Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 607 times)

    Congrats Chris great job and looks like very close to sub 40. This will give Jmac more fuel to ridicule our courses and measurements here 

     

    I think you should dress as Lady Gaga anyway 

    50+ PBs -  

    5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

    10k 38.44 feb 6th strava run

    " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

    Somewhere in between is about right "      

     

    Marky_Mark_17


      Congrats Chris great job and looks like very close to sub 40. This will give Jmac more fuel to ridicule our courses and measurements here 

       

      I think you should dress as Lady Gaga anyway 

       

      In fairness to JMac, the one 10km course in NZ that I know to be certified to IAAF/AIMS standards - the Auckland course at Bruce Pulman Park - generally has runners at 10.1-10.2km on the watch (and there aren't any trees or buildings around that would screw up the GPS).  The track 10k's I've run have been 10.6-10.8km on the watch.  But I agree this still calls for some Gaga action!

      5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

      HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

      Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

      Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      SteveChCh


      Hot Weather Complainer

        Great stuff watson - do you know the official time yet?  Could be sub 40.

         

        Just updating my race report, my official time was 1:33:05 and 6th place.

        PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

        Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon (trail) November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

        Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 11 (tempo/training run), Wellington Marathon June 27,  Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20

        watsonc123


          The course is on a winding road with bush and hills on either side, so it is hard on GPS.

           

          Hamish Carson had 10.09km, he is sharp, a 3:36 1500m runner, he did 29:5x today.  I totally missed he was coming to the finish as I turned around, so I was pretty close to crashing into him.

           

          I thought that Gaga was for failing to go sub 20 in a 5km.

           

          In a 5km race, I haven't gone sub 20 for over 4 years!  I have only raced a few in the last 4 years, in hot conditions and/or bad shape.

           

          I will pre warn Mark here, when I ran Wairarapa full, I had 42.0x km, although others had 42.2km plus.

          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

           

          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

          watsonc123


            Edit:

             

            Wairarapa, I had 42.13km.  Only other person I can find had 42.29km.

             

            My Garmin FR15 often reads short.  Piwi used to have one, and had the same issue.

            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

             

            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

            Marky_Mark_17


              The course is on a winding road with bush and hills on either side, so it is hard on GPS.

               

              Hamish Carson had 10.09km, he is sharp, a 3:36 1500m runner, he did 29:5x today.  I totally missed he was coming to the finish as I turned around, so I was pretty close to crashing into him.

               

              I thought that Gaga was for failing to go sub 20 in a 5km.

               

              In a 5km race, I haven't gone sub 20 for over 4 years!  I have only raced a few in the last 4 years, in hot conditions and/or bad shape.

               

              I will pre warn Mark here, when I ran Wairarapa full, I had 42.0x km, although others had 42.2km plus.

               

              Hamish Carson lapped me twice on the way to a 29:4x on the track last November! I must’ve improved by March this year when I only got lapped once by Cam Graves 😂

               

              Re Wairarapa, the organisers said it’s measured to Athletics NZ standards so that’ll do for me. No way I’m running another marathon until COVID is done with ... it’s just too much of a physical and mental investment to run the risk that the race might not go ahead!

              5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

              HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

              Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

              Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

              watsonc123


                You might have missed my second post.  I had Wairarapa at 42.13km.

                 

                Sydney in 2015, I had 600m elevation which was clearly wrong - more like 200m elevation.

                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                 

                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                JamesD


                JamesD

                  Congrats, watson!

                   

                  My legs felt a bit tired all week after my HMP track workout on Sunday.  Increasing my swimming distance may have contributed.  Tropical Storm Sally dumped a lot of rain on us Wednesday but didn’t do any real damage.  It does seem to have lowered temperatures, and nighttime lows are now below 70/21, so summer looks to be over.  Still no recent news about my last chance half option on October 31 - a few weeks ago the organizers’ Facebook page said they were still planning to hold it, but they only update once every few weeks.

