance so far) should be about 10mm. But as my training progressed, I was surprised to discover that I could be comfortably and consistently faster than that. But hey, that's the point of training. As I dream about my first marathon (which I won't do for at least another year), I will have to see how that pace translates as I get past mile 14--my longest training run so far. Congratulations on having such an ambitious goal!

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                      Some. people. are. really. negative. and. bitchy. Just ignore them and run your own way. I think jsobos advice is sound.
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                        I just have a general question. I have not really been a long distance runner, but am gearing up to run my first marathon in August and am really excited about it. I am now up to 4 miles and am finding it pretty easy to run. My question is, when do I find my pace time and how do I find it, and how do I keep it throughout the whole 26.2 miles? Right now my mile is 10:38. Thanks for any input anyone can give me....
                        Calijem08, I am fairly new to running, so take this with a grain of salt. You might want to consider a heart rate monitor. I own one and have been using it in my running in a very simplistic way: For my speed workouts I try to hit 80-90% of my max HR (220-age) and stay there. For my tempo runs I try to hit 70% and stay there and for my long runs (depending how long), I try to get to about 60% and stay there. Then, whatever your pace is, your pace is. Big grin I'd welcome any criticism of this approach.

                        "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus

                          You are excited about being able to run four miles and are planning a marathon in August of this year? Seriously, you don't have enough base to run a marathon or to calculate a realistic pace for running a marathon. Spend this year building your base and getting some experience in shorter races. Most beginners marathon training programs recommend that you be comfortable running 25 mile weeks before starting to train. My 21 year old niece approached me last December for advice on running the LA marathon on March 2nd. I recommended to her the same thing that I am recommending to you. Spend this year building a base and run the marathon next year. She called me two days after the LA marathon looking for advice about what to do about her knee which was so sore that she could hardly walk. It seems she had some IT band issues at mile three and stubbornly pushed through the pain to finish the race. She now has a serious case of ITBS and I would suspect that by the time she gets healed, running won't be high on her list of priorities. Tom


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                            Calijem08, If I've read your question correctly, it sounds like you're asking something along the lines of "...how do I figure out my planned marathon pace..". The answer to this most often comes from learning and knowing your pace over various distances -- both in training runs and in some races. As you add distance to your training runs, you'll start to learn your pace for 5, 10 miles and longer. Some folks do this with race times, others just keep good track (aka 'logs') and note their performance, then there are the ocd leaning folks...we wont go there, but you're surrounded by them here. Wink There is a progression from setting out to run the distance (ie, "today I am going to run 10 miles at whatever time it takes me to go 10 miles.."), to how your run the distance ("now that I know I can run 10 miles nonstop, today I am going to run 10 miles at a medium hard pace"), to setting goals ("today I am going to run the 10 miles at MM:SS minutes per mile average"). At the end of some version of this progression of steps, you know what pace you're capable of and can start planning on pace goals. You'll get lots of advise here about your marathon plan, so hope you've got some good heat-resistant underwear, but remember that there are those that methodically plan and some just do it -- to each his own. There's pros and cons for each approach.

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                              Calijem08, I am fairly new to running, so take this with a grain of salt. You might want to consider a heart rate monitor. I own one and have been using it in my running in a very simplistic way: For my speed workouts I try to hit 80-90% of my max HR (220-age) and stay there. For my tempo runs I try to hit 70% and stay there and for my long runs (depending how long), I try to get to about 60% and stay there. Then, whatever your pace is, your pace is. Big grin I'd welcome any criticism of this approach.
                              Not a criticism--just some hopefully useful info from an old guy. The "Magic" formula of 220- age works for about 1/3 of the population. I suggest you run gently for several miles--find a good uphill--run it it hard--jog back down then run up it as hard as you can--if you see white spots and gag when you finish--note your heart rate. That will be pretty close to YOUR max. If one doesn't know their own max, the formula is for many useless. At 64, my max via the formula would be a 156. At the end of an all out 5K I get up around 198-200. IF I based my max on the formula--you see the shortfall. Test it and tell us what you come up with. Nick
                                I suggest you run gently for several miles--find a good uphill--run it it hard--jog back down then run up it as hard as you can--if you see white spots and gag when you finish--note your heart rate.
                                Sounds fun Nick! I think mine would be 0, and this would be the EKG from the test Wink /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\___________________________

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