Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 618 times)

watsonc123


    These Auckland Covid-19 community cases keep happening.  I'm not confident about Rotorua at all now.  We really need to be seeing consecutive days of zero community transmission, for any chance of getting to Level 1 by 26 September.

     

    Good news is that the 19 September Wellington Road Champs will go ahead at Level 2.  If we're at Level 2, they'll have the races spread throughout the day, probably split off masters from seniors, maybe men and woman too.  They'll possibly shorten the races too due to time limits.  They haven't announced details yet.  Ideally I'll be racing a 10km with a chance of a PR, but if not it will be a 5km or 7.5km race (as it's a 2.5km course).

    PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

     

    40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

     

    2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

     

    2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

    Marky_Mark_17


      These Auckland Covid-19 community cases keep happening.  I'm not confident about Rotorua at all now.  We really need to be seeing consecutive days of zero community transmission, for any chance of getting to Level 1 by 26 September.

       

      They're all already in isolation or quarantine, though, as they're all connected to the current cluster.  The Minister is on record saying that we don't necessarily need to be at zero cases to go to Level 1.  The thing that would hold us up would be if another case came up that hadn't been isolated as a close contact of the existing cluster.  I'm still optimistic.

      3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

      10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

      * Net downhill course

      Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

      Up next: Runway5, 4 May

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      watsonc123


        I hope you're right.

         

        My week was pretty light (third light week in a row).  I made the week pretty light so I was fresh for my race.

         

        Weekly for period: From: 31/08/2020 To 06/09/2020

        Date Name Distance
        in km
        Duration Avg Pace
        per km
        Elevation Gain
        in m
        31/08/2020 Evening Run 7.52 00:43:15 05:45 23
        01/09/2020 Evening Run 7.21 00:40:01 05:33 31
        02/09/2020 Evening Run - Incl. Tempo 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th km 11.59 00:53:29 04:37 30
        03/09/2020 Evening Run 6.97 00:33:33 04:49 15
        05/09/2020 Warm Up 3.73 00:16:26 04:24 7
        05/09/2020 Trentham Harriers Road Race 7.59 00:30:13 03:59 15
        05/09/2020 Cool Down 1.02 00:05:12 05:06 2
        06/09/2020 Afternoon Run 3.11 00:15:29 04:59 20
        06/09/2020 Hamstring Prehab Work 0.00 01:00:00 00:00 0

        Total distance: 48.74km

        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

         

        40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

         

        2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

         

        2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

        flavio80


        Intl. correspondent

          James - When I wrote chilly for 10C 50F I meant it was a cooler day. My best race was run at 0C 32F.

          I guess it depends where in Spain you guys lived. If you lived in Barcelona near the Main Street I’d guess you’d meet tons of drunks at that time heh.

           

          Watson - great race, you are improving well the last few months.

           

          Me - My week below, a very light week tapering for the 5k race. I know some of you will find that tapering extreme, but it seemed to have worked out very well.

           

          Weekly for period: From: 31/08/2020 To 06/09/2020

          Date Name Distance
          in km
          Duration Avg Pace
          per km
          Elevation Gain
          in m
          31/08/2020 Morning Run 5.57 00:30:01 05:23 33
          01/09/2020 Race Prep: 5x (90s I + 120s E) 8.27 00:40:00 04:50 47
          02/09/2020 Scouting the potential time trial location. It's the 2 loops close to the Cirenaica district 5.60 00:30:00 05:21 21
          03/09/2020 Morning Run 5.69 00:30:00 05:16 19
          05/09/2020 Pre-race shake out 2.86 00:15:00 05:15 9
          06/09/2020 Warm up 1.82 00:10:01 05:30 0
          06/09/2020 New 5K PR 18:02 (previous 18:05). 5.06 00:18:04 03:34 9
          06/09/2020 Cool down 1.82 00:10:01 05:30 6

           

          TL;DR; new 5K pr 18:02

           

          I woke up at 5:45 and did my usual pre-running routine, foam rolling. I also had my usual pre-race breakfast which is absolutely nothing but water.

          I also figured out that Darkwave would never EVER run a race in Bologna due to the notorious lack of Chipotle restaurants.

