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Problem Child
1:36:58 !!!!!! And no stops at the porta potty
NICE!!
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
VDOT 55.2
5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22
Mother of Cats
Last but not least Re: GPS watches: I have a strong feeling that Garmin is going the way of Nokia.
Doesn't Microsoft have to buy them first?
Andy - congrats!!!
Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.
And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.
Well Done Andy!! love to see the PRs rolling in.
5K 18:36 (2023), 10K 39:40 (2022), 1/2 1:24:37 (2023), full 2:58:36 (2015)
Well done Andy.
My week was (loosely) a recovery week but was only really that in the sense that mileage was a little lighter, as it ended up with a lot of surprisingly quick efforts. Little bit sluggish at the start of the week but was feeling good from Wed on, and Thursday's steady run was surprisingly fast and comfortable with a workout in the legs from the day prior. Couple more weeks to build then it's Waterfront HM, hopefully the enjoyable autumn conditions continue.
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Xterra Waitawa, 21 May, didn't die
Up next: Xterra Hunua, 11 June, also aiming to not die
"CONSISTENCY IS KING"
Boom! Nice work!!
Dave
Righteous! No bathroom breaks is the way to go. You're not hardcore unless you live hardcore.
Hot Weather Complainer
Andy - Congrats! Looking forward to hearing how it played out.
My week was a mixed bag. I had the midweek failed workout but then had a pretty good "Key session" yesterday. 2 x 50 mins of race pace, ended up being 10.8k in each block. After the first hour it warmed up significantly. It was probably around 20C with high sun and no wind for most of the run, which is higher than I'd like for a hard workout or race. I lost a lot of fluid and thought I detected cramp with 10 mins left of the second block but it didn't come on. I definitely felt like I was working hard. It would have been about a 104km week if not for the shortened Wednesday run but my coach told not to care about numbers and milestones so I won't...
5km: 18:53 12/22 │ 10km: 40:49 2/22 │ HM: 1:27:32* 5/22 │ M: 3:35:02 10/22
*Net Downhill. Flat course PR: 1:29:25 6/16
Upcoming Races:
Selwyn Marathon June 4, 2023
Hagley Park Run July 1 and August 12, 2023 (threshold Check ins)
Canterbury Road Running Champs 10km August 26, 2023
Run Prix Half Marathon (Melbourne) September 24, 2023
Intl. correspondent
Dave - Apple is Apple in this comparison heh, they're doing to Garmin the same they did to Nokia.Nokia rested on their laurels, ignored the touch screen trend and died a slow death.Garmin is innovating but I feel like they won't ever be able to adopt something like Wear OS out of pride.And the thing is that the "serious runner market" is much smaller than we think.When Apple and Google come around with true smart watches that can hail Ubers, pay the bill with NFC or do turn by turn navigation in google maps, and whatever other wizardry they can pull with AI, the entire new generation of runners will probably prefer that and won't even hear about Garmin.
Andy - Spectacular! A PR by over 3 minutes though we knew that already didn't we since you were breaking PRs in training recently 😎
DW - LOL that whole episode where Microsoft bought Nokia was quite funny.
me - I took on way more elevation than I should on a recovery week, but despite being super tired I suppose it might help me on the long run with extra muscular endurance.
PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021
Up next: Base building till August
Oct 1st - World Half Marathon Champs in Riga - Latvia - sub 1:21:59 PR
Dec 3rd - Valencia Marathon - sub 2:59
April 2024 - Porto Eco Trail - Finish the damn thing.
Tool to generate Strava weekly
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I do think that one big distinction between Garmin and Nokia is that the word "Garmin" has become a generic term. We don't say "sportswatch," we say "Garmin." In the same way that we use "Google" when we mean "search the internet" or "Xerox" when we mean "make a paper copy." Nokia never hit that level of ubiquity. OTOH, a brand name become generic doesn't guarantee long term market dominance (see: Xerox) and sometimes the brand can lose its trademark protection as a result.
And I think you make a really good point about how small our "serious runner" cohort is. We're really not as valuable as we think we are.
18:21
3.10mi
5:55.3, 5:56.8, 5:56.1, 33.3 (5:20/mi pace kick).
not enough room at the finish to get a full 5k.
