Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 618 times)

flavio80


Intl. correspondent

    Piwi - you should do it then and have your kiddo film them 

     

    me - great news on the time trial course front. I went to Facebook today (I often forget about the thematic groups) and found a local facebook group about running in Bologna.

    After some back and forth it was clear that there is no suitable track in town.

    One comment however told me to check the western side of the city which is completely flat.

    In fact, I do remember when we arrived in Italy back in January we stayed in Bologna for a couple of nights and that region was very flat.

    There are a couple of possible courses there I need to check them over the next few days.

     

    Now I just need to avoid doing any fuck ups in the next 4 days.

    PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

    Up next: no idea

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    Marky_Mark_17


      I think this is what the kids call " roasting " 

       

        

       

      Zinger!

       

      This is another reason why I'm prioritising the Southern Lakes Half Marathon next year over Christchurch Marathon and Rotorua Marathon (even if I can't get a marathon done this year).  The banter that will eventuate from me running another downhill HM will be gold.

      3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

      10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

      * Net downhill course

      Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

      Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      zebano


        Hey guys I started watching Eco race Fiji, the World's  Toughest race on Amazon prime with my kids and New Zealand's team is lead by a man named Nathan and I am incredibly disappointed  his last name isn't  Jones.

        1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

        Marky_Mark_17


          Hey guys I started watching Eco race Fiji, the World's  Toughest race on Amazon prime with my kids and New Zealand's team is lead by a man named Nathan and I am incredibly disappointed  his last name isn't  Jones.

           

          He may just have changed it to avoid confusion.

          3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

          10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

          * Net downhill course

          Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

          Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

          "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

          CommanderKeen


          Cobra Commander Keen

            Mark - Sickness is highly doubtful - I can't remember even having a bug this year.

             

            JMac - Baby and mama still doing well?

            I hope you're right about it just being something my body isn't used to and it'll go away soon. Slogged through 10 this morning, but stopped twice during (at 3 and 7). I really want this to turn around soon since I'm now a month out from a real, life HM!

            5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22

             

            Upcoming Races:

             

             

            zebano


               

              He may just have changed it to avoid confusion.

               

              That's big of him. Cheers for Nathan "Not Jones" Fa'avae

              1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

              Marky_Mark_17


                 

                That's big of him. Cheers for Nathan "Not Jones" Fa'avae

                 

                Even went for a Samoan name just to really avoid confusion.  Good for him!

                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                * Net downhill course

                Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                  I think Fa'avae is Jones in Samoan 

                   

                  Keen hope you get on top of that lack of energy. I experience it if I run later in the day. It's just horrible for me. I'm definitely a morning person.

                  55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                  " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    OK, so this lockdown scenario, based on today's announcement, might set me up for JMac levels of taper madness.  Here's the deal:

                    • The whole country is currently at Alert Level 2, which restricts mass gatherings to 100 (or 10 in Auckland)
                    • Rotorua Marathon have said they will go ahead if Rotorua is at Alert Level 1 by race day (26 Sept)
                    • (note there have only been 2 cases outside of Auckland which were directly linked to Auckland)
                    • The current alert levels were effective until midnight this Sunday (6 Sept)
                    • Today the government has announced the current levels will remain in effect until midnight on Wed 16 Sept
                    • They will be reviewed on Mon 14 Sept to see if they can be reduced

                    I found this all very contradictory because the PM first talked about the cluster being contained and lockdown being a last resort but then basically extended the lockdown, so go figure.

                     

                    Long story short, I won't know until 12 days before the race if it's going ahead.  I guess, big picture, things seem to be heading in the right direction so the odds of either Rotorua OR Wairarapa Country Marathon going ahead are probably pretty good.

                     

                    From a training perspective, I'm still going to do 35km this Sunday, and then next week was always going to be a lighter week with the Run Albany 10km happening on Sunday in some shape or form, so I guess it doesn't muck it up too much.  I might just need to figure out what to do with the two extra weeks until WCM if that becomes the option.

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                    Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    SteveChCh


                    Hot Weather Complainer

                      I agree that this continuation is contradictory and ridiculous (okay I added the second part).