          I also thought about copy-pasting a block from either of Mark's last race reports where he lists all the athletes in his town by order of pedigree, and switching the names to Italian guys, like Natano Giovanni or something, but I figured it was a bit too over the top.

          I also thought about all the guys who recommended I was cautious with the pace over the first km (Steve, Piwi, Watson) and how I'd, unfortunately, most likely not need their advice, just my nature I guess haha.

          Also, shout out to Kimba if she's still reading this, like her I always think I'm an Olympian during the first 500m of a race and go out in PR pace. Today was the day where my fitness finally matched my confidence.

           

          I didn’t sync the watch with the phone, so I expected the GPS signal to take a bit of time to lock.

          Since I would do a 1.8km warm up to the time trial location, I didn’t wait for the gps to fully lock up and got going.

          Annoyingly the GPS watch never locked the signal on the way. 

          Arriving there, I stopped the watch and did my mobility routine (calf rotation, wrist rotation, shoulder rotation, hip rotation, butt kicks, etc).

          I was waiting for the GPS signal to lock but it was never locking. I figured I had to wait until a good signal otherwise the pacing would be all over the place.

          A couple minutes later it clicked and off I went.

           

          Anybody who's not a runner would find the situation quite funny, a middle aged dude huffing and puffing outside their window.

           

          I've tried to focus on having the right pace from the get go as it's easier to maintain once the pace is locked.

          The first lap was around 660m so I knew every 1.5 laps would be 1km. That was somehow reassuring.

          Km 1 in 3:29. 

          A bit quick at 3:29, but way better than the 3:20 I ran on my last PR. By the end of this K theaverage pace was drifting to 3:35 so it was alright. 

           

          Km 2 in 3:34, 7:03 so far so good.

           

          Km 3 in 3:36, 10:39, still feeling good.

           

          At this point I just focused on keeping the pace and then really concentrating on the block from 3km to 4km which is where I usually lose it. Since somehow my brain is wired as such that when I want to speed up I increase cadence and vice versa, I focused on keeping the same cadence throughout the km. It would be impossible to run slower at that cadence.. I figured once I've gotten past 4km I'd "see" the finish line and I'd be able to sprint to it.

           

          Km 4 in 3:34, 14:13. GOD DAMMIT. I might just have it. Some quick mental math and I figured I had to run a 3:52 for the final km + 50m to get the PR. It'd be so CLOSE. Just…….keep…….pushing.

           

          Despite my best efforts I did slow down a bit.

           

          Km 5 in 3:39 + 10s over the last 50m.

           

          This bit was a bit funny. I crossed the 5km mark and the watch started showing the lap. I needed to run an extra 50m but I couldn't see the distance because the watch was still showing the lap result haha.

          So I've waited a couple of seconds and hit stop. The watch said 5.060m so it was all good. Then the time: 18:02 FUCK YEAH. I've got it. I've kicked this monkey off my shoulders.

          Not bad for an old man. I've raised my arms to celebrate while gasping for air. I then walked past a homeless man sleeping on a bench. I'm glad he was sleeping cause this would be a weird encounter haha.

          The funny weirdo gasping for air with the arms in the air in celebration for apparently nothing.

           

          I should hopefully be able to run it again October 2nd in a proper race and if all goes well I should hopefully finally go under the 18 minute barrier.

          PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

          Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

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          JamesD


          JamesD

            Congratulations, flavio, that's great!  Good that you've got an opportunity to go under 18 soon.  Guess the warmish weather wasn't a problem.

             

            We lived in Madrid, by the way, and there were enough Sunday morning drunks, though probably not as many as in Barcelona.  Lots of good/serious runners too, as well as lots of smokers.

            Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

            '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

            darkwave


            Mother of Cats

              Nice job on your race, Watson! (and I've watched some Seth DeMoor videos also - he can be surprisingly entertaining)

              Steve: the secret is NOT to not have bad days, but to not have them on race day. So well done!

              James D - FWIW, 2x3 miles at HMP seems like a very very hard workout to me. I checked out the cache of the website you mentioned - and it does look very cool. I hope it comes back up soon.

              Piwi - solid week.

              Marky_Mark - fingers very crossed.

              Flavio - you are right. In fact, all of Italy is off limits until Chipotle moves in.

