Sub 1:30 Half Marathon 2021 Edition (Read 251 times)

    Mark yes definitely he is jealous im sure.

    Did you win a prize ?

     

    Flavio your Kiwi humor game is big 

     

    I weighed the Next % at 7oz. My Takumi Sens are 6.4oz and look like baby shoes beside the Nike. Polar opposites  with the Takumi Sens old school flats with minimal cushioning.

    Couldn't resist a quick test trial down my drive and back in the dark. They feel amazing.

    50+ PBs -  

    5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

    10k 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.6 % age grade

    " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

    Somewhere in between is about right "      

     


    Elite Jogger

      Piwi - Good luck!  If next% are cheater shoes then so are Saucony Pro, Carbon X and others!

       

      Marky - Congrats on the win! 👍

       

      Flavio - Unfortunately I’m racing the week before, otherwise I’d have been tempted to join you and Mick!

      5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

      Marky_Mark_17


        Mark yes definitely he is jealous im sure.

        Did you win a prize ?

         

         

        $250 and a pair of shoes!

         

        Watson - the 1:12 was in Dunedin.  It was a loop course with a punisher of a hill in the second km and another one a bit later on too.  I reckon probably equivalent to high 1:11's on the flat.

        5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

        HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

        Last race: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, 1:09:41 (1st place)

        Up next: Debut XC season (at age 40)

        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

          Nice Job Mark, PB or not amazing effort and time, congratulations on the win too.

          PR's

          1m  5:38 (2018)

          5k    19:59 (2019)

          HM  1:33:56 (2018)

          FM  3:23:07 (2018)

            Mark: Congratulations on the amazing time and win! Sub 1.10 is hard to even comprehend for me. I hope you'll race a 10,000 on the track soon, you should be able to go under 32 min.

             

            Piwi: I just got the Next% in the same color as you did. They feel great just walking around. I agree with Mark: they are legal so no need to feel bad about wearing them.

            2:52:16 (2018)

            JMac11


            Taper Czar

              Mark - congrats on a great run! I think you know where I stand on this. You can consider whatever you want, but a half marathon that measures almost a tenth of mile short and is 700+ feet straight downhill (it's not like it had up hills to combat it) is not even close to a legit PB. That's more like a 1:12 on a legit course. I'd be even more wary of counting it given you broke the magical 1:10 number. It also looks like almost everyone measured right around that 13.04 to 13.05 mark, which should be about 13.15 or so on a legit certified half marathon course.

               

              But again, it's your personal number, so count whatever you want!

              5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

               

              Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

              JMac11


              Taper Czar

                Zebano - I have been battling some weird heel issue now for over 7 months. Some days it's better, some it's worse. Eccentric heel drops seem to be the key. What else have you been doing? Also, have you looked into the Strasburg sock? Think it's meant more for PF but can help with generic heel pain. It's a bit hard to get used to the first few nights but then it's okay.

                 

                Piwi - that's absurd on the shoes. It's just old timers who are upset with new technology. I think there was legit concern a few years ago, but now that they've been approved by racing bodies, I don't know how anyone can complain. Wear them and be proud of what you run.

                5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                 

                Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                  Ok thanks guys im heading out shortly and you've made me feel better !

                  Its calm and cool out.

                   

                  Nice prize Mark. I checked results and there was a good pack of fast guys that you beat.

                  50+ PBs -  

                  5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                  10k 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.6 % age grade

                  " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                  JamesD


                  JamesD

                    Ran my first (very short) tempo in seven months on Monday.  Glutes & hamstrings have been a bit sore & heavy since then, but they don’t feel injured.  Groin still occasionally sore.  Perhaps as a carryover from the tempo, my other park runs were 5-10 sec/mile faster than usual.

                     

                    Sun - off

                    Mon - 7.2 miles in park including 1.5 @ 6:48

                    Tues - 9.1-11 easy (1:39) on treadmill

                    Weds - 9.4 in park @ 8:30

                    Thurs - off

                    Fri - 14 in park @ 8:28

                    Sat - 9.1-11 easy (1:40) on treadmill

                     

                    Total - 48.8-52.6 miles worth of time/effort, about 7 hours 40 minutes

                    YTD average - probably 47-53 mpw



                    Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (April '20)

                    2021 Goals:  Stay healthy, 40+ mpw, Half<1:30; PR or 80% age-grade at some distance

                    JamesD


                    JamesD

                       

                      A few months ago, someone was saying that most of us seemed to have large dogs.  Now that I think I've figured out how to post a picture using JMac's site, here's our apartment-sized dog.

                      Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (April '20)

                      2021 Goals:  Stay healthy, 40+ mpw, Half<1:30; PR or 80% age-grade at some distance

                        Cute dog James but we Kiwis prefer sheep.