                       

                      My race will be during level 2, but given the small number of people, it should go ahead.  I haven't entered yet so I don't blow another entry fee but it might pay to enter now just in case they restrict numbers - they could well get more people than usual this year with all the cancelled/postponed races.

                      5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                       

                      2024 Races:

                      Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                      Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

                      Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                      Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        I agree that this continuation is contradictory and ridiculous (okay I added the second part).

                         

                        My race will be during level 2, but given the small number of people, it should go ahead.  I haven't entered yet so I don't blow another entry fee but it might pay to enter now just in case they restrict numbers - they could well get more people than usual this year with all the cancelled/postponed races.

                         

                        That was my logic for entering Wairarapa Country Marathon as a backup race now (the almost-completely-refundable entry fee helped).  Other races have previously capped entries in order to ensure they can safely go ahead if gathering restrictions are in place.

                         

                        I think it's a bit nuts that the rest of the country (especially the South Island) is subject to largely the same restrictions as Auckland still, sorry about that.

                        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        * Net downhill course

                        Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                        Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        flavio80


                        Intl. correspondent

                          Mark - only knowing whether you’re going to race 12 days prior sounds beneficial, you’ll only have 12 days of taper madness 

                           

                          Ok, time to lay down the plan of attack.

                           

                          This Sunday I intend to run a 5km time trial. It will be GPS based 5050m (5 laps of 1010m), 1% extra to account for GPS inaccuracies.

                          It will be several laps on a short 600m loop with firm pavement around some apartment buildings. I intend to run at or close to 6am to find the chillier part of the day and also avoid other humans, mostly due to the running at 5k pace thing.

                           

                          My current 5k PR was run in April 2016, 18:05 on a chilly morning 10c and 81kg. I was light, in beastly shape after a full block training for a 50km race that had me running up to 75 miles 120km per week.

                          My splits that day were: 3:20, 3:38, 3:42, 3:42, 3:43. I’m certain I could’ve gone under 18 with better pacing.

                          After that day I’ve tried many times but only came close. Closest was last year with 18:12.

                           

                          My recent workouts suggest 18:20 to 18:25. Usually in the past I was much faster in races than in training, but given this is a time trial I'm not sure what's going to happen.

                          The only thing I know is that I'm going out in PR pace and hold on for dear life.

                           

                          The course will be 100% flat and I'm in relatively good shape after a good 3 month uninterrupted block of training.

                          I've been very diligent with the strength training and I'm certainly stronger now than 4 years ago. I'm a bit under 83kg though so certainly heavier. If you think 2kg don't matter I invite you to gather 2 packs of 1kg of rice and run a 5k carrying them heh.

                           

                          However with temperatures around 17c 63F it's very likely that I'm going to blow out spectacularly as I'm a very poor runner in warm weather.

                          Whatever happens I'm going to try again in the beginning of October in a proper race.

                          PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                          Up next: no idea

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                          JamesD


                          JamesD

                            Flavio - Good luck!  I may be the only person on the board who agrees with your characterization of 10C/50F as chilly, but if you think 10C is chilly, how is 17C/63F so warm that you're likely to blow up in something as short as a 5K?  Seems like relatively warm weather (whatever your definition of that is) is good for a 5K, as you want to be ready to go hard right from the start.

                             

                            My wife used to run at 6am on Sundays when we lived in Spain, and she said there was a surprising amount of traffic at that hour, apparently people returning home (in less-than-perfectly-straight lines) from their late Saturday nights.  Do you get that in Italy?

                            Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

                            '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

                              James I got heckled by 3 drunks a few weeks ago at 6am on a sunday morning. I think its international 

                               

                              Flavio all the best. Your c goal is to beat my 18.29 then 

                              You are really fast in the shorter distances. Maybe be careful in that 1st km. Theres no point running the 1st km in 3.30 and then going south from there. Try run them more evenly based on what you think is attainable,.   Or do whatever you want and ignore my advice 

                              55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                              " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               

                              watsonc123


                                Flavio - good luck.  I think you should be 3:45 for the first km.  And then see if you can slightly quicken up.

                                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                                 

                                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                                 

                                2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                                 

                                2024 PRs: 5km 20:25