                   

                  Sun - 8.7 track miles including 2x3@~HMGP (1st set 6:42, 2nd 6:59) w/3:50 rest 

                  Mon - 6.2 recovery

                  Tues - 10.6 slow

                  Weds - 37 minutes swimming

                  Thurs - 12 miles slow

                  Fri - 7.6 recovery

                  Sat - 45 minutes swimming

                   

                  Total - about 45.1 miles

                  12/26/52-week averages - 41/41/39 mpw



                  Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (April '20)

                  2021 Goals:  Stay healthy, 40+ mpw, Half<1:30; PR or 80% age-grade at some distance

                    James keep up the good work.

                     

                    Watson since I changed to the FR235 watch I dont seem to read short compared to others now. It always used to be 100m shorter than running mates over 10kms.

                     

                    I didn't feel motivated this week but have managed to run 85kms thanks to aborting this morning's fishing mission because of wind and meeting a mate for a jog which ended up been an easy 20kms for me.

                     

                    Weekly for period: From: 14/09/2020 To 20/09/2020

                    Date Name Distance
                    in km
                    Duration Avg Pace
                    per km
                    Elevation Gain
                    in m
                    14/09/2020 Morning Run 10.02 00:48:05 04:48 7
                    15/09/2020 Morning Run 10.06 00:47:10 04:41 5
                    16/09/2020 Lunch Run 10.01 00:52:56 05:17 284
                    17/09/2020 Morning Run 10.05 00:50:41 05:03 6
                    18/09/2020 Morning Run 10.02 00:49:31 04:57 8
                    19/09/2020 Morning Run 15.02 01:07:54 04:31 8
                    20/09/2020 Morning Run 20.01 01:42:23 05:07 178

                    Total distance: 85.18km

                    50+ PBs -  

                    5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                    10k 38.44 feb 6th strava run

                    " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                    Somewhere in between is about right "      

                     

                    Marky_Mark_17


                      Piwi - bummer that the wind ruined your fishing mission.  I was running up Upper Harbour Bridge this morning and noticed two people fishing out of kayaks under the bridge - was a perfect morning up here.  Anyways nice week.

                       

                      James - fingers crossed for your half.  Sometimes the legs take a while to recover from those big workouts.

                       

                      Me - Ended up being a middling sort of a week, trying to keep some volume in the legs with the goal marathon still 3 weeks away, but also trying not to overdo it as there is definitely a bit of fatigue there at the moment.  The post-tibial tendon niggle has now been joined by a peroneal tendon niggle, although weirdly the further I got into my long run this morning, the less I noticed it.  Anyway 3 weeks to go, so this week will probably be similar and then 2 weeks to taper.  After 10 months, I'm more or less over marathon training now so kind of looking forward to (finally) getting it done (I hope).

                       

                      I'm now convinced the universe is doing its absolute best to stop me running a marathon.  Today's new cases might delay changes in alert levels and prevent Rotorua going ahead full-stop (even though I can't run it).  Meanwhile on Friday there was an accident on the Harbour Bridge, which has led to a number of the lanes being temporarily closed while they assess and repair it.  It should be fine by the time Auckland Marathon is on (Nov 1), which is Plan D, but there's always the chance it's not and they have to cancel the race because of the bridge issues (albeit I suspect their backup plan would actually just be to two-lap the second half of the course).  Of course I'm hoping Plan C (Wairarapa Country Marathon) goes ahead fine and it doesn't go to Plan D, but the way this year has gone, who knows?