                         

                        Ok my time trial went amazing.

                        I'm 53 today and decided to do a 10k time trial in my new Next %. I got up at 5.30am and had a coffee and read your nice comments which gave me a good boost.

                        It was fine and cold outside around 6c 43F so I opted for a shirt and gloves.

                        I did a 3km warmup and could feel the amazing bounce in the shoes.

                        I got back home and prepared to start the time trial. I had a route which looped around the local neighborhoods and finished at my place. It was all flat and mostly asphalt or footpath. Been Sunday morning there was very little traffic so I was able to mostly stay on the roads.

                        My last 10k tt was in February in Christchurch where I ran 3.52/km so I was hoping for around 3.48/km with the new shoes and improved fitness.

                        Off I went in the dark so it was hard to tell pace but I went by feel and 3.40/km at 1k. Ok that's way too fast so dial it back and 2kms comes up at 3.47.

                        The 3rd km came in at 3.43 and I was thinking I've got to dial this back but each subsequent km came in around 3.45 and I was gaining confidence the further in I got.

                        With 1km to go I was able to kick and saw 3.30 pace on my watch. I heard the beep at 10k and thought ok keep going for 20m but realized I had gone 140m over by the time I stopped it.

                        37.43 for 10.14 kms or 37.21 for 10.04kms

                        The shoes were amazing and I think very beneficial for someone my age with ankles that don't bounce anymore 😳.

                        I'm going to have to put up the age grade time so Jmac has something to beat 

                        50+ PBs -  

                        5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                        10k 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.6 % age grade

                        " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                        Somewhere in between is about right "      

                         

                        Marky_Mark_17


                          Piwi - well done on the TT, excellent result from the training you've put in over the last few months and very promising for your HM.  Glad you enjoyed the shoes and looks like the weather was ideal too.

                           

                          James - another good week and hopefully you can build on that tempo effort.

                           

                          Me - thanks for the support all, PB or not, I ran as well as ever out there and thoroughly enjoyed it.  RR to come and hopefully some pics too when I get around to it.  A few things I learned though:

                           

                          • I definitely run better on lower mileage / higher intensity. Those 120km marathon weeks last year broke me, but 90-100km seems like my sweet spot.
                          • Nutrition makes a big difference to your training. Cutting out most alcohol and sometimes having a banana before key workouts had me hitting some great sessions.
                          • My pacing in this race was nuts. I mean, I’ve always run best when I’ve managed to lock a rhythm in, but 18 of the 21km were between 3:18 and 3:22. First and last were bit quicker (3:15 / 3:07), and there was one at 3:26 late in the race.

                           

                          Weekly for period: From: 26/04/2021 To 02/05/2021

                          Date Name Distance
                          in km
                          Duration Avg Pace
                          per km
                          Elevation Gain
                          in m
                          27/04/2021 That run where I still don’t want to jinx it by saying it’s race week 10.01 00:40:52 04:05 29
                          28/04/2021 That run where it’s finally starting to feel like autumn 10.21 00:40:41 03:59 42
                          30/04/2021 That run with the pre-race usual, but not in the usual place 7.01 00:30:00 04:17 64
                          01/05/2021 That run with the warmup in the icy paddock 1.01 00:05:02 04:59 8
                          01/05/2021 Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2021, 1st place, 1:09:41 (official) 21.00 01:09:38 03:19 31
                          02/05/2021 That run where the legs are trashed but the heart and soul are overflowing 6.08 00:29:39 04:53 43

                          Total distance: 55.33km

                          5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                          HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                          Last race: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, 1:09:41 (1st place)

                          Up next: Debut XC season (at age 40)

                          "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                          SteveChCh


                          Hot Weather Complainer

                            Wow, can I request that if I ever run a PB again that we hold off for 24 hours before explaining why it doesn't count? 

                             

                            Mark - Congratulations again, great time sealed with a win against what looks like a pretty good field.  I'm not surprised that it measured short, there are tons of blackspots for GPS around there.  Sounds like it was properly measured.  If anyone asks you what the fastest time you've done in a race is the answer is 1:09:41 (don't follow up with a "but..." - there's plenty of others who can do that).  It's also a lot faster than your previous best.

                             

                            piwi - Magnificent, so fast.  Based on your last km and the fact that you did this solo, you can probably go even faster.  What's your goal for the HM in light of this result?  I'm going to try and get some cheat shoes that work for me today - I think anyone telling you the time doesn't count in those shoes requires a 2 word reply.  Edit:  Got the Endorphin Pros and tried them over 200 metres or so at the shop.  Fit nicely and feel amazing.  Slightly heavier than the Vaporflies but WAY lighter than my training shoes (Asics Kayanos and GT2000).

                             

                            James - Another good week.  You've built a big foundation so you should cope well with slowly adding in some speed.  I love your dog!