First place REGISTERED Male 30-39 and since I left my bib at home I don’t get the age group award which is sad since I may never have another opportunity to have a first place at this race again, and showing off the age group award would feel cooler than a Boston jacket at the Sunday Runday group.
Flavio - nice post-PR week. I don't think the elevation is a bad thing on a recovery week - forces you to allocate the work among different muscles.
Steve - your coach is very wise. That Saturday run was very nice.
Marky_Mark - I see a lot of multi-use path conflict in your week. Training-wise, it's always good to finish the week feeling better than you started.
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My week:
53 miles running, 1000 yards swimming and 3 hours pool-running.
M: 90 minutes pool-running.T: Upper body weights/core and 8 miles easy (9:24) plus drills (no strides).W: Streaming yoga and 10 miles easy (9:19) plus drills and hill sprints. Th: 90 minutes pool-running and upper body weights/core. F: 10 miles, including a short track workout of 3200, 1600 in 14:04 (7:07/6:57) and 6:44 with 5:15 jog in between. Followed with leg strengthwork and 500 yards recovery swimming.Sa: Streaming yoga and 10 miles easy (8:54), plus drills and strides.Su: 14 miles progressive, split as first 5 miles averaging 9:07 pace, next 4 miles averaging 7:49 pace, next 5 miles averaging 7:27 pace, plus a mile cooldown. Followed with injury prevention work and 500 yards recovery swimming.
The first half of the week was recovery from Sunday's half-marathon, and then I reintroduced some faster running. I also shifted full time to wearing a big toe spacer for all my runs, including workouts. (hat tip to Flavio for mentioning toe separators - my PT had the same idea, but she wants me to wear full toe separators when NOT running, and only a big toe spacer when I do run.)
Wearing the big toe spacer requires some adjustment - it feels like a rock in each shoe between my big and second toes. But running with it feels great - I feel much more stable when I run, especially when I push off. And I'm running faster for the same effort - not surprising since I essentially have better wheels to pair with my engine.
18:21 3.10mi 5:55.3, 5:56.8, 5:56.1, 33.3 (5:20/mi pace kick). not enough room at the finish to get a full 5k. First place REGISTERED Male 30-39 and since I left my bib at home I don’t get the age group award which is sad since I may never have another opportunity to have a first place at this race again, and showing off the age group award would feel cooler than a Boston jacket at the Sunday Runday group.
Very nice job, even with the short course. 3 sub-6:00 miles in a row was the goal, right?
Did you run without a bib?
RIP Milkman
Very nice job, even with the short course. 3 sub-6:00 miles in a row was the goal, right? Did you run without a bib?
By piecing together the Strava story, it seems like it didn’t register?
Either way, this definitely meets the goal even with a short course as the goal was sub 6:00 total. Given your current PR is a 19:35, I think we can safely say you would have gotten a PR either way
5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
Next Race: NYC Half (3/19)
Yup. Left it at home and the race had no extras.
yup goal was 5:57/mi and 5:55 was my personal‘don’t go faster’ limit today for fear of blowing up.
It’s not short by enough for me to not count it since the honest truth is I could have maintained it another few seconds. Maybe I’ll find out if it’s certified.
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/10682295845
edit: course NOT certified. Maybe I should push the race director to GET it certified since they could just move the official start line back enough to make it count, and it probably wouldn’t be in the way of the finish kick. You cross the start line 90 degrees from
the direction you go out
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I do think that one big distinction between Garmin and Nokia is that the word "Garmin" has become a generic term. We don't say "sportswatch," we say "Garmin." In the same way that we use "Google" when we mean "search the internet" or "Xerox" when we mean "make a paper copy." Nokia never hit that level of ubiquity. OTOH, a brand name become generic doesn't guarantee long term market dominance (see: Xerox) and sometimes the brand can lose its trademark protection as a result. And I think you make a really good point about how small our "serious runner" cohort is. We're really not as valuable as we think we are.
I really don’t think Garmin is going that way. If anything, their revenue has done very well in the past few years in the fitness segment, even as so many other competitors have entered the market.
Also - don’t forget Garmin has a big space in both aviation and marine. Nobody is flying their plane with Apple equipment.