Sub 1:30 Half Marathon 2021 Edition (Read 445 times)

Running Problem


Problem Child

    I went to a gym with the 300 challenge. A popular workout when the movie came out. The owner stopped it when people went only for time and lost all form. It was crossfit before CrossFit had a branded name.

    Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

    VDOT 54.9

    5k19:35 | Marathon 2:56:07

    CommanderKeen


    Aspiring Hobby Jogger

      Say what you will about Flavio's upcoming reign, but I bet he makes the trains run on time.


      Marathon Scott is who I want to be when I grow up.


      Piwi - Definitely need to see you making a comeback next year.


      Future Supreme Leader - I'm doing better and better every day, thank you (not that it has ever been bad). Tracking HR for pace on my runs is a great example of this. At the same super-easy effort my paces are getting faster every day while my HR gets lower and lower - it's already back to the same levels .

       

      My little respiratory bug is actually covid. Only real symptom is a bit of fatigue, almost like I missed a few hours of sleep the night before (plus the standard "HR is higher than it should be because I'm running whilst sick").

      It turns out my kiddos got it while I was away for CIM, and DW and I got it on our way back. Grand total is 1 asymptomatic case (DD1), two slight coughs (DDs 2 &3), and DW had my fatigue and the younger girls' slight cough (she developed it before I did) and exactly zero fevers.

      5k: 18:05 8/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

       

      Upcoming Races:

       

      Brookhaven Run Classic - 9/17

      Wurst Race Half - 10/8

      Toyota Music Factory Half - 11/13

      CIM - 12/4

      Marky_Mark_17


        Keen - I found my HR was screwy for at least a month after my last marathon.  Partly that was probably because I was overtrained.  Fixed itself after I took that week off.

         

        Anyhow, bummer about the COVID but good to hear it's very mild.  That's almost the best outcome... get it mildly and then you don't have to worry about it for a while!

         

        Flavio - I'm not that surprised it's slower than you think.  Burpees take way longer than they should.  And they feel even longer than that!

        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

        * Net downhill course

        Last race: Southern Lakes HM, 7 May, 1:12:42 (May-22)

        Up next: Auckland 10km Road Champs, 21 August

        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

        JamesD


        JamesD

          Keen - Sorry to hear about your covid, but glad that it sounds quite mild & that you're doing better.  Since your whole family got it, is there any chance that you actually had it before you left for CIM and that it caused your trouble?

          Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

          2022 Goals: Get/stay healthy; run consistently; Half<1:30; PR or 80% age-grade at one distance

          CommanderKeen


          Aspiring Hobby Jogger

            James - I had a negative test on the Thursday before the race, so it's very doubtful. My parents watched the kids while we were gone, and my mom started showing symptoms after we got back and tested positive herself. So likely she got it at work (counselor at a school), gave it to the kids, who gave it to DW and I. Mom's doing just fine also, btw.

             

             

            ETA: What's everyone's favorite weather provider? My favorite app uses Darksky, but apple bought that and is killing it off for everyone else at the end of the year, so I'm shopping for a replacement.

            5k: 18:05 8/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

             

            Upcoming Races:

             

            Brookhaven Run Classic - 9/17

            Wurst Race Half - 10/8

            Toyota Music Factory Half - 11/13

            CIM - 12/4

              Keen sorry to hear of the covid. Hearing of people you know catching it and not having bad symptoms gives me alot of reassurance and makes it less scary.

              50+ PBs -  

              5k 18.21 Hagley Parkrun  July 21      82.27 % age grade

              10k TT 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.51 % age grade

              Half marathon  1.23.30 may 21 80.11 % age grade

              " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

              Somewhere in between is about right "      

               

              watsonc123


                Keen - sorry about Covid-19.  Are you vaccinated?  If so, which vaccine? If vaccinated, then it is probably much milder than if you were not. I also wonder whether you caught it before your marathon (after the Thursday test).

                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                 

                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                SteveChCh


                Hot Weather Complainer

                  Keen - pleased to hear Covid is treating you the same way it treats 99.9% of people.  Hope it doesn't impact your civil liberties too much while you recover.  It's possible it was around in your race which would make you the unluckiest person ever, although if it was before you even noticed anything it might not have been the issue.

