A practical application of socialist ideas (Read 1168 times)

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    All I know is that the winkie is inflammatory in and of itself.

     

    MrH


       

      As the OP, I'm not sure what the post says about me. 

       

      Only you can make that assessment accurately.

       

      You classify yourself as Middle of the Road but apparently think our current POTUS believes in communist ideals. And yet many of those policies regarding healthcare and taxation used to be the Republican platform until very recently.

      The process is the goal.

      Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny.


      HobbyJogger & HobbyRacer

        I've heard it said that Obama instituted RomneyCare, so it cam be blamed on either or both -- and if Romney is elected, then the blame can continue without any change at all - is that right?

        It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

        DoppleBock


          You caught me in a good mood - Actually I was trying to channel my inner Skootr - Man is a loving humanitarian

           

           

          Speaking of "JC", DB's post blows mine out of the water because he wrote from a loving heart, whereas I wrote from an pissed-off one.  

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          DoppleBock


             Piss off Mr. Andy-Pants

             

            Even worse I had to watch it in the Detroit Airport drinking $7.50 - 20 ounce beers (x4) - I only was unlucky enough to see the 2nd half

             

            C'mon, that will only piss half the people off.  Perhaps less, as the Giants have a bigger fan base than the Packers.

             

            Set your aspirations higher man.

             

            Personally I sent the OP to relevant people days ago via PM.  A thread based on it could only go one direction.

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            Menace to Sobriety

              I've heard it said that Obama instituted RomneyCare, so it cam be blamed on either or both -- and if Romney is elected, then the blame can continue without any change at all - is that right?

               

               Can we call it Obamneycare? Or better still, O'Bomneycare. That way we can work the Irish into the whole Kenyan, Muslim, Mormon, Socialist, Capitalist agenda.

              Janie, today I quit my job. And then I told my boss to go f*** himself, and then I blackmailed him for almost sixty thousand dollars. Pass the asparagus.


              HobbyJogger & HobbyRacer

                El O'bamney Care

                It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.


                just a simple cat

                  When I was a poor student putting myself through college and working a minimum wage job with no health insurance, I was mighty grateful that there was a program to pay  my surgeon when I hit  a car with my face while biking to class.  That the program was paid for by folks who had it taken out of their taxes and who had earned that money by the sweat of their brows was not lost on me.  And if it is 'socialism' that my taxes now pay for similar programs to those in need, I have no problem with that 'socialism".   I am glad that any of those hard working tax payers didn't get to call me lazy and undeserving at the time to my face, for I would have cried.

                   

                  carry on

                   

                   

                  DoppleBock


                    {{{{Ilene's smushed face}}}}

                     

                    I would happily pay to de-smush your face

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                    just a simple cat

                      Big grin

                       

                       


                      Fast is better than long

                        Only you can make that assessment accurately.

                         

                        You classify yourself as Middle of the Road but apparently think our current POTUS believes in communist ideals. And yet many of those policies regarding healthcare and taxation used to be the Republican platform until very recently.

                         

                        If I could be anything I would be a Jeffersonian, minus the slavery thing.

                         

                        Thomas Paine "That government is best which governs least."
                        inherited by Thomas Jefferson

                         

                        I don't think this is Obama's fault. The president tries to state policy, but cannot constitutionally create law, so it's not a President problem.

                         

                        I can find flaw on both sides of the aisle

                        ---I understand why we subsidize oil exploration, and that it could be a national security issue, but at 10B profit per quarter, maybe it's time energy companies funded their own research. Boo Republicans

                        ---I don't think peanut farmers need subsidies anymore. Boo Republicans

                        ---Now some of the other farmed commodities are different. Dairy, Beef, Pork, Grains might need some help. In a truly capitalistic society all of these farmers would leave their crops behind in poor times for more profitable crops and because of the subsidation of other governments for their farmers true capitalism cannot thrive in some of these arenas. However, as less people produced a commodity it would increase in value and the capitalists would equalize the demand/surplus equation. This ones a draw.

                         

                        ---I am a landlord. I have some properties in section 8 and others not in section 8. The way the section 8 program works is that the tenant can only make a certain wage to still qualify for section 8 assistance and this number is far below the poverty live. Once they make that amount they are cutoff of section 8 assistance. There is not step down weaning, it's cold turkey. This to me is the example of the handout which creates dependancy, it is almost impossible for a person to bridge the gap from section 8 to self support. and with such a high barrier, I think there is an enticement not to try. This is my opinion and I have a small data set to work from, but it's 100% accurate in that small data set so far. Boo Democrats. However, I don't see a good solution from the Republican side.

                        @Crap work is calling I will leave this unfinished forever.

                         

                        I happen to like paying taxes, as it means that I have excess. I'd be worried when I was not paying taxes as I would have no income.

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                        Give a man a fire and he'll be warm the rest of the night;
                        Set a man afire and he'll be warm the rest of his life.

                        What in the Jehu?

                          I'd be worried when I was not paying taxes as I would have no income.

                          Faulty logic.

                          “Everything you need is already inside.” -- Bill Bowerman


                          Fast is better than long

                            Faulty logic.

                             

                            Guilty.

                             

                            I dislike the loopholes that allow for folks who make an income not pay taxes.

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                            Give a man a fire and he'll be warm the rest of the night;
                            Set a man afire and he'll be warm the rest of his life.

                            What in the Jehu?

                            DoppleBock


                              I'd be ok with a simplified tax code

                               

                              Income from all sources

                              (Depedent deduction) - This is really a bonus applied to family size

                              Taxable income

                               

                              Taken to a tax table

                               

                              Rates start at 0% as many people of the poorest people pay nothing after deductions

                              Rates cap at 50%

                               

                              No refundable credits for childeren (Some people pay negative tax)

                              No itemized deductions

                              No less tax rate on capital gains

                              No tax free interest

                               

                              I would probably try and keep the tax rate similar to the average of today for people 0-$100k, maybe $150k then start ramping up, so that people were paying 50% on all income above either $500k or $1M.

                               

                              Yes - That is taxing the rich,

                              Yes - That takes away any benefit to charity or owning a house

                               

                              Rich are still keeping 50% of extra money's earned and they will still be money hungry enough to earn at 50 cents on the dollar.

                               

                              AMT goes away

                              Loop holes go away

                               

                              Thousands of tax professional and IRS agents out of work.

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                              No Talent Drips

                                Another Option

                                 

                                Short and sweet...the only other tax I'd encourage is the sales (consumption) tax. Raise the sweet bejeesus out of both. And get rid of the rest.

                                 

                                You should go get the clap just so you can give it to her. --beef