Sub 1:30 Half Marathon 2021 Edition (Read 448 times)

Running Problem


Problem Child

    Can this Kiwi Point Adjustment Chart be posted at the front of this thread? I'm pretty sure a 120 was a "nothing to complain about" and a 150 was something like "add 5 seconds."

    Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

    VDOT 53.37 

    5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22

    JMac11


    RIP Milkman

      That's a good idea, Keen - can you add this to the front page for reference? But 150 is definitely not 5 seconds, it's almost 5%. I guess if you're running 90 second repeats it's only 5 seconds 

       

      Of course, this is just a guide, but I've found it to be very beneficial. If you're doing repeats (ie cooling down between reps for even a bit), cut these in half. These are meant for continuous runs, e.g. races or long tempo runs. It also can vary a lot, including how sunny it is, whether there is a breeze to cool you down, etc. But it's a good table to look at and realize you can't just slow down a few seconds when it's 75 degrees and 100% humidity.

       

      100 or less:   no pace adjustment

      101 to 110:   0% to 0.5% pace adjustment

      111 to 120:   0.5% to 1.0% pace adjustment

      121 to 130:   1.0% to 2.0% pace adjustment

      131 to 140:   2.0% to 3.0% pace adjustment

      141 to 150:   3.0% to 4.5% pace adjustment

      151 to 160:   4.5% to 6.0% pace adjustment

      161 to 170:   6.0% to 8.0% pace adjustment

      171 to 180:   8.0% to 10.0% pace adjustment

      Above 180:   hard running not recommended

      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

       

       

      JMac11


      RIP Milkman

        On a separate note, if you Kiwis want real heat, go look at the forecast for the Olympic Trials this Sunday in America. It's going to be an absolutely perfect 112 degrees, or 44C . Looks like they're going to hit around 170 TDP, which I have never experienced in my life. The highest I've ever hit is 160, and that I couldn't even finish an easy run of 11 miles in.

        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

         

         

        Running Problem


        Problem Child

          I get a 129-150 tomorrow night. 90-96F and 47 dew points. At 6 pm. Drops down 78F and 51 overnight. thankfully I'm not running marathon pace or faster.

           

          112 degrees for race day. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..........what? Like..."due to covid 19 Global Warming now matters and we're not going to make y'all suffer in this nonsense." Maybe it's going to be hot in Tokyo this summer.

           

          http://www.hydrapouch.com/store/index.php/standard-hydrapouches/standard-hydrapouch-ocean.html

          time change.

           

          EDIT

          JMac VDOT 56 says 80 seconds for a 400R. VDOT 53 says 90 seconds for a 400I workout. I'm apparently a 51 based off my last 5k. Don't give me the JMAC SACK when I start posting workouts for CIM soon.

          Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

          VDOT 53.37 

          5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22

          JamesD


          JamesD

            My week is done, because we’re moving our son to his university tomorrow.  (DW will cry.)  My leg troubles keep bouncing around but weren’t too bad, and I got in a decent week.  This week it was right Achilles soreness during an off day and lower right hamstring soreness the next day, but since I'm not trying to go too fast, nothing got worse and everything except the recurring upper hamstring/glute soreness went away.  For unknown reasons, this week’s tempo run was 10-15 sec/mile slower than expected, but my lungs weren’t tired, so I went half a mile longer than planned.

             

            Sun - 9.3 miles recovery (1:39)  on treadmill

            Mon - 9.4 in park @ 8:36, TDP 148

            Tues - off

            Weds - 8.1 miles in park including 4.6 @ ~7:08/mile, not sure why so slow

            Thurs - 9.3 recovery (1:39) on treadmill

            Fri - 9.7 slow progression (1:39) on treadmill b/c car battery died & couldn’t get to park

            Sat - off taking son to university (in DW’s car, as mine is older than son)

             

            Total - 45.9 miles

            YTD average - 48.1 mpw 

            Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

            '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

            SteveChCh


            Hot Weather Complainer

              CK - Sounds like the right call, that’s brutal.

               

              JMac - That’s just an early spring forecast for Auckland

              5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

               

              2024 Races:

              Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

              Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

              Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

              Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

              flavio80


              Intl. correspondent

                Steve - one hand I don't want to see you suffer through 42km, on the other hand the race report is gonna be glorious 😁

                Keen - in that weather there's no way to run fast. A few years back I used to run this cross country race once a month, it was 8k, 4 laps of 2k in a park.