              And outstanding time trial (and a good read). The extra 50m was to make sure it was legit, right (and good for you if so). Sub-18 should be yours in a good race.

               

              As for me:

               

              38 miles and 6:30 hours of pool-running
              M: 70 minutes pool-running and upper body weights/core.
              T: 7 miles, with 2 hill repeats up a 370m hill in 1:54 and 1:56. Followed with 40 minutes pool-running and streaming yoga.
              W: 4 miles aerobic (9:36), 70 minutes pool-running, and streaming yoga.
              Th: 70 minutes pool-running and upper body weights/core
              F: 8 miles, including 6 hill repeats up a 370m hill in between 1:3x and 1:4x, with a bit over 3 minutes jogging recovery. Followed with 40 minutes pool-running and leg strengthwork.
              Sa: 7 miles very easy (9:31), streaming yoga, and 50 minutes pool-running.
              Su: 12 miles progressive (9:41/9:14/9:17/9:33/8:43/8:41/8:24/8:09/8:08/7:53/7:45/7:36), followed by some leg strengthwork and streaming yoga, and then 50 minutes pool-running.

               

              Quick update: a second round of bloodwork confirmed that my serum folate (i.e. B9) is low, and low enough to need treatment.  Nearly everything else is fine and in range, with the exception of B12, which is high.  So I've started folate supplements.  And in a variety of ways am feeling some improvement already.  Could be placebo effect.  If so, I don't care - I'll take it.

               

              Separately, I've been managing a recurrence of nerve pain in my left leg - basically it feels like the sciatic nerve in my leg leg is getting snagged on something rather than moving freely.    But that seems to be improving too - weird since nerve pain apparently goes with B12 deficiency, not Folate.  See above comment about the placebo effect.

              Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

               

              And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

              watsonc123


                Flavio - big congratulations.

                 

                Darkwave - glad you're on the mend.  Could you reduction in nerve pain, simply be the result of healing time combined with your volume reduction (less stree)?

                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                 

                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                 

                2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                 

                2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                SteveChCh


                Hot Weather Complainer

                  watson - woops, so it was.  Still a great pace and time.  Good to see you back to close to your best after all that hard work rehabbing your hamstring.

                   

                  Mark - very nice long run.  Looking forward to seeing how much you smash your PR by...which is looking more and more ridiculous when a 7km recovery trot at the end of a training run would beat it!

                   

                  flavio - Great report and great run.  Good job ignoring all the advice - only you know your body.

                   

                  James - That is quite a tough workout especially for the first one in a while, I wouldn't worry too much about not hitting the paces yet.

                   

                  piwi - Nice week.  Hope you find a race soon, you seem primed for a big performance.

                   

                  darkwave - Nice week and good to hear you're making progress with the health issues.  Hopefully the left leg settles down.  You are right, much prefer to have a bad day in training but it makes me nervous that it's so apparently random.  I did have quite a big few weeks so it might just have been it all catching up.

                   

                  me - A lighter week as I recovered from the adventure race, apart from a solid workout on Wednesday which felt extremely comfortable, then a small workout on Saturday which was a bit of a grind.  It's race week again and I'm hoping for a stress free taper to freshen up.  I'm working from home while we stay in level 2 so that reduces the chance of catching a minor cold and withdrawing like my last attempted race.

                   

                  I entered the race on Friday and asked the organisers for a map of the loop in Hagley Park which turns out to be EXACTLY the same as the loop I did for the time trial on May 31, which given the many paths and potential loops in Hagley Park is slightly spooky.  I guess I know exactly what to expect.  Last year there were about 20 men and 15 women in this race which is fine with me.  There is a 10km which starts 30 minutes after the half-marathon so it will get a little more crowded but probably no different to a standard Sunday morning in Hagley Park.