                  Net Downhill PB Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2022 1:27:32, Flat Course PB Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                  Recent Races:   Southern Lakes Half Marathon 1:27:32 May 7, 2022, Motorway 10km 40:49 February 27, 2022, Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon 1:29:32  November 7, 2021

                  Race plan:  Melbourne Marathon October 2, 2022.  Queenstown Half Marathon November 19, 2022

                  JMac11


                  I spilled the milk

                    James - I had a negative test on the Thursday before the race, so it's very doubtful. My parents watched the kids while we were gone, and my mom started showing symptoms after we got back and tested positive herself. So likely she got it at work (counselor at a school), gave it to the kids, who gave it to DW and I. Mom's doing just fine also, btw.

                     

                     

                    ETA: What's everyone's favorite weather provider? My favorite app uses Darksky, but apple bought that and is killing it off for everyone else at the end of the year, so I'm shopping for a replacement.

                     

                    Keen - sorry to hear about COVID, but if it's mild and everyone gets through it, that's a great outcome.

                     

                    For weather app, I've tried them all. I still think Weather Underground is the best. IBM screwed up a bit when they bought it, but it's much better now.

                    5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                     

                    Next Race: Grete's Great Gallop 10K (8/27)

                    Marky_Mark_17


                      Reasonable week done and dusted.  Hoped to do a bit more, but copped a bit of a cold courtesy of my daughter on Friday.  Nothing major, just felt a bit bleh on the weekend so cut my long run a little short.  Thankfully, the humidity finally disappeared on Saturday after almost 3 weeks.  I'm sure it'll be back but it's crazy how 16C actually feels cold when it's only around 70% humidity.

                       

                      Weekly for period: From: 13/12/2021 To 19/12/2021

                      Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                      in m
                      13/12 That run where it sure would be great if someone could turn the dehumidifier on 5.10 8.20 00:37:05 07:16 04:31 64
                      14/12 That run where the struggle is real 7.62 12.26 00:50:51 06:40 04:09 82
                      15/12 That run with an argument over a dead hedgehog 9.35 15.04 00:59:42 06:23 03:58 98
                      16/12 That run where you can file that under “progression” 11.90 19.14 01:14:00 06:13 03:52 162
                      18/12 That run where 70% humidity never felt so good 7.47 12.01 00:44:39 05:59 03:43 127
                      19/12 That run with the remnants of a cold 14.06 22.63 01:39:43 07:06 04:24 254

                      Total distance: 89.29km

                      3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                      10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                      * Net downhill course

                      Last race: Southern Lakes HM, 7 May, 1:12:42 (May-22)

                      Up next: Auckland 10km Road Champs, 21 August

                      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      SteveChCh


                      Hot Weather Complainer

                        Mark - nice week.  We had 2 months of rainfall on Wednesday and rain most of the week.  Crazy cold for December too so yesterday when the sun came out and it got to 20C I was finding it hot.  Looks like summer is resuming this week so I'll slowly get used to it and start ramping up the complaining to try and catch you up!

                         

                        My week was pretty solid, similar mileage to the peak of my half training but with workouts at a slower pace.  Definitely had to work yesterday, I guess not being used to the distance after 6 weeks of shorter long runs, and a little warmth.  My hamstring actually starting cramping towards the end which is very rare for me.  The shingles has improved, much less pain and irritation but enough to wake me up a couple of times a night.  Hopefully this is the week I get out of the spare room.

                         

                        Weekly for period: From: 13/12/2021 To 19/12/2021

                        Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                        in m
                        13/12 Warm up 0.28 0.46 00:02:42 09:39 05:52 0
                        13/12 70 mins easy pace 8.81 14.17 01:10:22 07:59 04:58 19
                        13/12 Strides 0.50 0.81 00:03:48 07:36 04:41 0
                        15/12 Warm up 0.29 0.47 00:02:46 09:32 05:53 0
                        15/12 16km incl. 3 x (2km @ 4:25-30/km, 2 mins recovery) 9.98 16.06 01:16:30 07:40 04:46 16
                        16/12 Recovery 5.54 8.91 00:48:09 08:41 05:24 23
                        17/12 Warm up 0.29 0.46 00:02:51 09:50 06:12 0
                        17/12 Easy 10km 6.27 10.09 00:50:26 08:03 05:00 13
                        17/12 Strides 0.76 1.22 00:05:59 07:52 04:54 0
                        18/12 Warm up 0.28 0.46 00:02:48 10:00 06:05 0
                        18/12 26km incl. 4 x (2km @ MP, 1km easy) 16.20 26.07 02:07:06 07:51 04:53 34
                        19/12 Recovery 4.12 6.64 00:37:28 09:06 05:39 10