                I'd run close to 30 minutes on better weather and close to 33 minutes on the warmer days.

                112 degrees is just insanity, though they are expecting horrible weather in the Olympic marathon, they were talking of moving it to the north of the island to have a couple degrees cooler weather.

                PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

                Tool to generate Strava weekly

                SteveChCh


                Hot Weather Complainer

                  Flavio, I’m going to give it a go. Nice and easy and if I feel I’m doing any damage towards the end I’ll take the loss.

                   

                  I’m going to take my phone in my flip belt so my partner can track me. So if you want to watch a very slow moving dot, here’s the link. I’m starting in about 20-30 mins.

                   

                  Edit:  Started a new session after warm up

                   

                  https://gar.mn/zkzxE7

                  5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                   

                  2024 Races:

                  Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

                  Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                  Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                  darkwave


                  Mother of Cats

                    Flavio, I’m going to give it a go. Nice and easy and if I feel I’m doing any damage towards the end I’ll take the loss.

                     

                    I’m going to take my phone in my flip belt so my partner can track me. So if you want to watch a very slow moving dot, here’s the link. I’m starting in about 20-30 mins.

                     

                    https://gar.mn/gzjQbQ

                     

                    Good luck!!!  Enjoy!

                    Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                     

                    And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                    darkwave


                    Mother of Cats

                      That's a good idea, Keen - can you add this to the front page for reference? But 150 is definitely not 5 seconds, it's almost 5%. I guess if you're running 90 second repeats it's only 5 seconds 

                       

                      Of course, this is just a guide, but I've found it to be very beneficial. If you're doing repeats (ie cooling down between reps for even a bit), cut these in half. These are meant for continuous runs, e.g. races or long tempo runs. It also can vary a lot, including how sunny it is, whether there is a breeze to cool you down, etc. But it's a good table to look at and realize you can't just slow down a few seconds when it's 75 degrees and 100% humidity.

                       

                      100 or less:   no pace adjustment

                      101 to 110:   0% to 0.5% pace adjustment

                      111 to 120:   0.5% to 1.0% pace adjustment

                      121 to 130:   1.0% to 2.0% pace adjustment

                      131 to 140:   2.0% to 3.0% pace adjustment

                      141 to 150:   3.0% to 4.5% pace adjustment

                      151 to 160:   4.5% to 6.0% pace adjustment

                      161 to 170:   6.0% to 8.0% pace adjustment

                      171 to 180:   8.0% to 10.0% pace adjustment

                      Above 180:   hard running not recommended

                       

                      Can we add a whining index to this?

                      Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                       

                      And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                      flavio80


                      Intl. correspondent

                        https://gar.mn/zkzxE7

                        That link says: tracking session has ended 😐

                         

                        Do you guys think Steve is watching the posts here during his run? 😂

                        PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                        Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

                        Tool to generate Strava weekly

                        JMac11


                        RIP Milkman

                           

                          Can we add a whining index to this?

                           

                          Yes. Your whining increase vs. baseline is equal to the following:

                           

                          Pace Adjustment x 3.5 x [If Kiwi = "yes", then 343,234; otherwise 1]

                           

                          ETA: Yeah thought tracking Steve would be super cool. Sad it's ended. Hopefully just a malfunction and not he gave up.

                          5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                           

                           

                          darkwave


                          Mother of Cats

                             

                            Yes. Your whining increase vs. baseline is equal to the following:

                             

                            Pace Adjustment x 3.5 x [If Kiwi = "yes", then 343,234; otherwise 1] 

                             

                            Genius.

                            Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                             

                            And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                            Marky_Mark_17


                              https://gar.mn/zkzxE7

                              That link says: tracking session has ended 😐

                               

                              Do you guys think Steve is watching the posts here during his run? 😂

                               

                              I hope it didn't just end with a short loop around the block!

                              3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                              10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                              * Net downhill course

                              Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                              Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              Running Problem


                              Problem Child

                                Strava shows a 1/4 mile run. Maybe he didn't reactivate his live stream, or it created a NEW link with his actual race.

                                Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

                                VDOT 53.37 

                                5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22