                             

                            zebano - That sucks, hope it comes right soon.

                             

                            me - my biggest week of volume ever and I'm feeling fine with no obvious fatigue.  I know I can expect it to gradually build up but so far so good.  Yesterday was my longest run with a good chunk of quality and the first time I tried some gels.  I took one just before each increase in pace for 3 in total.  I used darkwave's pinning method for 2 and used the small inner pocket in my shorts for the third and it mostly worked well.  When I grabbed the first I noticed I'd lost one but my first hour is an out and back to my house to grab my Endura drink from the front door so I was lucky enough to find it 1km from my house.  I'd already formulated a new plan of when to take the second and final gel by then so it was nice to have the bonus third.  I used Endura cola flavour and they're not overly pleasant but not awful either.  My stomach handled them fine.  As for whether they had an impact...well I had a great run and finished feeling strong and comfortable with 4 of the last 6km at 10-15 seconds faster than target marathon pace so it seems they did.  I'm also in good shape and the conditions were perfect so I'd say it was a combination.  I felt a little flat in the first hour and at 16km I thought my legs were too tired so I expected a fade or crash but it never came.  I think a lot of it is an annoying inner voice that I eventually told to shut up - when I asked myself logically how I felt, the answer was fine.  My legs were obviously tired at the end but I didn't get close to emptying the well and recovered quite fast.

                             

                            Weekly for period: From: 26/04/2021 To 02/05/2021

                            Date Name Distance
                            in km
                            Duration Avg Pace
                            per km
                            Elevation Gain
                            in m
                            26/04/2021 Warm up 0.46 00:02:49 06:07 0
                            26/04/2021 70 mins easy pace 14.74 01:10:35 04:47 20
                            28/04/2021 Warm up 0.50 00:02:49 05:38 0
                            28/04/2021 Med-Long incl. 3 x (4km @ MP, 500 metres easy) 20.04 01:34:04 04:42 13
                            29/04/2021 Recovery 8.91 00:48:01 05:23 22
                            30/04/2021 Warm up 0.47 00:02:38 05:36 0
                            30/04/2021 Easy 8km 8.16 00:40:23 04:57 10
                            01/05/2021 Warm up 0.46 00:02:46 06:01 0
                            01/05/2021 Long progressive: 10km easy, 8km @ 4:50/km, 8km @ 4:40/km, 2km @ 4:30/km, 2km easy, 2km @ 4:30/km 32.13 02:33:46 04:47 37
                            02/05/2021 Recovery 6.45 00:36:04 05:36 6

                            Total distance: 92.31km

                            PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                            Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon (trail) November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

                            Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 11 (tempo/training run), Wellington Marathon June 27,  Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20

                              Mark congratulations once again you out ran all those other fast dudes and took the win. I hear you on the mileage. 80 to 90kms each week is great for me.

                               

                              My week

                               

                              Weekly for period: From: 26/04/2021 To 02/05/2021

                              Date Name Distance
                              in km
                              Duration Avg Pace
                              per km
                              Elevation Gain
                              in m
                              26/04/2021 Morning Run 12.07 01:11:25 05:55 315
                              27/04/2021 Morning Run 10.10 00:54:04 05:21 2
                              27/04/2021 Sub 120 bpm jog 8.02 00:46:18 05:46 5
                              28/04/2021 Lunch Run with 3k shakeout 10.01 00:46:12 04:37 6
                              29/04/2021 Morning Run 10.07 00:53:38 05:20 2
                              01/05/2021 Morning Run 6.02 00:32:34 05:25 6
                              02/05/2021 Morning Run 3.31 00:16:56 05:07 2
                              02/05/2021 53rd birthday time trial 10.14 00:37:43 03:43 2
                              02/05/2021 Morning Run 2.00 00:10:47 05:24 0

                              Total distance: 71.76km

                              50+ PBs -  

                              5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                              10k 37.21 may 2nd 2021 strava run 82.6 % age grade

                              " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               


                              Elite Jogger

                                Mark - congrats on a great run! I think you know where I stand on this. You can consider whatever you want, but a half marathon that measures almost a tenth of mile short and is 700+ feet straight downhill (it's not like it had up hills to combat it) is not even close to a legit PB. That's more like a 1:12 on a legit course. I'd be even more wary of counting it given you broke the magical 1:10 number. It also looks like almost everyone measured right around that 13.04 to 13.05 mark, which should be about 13.15 or so on a legit certified half marathon course.

                                 

                                But again, it's your personal number, so count whatever you want!

                                 

                                100% agree with that.

                                 

                                Piwi - Huge Congrats!  I was going to say sub 38 or bust yesterday, but thought it might put you under pressure.    Very pleased for you and looking forward to seeing what you can do at the half. 👍

                                5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)