Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 618 times)

Marky_Mark_17


     

    Also Steve has not raced for a long time.  I definitely need to race to get race for.

     

    Yeah, this is true for me too.  When I found out National Road Champs were likely to be moved, the first thing I did was look for another tune-up race before Rotorua Marathon.  There is no way I will perform to my potential in that race if it's my first race in 6 months.

     

    Although, I think for Steve he was balancing this against risk of injury which is why he hasn't raced as frequently as others.

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

    Up next: Runway5, 4 May

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    watsonc123


      And it was rather hard to find races in March and April!

      PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

       

      40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

       

      2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

       

      2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

      SteveChCh


      Hot Weather Complainer

        Yeah I missed out on the City to Surf by a few days. I definitely think I’ll be better for having done this one.

        5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

         

        2024 Races:

        Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

        Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

        Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

        Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

        zebano


          Steve you gutted that out well. Knowing it's not your day that early is super hard. Good planning having your partner show up latter to keep you honest. I hope the coach helps push you to sub 90.

          1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

          zebano


            Hey unsolicited advice from me! With social distancing restrictions being relaxed be sure to do workouts with other people. I had a track session today and due to the heat I was in a bad headspace and thinking about sandbagging and my running friend told me "you can handle this, just don't overrun the first few reps like you always do", I got into it and Voilà it was done as prescribed. She wasn't even doing the same workout, just at the same track, it's good to have other people out there sweating with you.

            1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

            flavio80


            Intl. correspondent

              Darkwave - I’ll pass along what was said to me last year when I joined the first running club.

              The coaches swore by this and said they’ve been to Kenya and they thought the same over there.

              Anyway, they said when it comes to running form all you can do is strength training to correct possible imbalances, improve core strength in general.

              You should never ever think of form cues or try to consciously alter your form.

              The reasoning was that we’re all biomechanically different and the body knows what to do if we let it.

               

              DPS - tough times on your home town it seems. I’ve seen very similar scenarios back in 2013 in Brazil, though thankfully it died out once the President was kicked out of office.

              But the issue was the same: A large number of people protesting a fair cause and a few infiltrated trying to create as much chaos.

               

              Steve - my two cents. I think you’re leaving the race in the training. You’re very likely going to the well too much and come up empty on race day.

              It’s possible your training block was too long.

              I’m glad to hear you’re going to work with a coach, hopefully they can provide a few tweaks and you’ll get there.

               

              Mark - BOTT, sub 2H39!!!

               

              me - I threw my back again today. Out of nowhere. I then did that magic stretch taught by Piwi and it was back in place.

              Anyway, I seem to be fine now but it was really annoying.

               

              It looks like I'm going to have to deliver a few packs of Belgian beer to Piwi if I ever go to New Zealand.

              PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

              Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

              Tool to generate Strava weekly

              SteveChCh


              Hot Weather Complainer

                Flavio - yep, I’ve concluded that I train at a higher level than I race. Now I just need a plan to fix it.

                5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                 

                2024 Races:

                Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

                Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                  Zebano I've never done a workout with anyone except my son when he was 13/14 we did some 6x1000s. I'd imagine it helps as long runs with others do.

                   

                  Flavio glad that stretch helped. The first thing I do every morning is back stretches. I'm doing alot more other stuff than I have ever done which I'm hoping will help my running. Ab workouts, bodybalance, pressups, biking, and hamstring strength are part of my weekly schedule now.

                  55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                  " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    Zebano I've never done a workout with anyone except my son when he was 13/14 we did some 6x1000s. I'd imagine it helps as long runs with others do.

                     

                     

                    I did a workout with Mark Boyce two weeks after I beat him at Auckland Road Champs (I ran him down on a horrible day on lap 4 of 5 I think).  He was obviously out for payback and pretty much crushed me!

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                    Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      I posted on Sunday the ankle was seeming to improve. And on Monday morning I had a meeting out of town and got up and did 10 miles. I did the first two and almost shut it down because it started to ache but I decided to push the pace and see if it would loosen up and it seemed to. 

                      Today, it was tight. I shut down the treadmill two miles in. I’m flustered because it’s stayed swollen basically but doesn’t hurt as much. So my plan is to take the next few days off and just ride. 

                      So...anyone have any suggestion on how to calculate calories burned from cycling? Last week in a 12 mph 8 mile ride, my Garmin has me at almost 400 calories burned. 

                      Today after I shut down my run, I did a great 20 mile ride at 15 mph with 1100+ feet of elevation and my Garmin has me at 565 calories burned. 

                      Running is easy for me to track to be wise with my diet, but cycling is a new beast and I just want to make sure I’m fueling properly for the coming days. Also, the end of the month I’ll be at the beach and I don’t want to have quarantine body.

                      JMac11


                      RIP Milkman

                        Sorry for being so MIA, I'll try to check in more, but just wanted to say to Steve that I read the race report and sorry it didn't work out. I do think this goes to what we've said multiple times though, which is that you will never race well on your first race back. I know you are trying to prevent injuries, but I think this will end up being a rust buster and you can put up another good time. 2 months is probably okay before your next race, but in the future, I would never go more than 3 months without racing. The mental anguish is real, and I can use myself as a perfect example: once you start bailing in workouts, it makes bailing in the next workout that much easier.

                         

                        I expect much bigger success in 2 months 

                        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                         

                         

                        SteveChCh


                        Hot Weather Complainer

                          Mrakers - unfortunately any time I’ve cycled I’ve had wildly varied calorie counts. Maybe trial and error?

                           

                          JMac - my initial analysis with a coach is pointing to over-training and not starting the race conservatively enough. 0-5km time was 21:06. 15-20km was 22:28. I think I’d have had a much better race if 0-5km was 22:28, or even 21:30. I did have several shorter races scheduled in this build up which didn’t happen for obvious reasons. I’m not worried about injury in short races (although the real injury risk is the week or 2 after a race).

                           

                          The plan we’re formulating for the next race looks almost too easy...basically all easy and tempo, no Vo2 Max.

                          5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                           

                          2024 Races:

                          Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                          Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

                          Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                          Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                          JMac11


                          RIP Milkman

                            What exactly is your coach seeing that is pointing to over-training?

                            5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                             

                             

                            SteveChCh


                            Hot Weather Complainer

                              For the last 5 weeks, my long run Saturday turned into a real slog with skyrocketing heart rate.  He's confident I have the speed but need to develop more ability to run race pace on tired legs.  But the legs have been too tired - I had to dig almost as deep as I can to complete some of those long runs (I say almost because I think Sunday was as far as I can dig).

                              5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                               

                              2024 Races:

                              Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                              Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

                              Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                              Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                              Marky_Mark_17


                                For the last 5 weeks, my long run Saturday turned into a real slog with skyrocketing heart rate.  He's confident I have the speed but need to develop more ability to run race pace on tired legs.  But the legs have been too tired - I had to dig almost as deep as I can to complete some of those long runs (I say almost because I think Sunday was as far as I can dig).

                                 

                                Yeah, that's definitely worth keeping an eye on.  With my long runs, my legs are generally starting to feel tired by the end (a bit tired if it's 25km, very tired if it's 35km!) but the HR only creeps up very gradually over the course of the run either way.

                                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                                * Net downhill course

                                Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                                Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"