                        Total distance: 85.81km

                        Net Downhill PB Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2022 1:27:32, Flat Course PB Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                        Recent Races:   Southern Lakes Half Marathon 1:27:32 May 7, 2022, Motorway 10km 40:49 February 27, 2022, Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon 1:29:32  November 7, 2021

                        Race plan:  Melbourne Marathon October 2, 2022.  Queenstown Half Marathon November 19, 2022

                        watsonc123


                          Keen - it looks like vomiting with Covid-19 happens sometimes.  Given how bad you did at CIM, it must be a possibility?  Given you averaged 85-90 miles per week in the build up, and your tune up race times, everything pointed to CIM in 2:55 to 3:05, and for you to then run ~4:08...

                           

                          Mark - nice week.  Humidity is hard.  December where I am has pretty much been a cycle of warm and humid, more humid, warm heavy rain, cooler heavy rain, mild, warm and humid, then repeat.  It looks to have finally stopped, as the last two days have been warm, moderately windy and low-medium humidity.

                           

                          My week was low - Monday life got in the way.

                           

                          I traveled to Christchurch on Tuesday for a Wednesday funeral, I got a run on Tuesday in very nice conditions (15 C, light winds, low humidity).  No run Wednesday due to funeral, plus the heavy rain had followed me from up north (it was seriously heavy for Christchurch).  No run Thursday as work was busy plus my return trip.

                           

                          Friday was our clubs xmas rogaine, with the prize giving straight after (a few months later than normal due to Covid restrictions previously).

                           

                          Saturday I unexpectedly got time for a workout as my daughters cricket team capitulated in their Twenty20 run chase so the game finished about 50 minutes early.  I did a workout that was too hard for me, the aim was 200m @MP, 400m @HMP, 600m @10km, 800m @5k, 1000m @mile, 800m @5k,  600m @10km, 400m @HMP, 200m @MP with 200m easy in between.  I did all the reps, but all the 600m plus were slow, probably due to fitness, it being moderately warm, and most of the reps being into the wind.

                           

                          I did one strength session (Saturday morning).  I neglected them a little in my Nov half build up, with just one session per week.  I'm going to make sure I do two per week going forward.

                           

                          Weekly for period: From: 13/12/2021 To 19/12/2021

                          Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                          in m
                          14/12 Evening Run 4.54 7.31 00:40:30 08:55 05:32 6
                          17/12 Trentham Harriers Rogainne 5.10 8.20 00:49:27 09:42 06:02 27
                          18/12 Afternoon Run Ladder 200-400-600-800-1000-800-600-400-200 (200 easy between) 7.74 12.45 00:57:40 07:27 04:38 27
                          19/12 Morning Run 14.77 23.77 01:59:22 08:05 05:01 76

                          Total distance: 51.74km

                          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                           

                          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                          SteveChCh


                          Hot Weather Complainer

                            watson - That's a pretty brutal workout!  Apologies, I forgot to pass on my condolences last week.  I hope the trip down went as well as it could have.

                            Net Downhill PB Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2022 1:27:32, Flat Course PB Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                            Recent Races:   Southern Lakes Half Marathon 1:27:32 May 7, 2022, Motorway 10km 40:49 February 27, 2022, Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon 1:29:32  November 7, 2021

                            Race plan:  Melbourne Marathon October 2, 2022.  Queenstown Half Marathon November 19, 2022

                            watsonc123


                              Steve - yes, too brutal for me.  Still a hard workout even if too slow.  Thanks for the condolences.

                              PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                               

                              40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                              Running Problem


                              Problem Child

                                Watson BRUTAL workout. I'm not sure I could get through the 5k portion the first time. MY 5k and 10k PRs are 2 seconds apart. Technically my half marathon PR is a 6:55, but I just ran back to back 1:29 half marathons. My PRs are obviously really weird, and I'd have 2 paces for the entire workout. 6:40-45 and 6:15-18. Maybe I should give it a  go.

                                Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

                                VDOT 54.9

                                5k19:35 | Marathon 2:56:07