                   

                  Weekly for period: From: 31/08/2020 To 06/09/2020

                  Date Name Distance
                  in km
                  Duration Avg Pace
                  per km
                  Elevation Gain
                  in m
                  31/08/2020 Warm up 0.45 00:02:50 06:18 0
                  31/08/2020 70 minutes easy pace 14.63 01:10:14 04:48 12
                  02/09/2020 Warm up 0.45 00:03:09 07:00 0
                  02/09/2020 70 mins incl. 3 x (3km @ 4:15/km, 1km easy) 16.02 01:10:48 04:25 13
                  03/09/2020 70 mins recovery pace 13.49 01:11:18 05:17 16
                  05/09/2020 Warm up 0.46 00:03:04 06:40 0
                  05/09/2020 16km incl. 2 x 2km @ 4:20/km 16.25 01:15:49 04:40 14
                  06/09/2020 30 mins recovery 5.10 00:30:15 05:56 3

                  Total distance: 66.85km

                  5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                   

                  2024 Races:

                  Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

                  Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                  Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    Flavio - awesome job on the PR.  Enjoyed the RR too (particularly the sneaky Nathan Jones reference).  Those situations where you know it comes down to the last km or so can be quite exciting / nerve-wracking but I think the extra adrenaline often helps!

                     

                    Darkwave - placebo or not, it sounds like positive progress - hope thing continue to improve.

                     

                    Watson - do you have a goal in mind for Rotorua (assuming it happens, of course)?

                     

                    Steve -good week and I completely agree with your plan to avoid the office this week.  I'll be likely doing the same before my marathon, although to be fair the primary disease vector in our household is the 3-year old.

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                    Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    darkwave


                    Mother of Cats

                       

                       

                      Darkwave - glad you're on the mend.  Could you reduction in nerve pain, simply be the result of healing time combined with your volume reduction (less stree)?

                       

                      Quite possible, and no way to know for sure.  OTOH, I've had a really long lasting mild nerve pain issue in my right ankle that has persisted despite taking a full week off of running earlier this spring.  And now it's gone.

                       

                      But yes, all of this could be placebo, or could be reduced workload.  But it definitely feels like something has shifted (which could all be mental).

                      Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                       

                      And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                      watsonc123


                        Mark - no Rotorua goal yet.  It looks a pretty slow course with the trail and hills.  So I guess it is 5 minutes slower than a quick course?   So I might figure out a fast course aim, then add 5 minutes.

                        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                         

                        40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                         

                        2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                         

                        2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                          Flavio yes good job ignoring us although your splits were very even around 3.35/km after the initial faster opening km. Your overall weekly mileage always seems so low for someone who performs so well. I forget that you are beast of middle distance stuff though 

                           

                          Darkwave good to hear progress is been made.

                           

                          Steve good ole Hagley Park. Great place for races. My daughter felt that quake the other day. Her first one.

                          If we go back to level 1 I can jump into our local Parkrun.

                           

                          Mark one of my Strava mates Kunaal looks like hes going to ask for a transfer from Rotorua this year to next. He would be slightly slower than you although he won Tauranga a couple of years ago with a 2.39 I think.

                           

                          Watson they've changed that half course 3 times since I've been running. It's still my pr from 2014 when it was a flat out and back road course.

                          55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                          " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                          Somewhere in between is about right "      

                           

                          Marky_Mark_17


                             

                            Mark one of my Strava mates Kunaal looks like hes going to ask for a transfer from Rotorua this year to next. He would be slightly slower than you although he won Tauranga a couple of years ago with a 2.39 I think.

                             

                            Seems like a weird thing to do.  If the race goes ahead, you'd sure as hell be wanting to take the opportunity.  If it doesn't go ahead, they'll probably roll all the entries to next year anyway like Christchurch and others have done.   I guess maybe if he's got injury niggles or his training hasn't been where he wanted it to be, that would make sense.

                            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                            * Net downhill course

                            Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                            Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              Mark yeah there could be something else going on there with his training.

                               

                              Flavio I meant to ask did you do any 5k predictor workouts or did you just go for it on the day ?

                              55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                              " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               

                              Marky_Mark_17


                                Run Albany Lakes has predictably announced that they'll run Sunday's scheduled 10k event as a time trial - although they're doing it on-course with live timing across 3 different 3-hour timeslots (Fri PM, Sat AM, Sun AM) which is kinda nice.  There's a virtual option as well.  They've locked the series placings after the first 2 races from Jan/Feb though.  I'll probably still give it a good crack with the caveat that it's not a particularly fast course (4 x 2.5k laps with a hill and quite a few turns).

                                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                                * Net downhill course

                                Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                                Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"