                       

                      Weekly for period: From: 14/09/2020 To 20/09/2020

                      Date Name Distance
                      in km
                      Duration Avg Pace
                      per km
                      Elevation Gain
                      in m
                      14/09/2020 D-Day 7.16 00:34:02 04:45 18
                      15/09/2020 Wairarapa Country Marathon it is, then 11.01 00:48:16 04:23 82
                      16/09/2020 Dodged the rain but not the wind 17.02 01:11:43 04:13 92
                      17/09/2020 Struggle street 14.41 01:06:49 04:38 173
                      19/09/2020 Ran 600’s and felt average... ran 200’s and felt great 🤷‍♂️ 13.10 00:50:38 03:52 34
                      20/09/2020 Long and cruisy 28.57 02:12:26 04:38 315

                      Total distance: 91.28km

                      5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                      HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                      Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

                      Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

                      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      JMac11


                      Taper Czar

                        The course certification is two ways. One, I'm spoiled because even small charity 5ks by me are certified. On the other hand, NZ is a joke. I said this before, but if I were a top athlete in a country like Mark, I'd band with other top athletes and demand that this got fixed. I'd be terrified if I were Mark about running a marathon and having to question whether it was legit.

                        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                         

                        Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                        Marky_Mark_17


                          The course certification is two ways. One, I'm spoiled because even small charity 5ks by me are certified. On the other hand, NZ is a joke. I said this before, but if I were a top athlete in a country like Mark, I'd band with other top athletes and demand that this got fixed. I'd be terrified if I were Mark about running a marathon and having to question whether it was legit.

                           

                          You do kind of have a point JMac.  I am quite lucky in that all of my PB's are either on the track (only way you get that wrong is if your lap counter screws up) or on courses that are certified (mostly because they've been current or previous National Championship courses, or are AIMS measured).

                           

                          National Road Champs in Auckland tends to really highlight this.  Lat year, plenty of runners from other regions ended up a minute or so slower on that (certified) course than in their regional races despite overall pretty good weather.  And yes it's got that niggly S bend but most other regional courses have their own issues (like Wellington has some u turns I think).  Conversely almost all of the Auckland runners were considerably faster at National Champs purely because the weather was much better than it was for Auckland Champs on the same course which was a super-windy day.

                          5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                          HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                          Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

                          Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

                          "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                          watsonc123


                            Damn, two new community cases today means Rotorua is very much a mabye for me.

                             

                            Piwi and Mark - nice weeks.

                             

                            James - nice week and good luck re the half.

                             

                            My week was very much a taper week.  Ended up missing Thursday running due to one of our cats had gone missing, lucklily we found her, but too late to run that evening.

                             

                            Weekly for period: From: 14/09/2020 To 20/09/2020

                            Date Name Distance
                            in km
                            Duration Avg Pace
                            per km
                            Elevation Gain
                            in m
                            14/09/2020 Evening Run 7.26 00:39:35 05:27 32
                            15/09/2020 Evening Run 7.54 00:40:28 05:22 24
                            16/09/2020 Evening Run - Incl. Tempo 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th km 11.64 00:55:36 04:47 29
                            19/09/2020 Warm Up 2.49 00:11:05 04:27 14
                            19/09/2020 Wellington Road Champs 10km. Late Stopping Watch, Provisional Time 39:59 9.88 00:40:17 04:05 82
                            19/09/2020 Cool Down 1.15 00:06:18 05:29 10
                            20/09/2020 Afternoon Run 3.08 00:17:16 05:36 20
                            20/09/2020 Hamstring Prehab Work 0.00 01:00:00 00:00 0

                            Total distance: 43.04km

                            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                             

                            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                              Watson congrats on the 10k once again. You have got back to form really quickly.

                               

                              2 community cases not that bad is it ?

                               

                              I dug up an old photo from my 2014 marathon in Melbourne to confirm distance on my old Soleus gps watch. This was before Strava

                              50+ PBs -  

                              5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                              10k 38.44 feb 6th strava run

                              " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               

                              Marky_Mark_17


                                Watson / Piwi - the problem is those new community cases were from someone who had completed isolation in Christchurch.  So even with a good run of zero cases last week, the problem is now they need to contact trace and get on top of these new ones - which could include people outside Auckland (esp. Christchurch).  Depending how confident they feel about that, there is a chance that the levels across the country stay where they are until they're on top of this.  I'd say Rotorua is probably 50/50 now but you'll know tomorrow one way or another.

                                5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                                HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                                Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

                                Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

                                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"