Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 577 times)

    Good luck Steve I will definitely be following your progress so no slacking 

    Ditching the headphones is a good idea. I don't know any serious racers who wear headphones. You really want to be in the moment and feel everything going on around you with all your senses.

    50+ PBs -  

    5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

    10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

    Next races

    Mount Maunganui half 10k 28th nov 2020

    " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

    Somewhere in between is about right "      

     

    Marky_Mark_17


      Thanks Mark.  I know of a couple of people (overseas) who thought they had a sinus infection and it turned out to be Covid, but I assume you'll have been tested.

       

       

      I did have a test which came back negative albeit that was 10 days before I actually got sick.  I've had very limited social interactions over the past few weeks as I've been working from home and basically only going out for exercise and occasional chores like supermarket shopping, plus my symptoms don't really line up with Covid.  Fair question, but I think the odds are really low!

       

      Queenstown half's start line is a bit of an inconvenience as it's literally in the middle of the countryside.  Not a lot to do to kill time other than sit around!  I'm with Piwi on not wearing headphones.  I only wear them for long runs now.  For races I think it's much better to be in the moment and headphones can be a bit of a distraction.

      5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

      HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

      Last race: Wairarapa Country Marathon, 11 Oct, 2:41:41 (PB)

      Up next: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov (I HOPE!)

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      JMac11


      Taper Czar

        Good luck Steve I will definitely be following your progress so no slacking 

        Ditching the headphones is a good idea. I don't know any serious racers who wear headphones. You really want to be in the moment and feel everything going on around you with all your senses.

         

        There is also a dirrect correlation with your seriousness and the length of your shorts. If you are not in 3 inch shorts or tights, you are a hobby jogger

        5K: 16:42 (9/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

         

        Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

        zebano


           

          There is also a dirrect correlation with your seriousness and the length of your shorts. If you are not in 3 inch shorts or tights, you are a hobby jogger

           

          As long as you don't wear shorts over tights. That's just silly.

          1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 45:24 (2017), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Mary - 3:37:17 (2018)

            I totally won't wear short shorts. I'd rather be viewed as a hobby jogger.

            Remember the guy whose package dropped out in the closing stages of a marathon. He was unaware and just kept on going. Google it 

            50+ PBs -  

            5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

            10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

            Next races

            Mount Maunganui half 10k 28th nov 2020

            " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

            Somewhere in between is about right "      

             


            Glute Force

              I totally won't wear short shorts. I'd rather be viewed as a hobby jogger.

              Remember the guy whose package dropped out in the closing stages of a marathon. He was unaware and just kept on going. Google it 

               

              I don't need to google that. Stuff like that is bookmarked. I was deeply impressed. My blood would have been circulating in my feet after 42k of torture.

              JMac11


              Taper Czar

                Piwi shared that video a few years ago. I'll never watch that again.

                 

                The movement does seem to be towards tights though.

                5K: 16:42 (9/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                 

                Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                SteveChCh


                Hot Weather Complainer

                  It has dawned cool with some light rain and light winds - there’s a warning for severe gales but that should hold off until this afternoon. Pretty poor sleep but shouldn’t matter today. I have my ride sorted to the start so it is go time. I think I feel more excitement than nerves which is a good sign.

                   

                  One final listen to The Immortals by Kings of Leon, put on my short shorts and I’m out of here.

                  PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                  Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

                  Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Motorway Half-Marathon February 28 (tempo/training run), Christchurch Marathon April 11, South Island Half-Marathon August 1, Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20

                  JMac11


                  Taper Czar

                    Good luck Steve!

                    5K: 16:42 (9/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                     

                    Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                    zebano


                      Go get it Stever!

                      1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 45:24 (2017), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Mary - 3:37:17 (2018)

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        Heh, guess I'm not the only one with specific pre-race songs I like.  Mine have variously included "A Good Fire" by Clutch, "Supercharger" by Machine Head, "Mean Green Killing Machine" by Overkill and a bunch of others.

                        5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                        HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        Last race: Wairarapa Country Marathon, 11 Oct, 2:41:41 (PB)

                        Up next: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov (I HOPE!)

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        watsonc123


                          Good luck Steve.

                          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                           

                          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                          Marky_Mark_17


                            Just checked the results... looks like Steve ran 1:35.

                             

                            I know it's not the result he would've wanted, but I still reckon it's a slow course.  The winner Jack Moody ran 1:10 and he is a sub-15 5k guy.

                            5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                            HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                            Last race: Wairarapa Country Marathon, 11 Oct, 2:41:41 (PB)

                            Up next: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov (I HOPE!)

                            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                            Marky_Mark_17


                              Oh and in other good news I felt miles better this morning now those antibiotics are getting out of my system.  Managed a half-respectable track workout and felt good at the end.  Given the varying levels of soreness, sickness and general misery over the past 6 weeks, I can confidently say I'm not running another marathon.  Ever.

                               

                              Still no idea how next Saturday's HM is going to go.  I'll likely continue to improve over the next couple of days as the antibiotics clear out of my system.  I think anything sub-1:20 would be reasonable given my current (lack of) training and the potential for warm weather, but I'm just going to go on feel and see how it goes.  The next big goal is going to be to run something ludicrously fast at Southern Lakes HM next May.

                               

                              For the record, in case anyone is wondering this in the future:

                              I had Amoxycillin (penicillin-based) as the first round of antibiotics, running was not affected massively apart from legs feeling a bit sluggish (this was the same last time I took them too).

                              Doxycycline (which is a tetracycline) was the second round, that turned running to crap.  High heart rate, inability to sustain any sort of effort, not fun.  Don't know if it was just the doxycycline or the fact it was the second course of antibiotics but I'll be avoiding it if possible in the future.

                              FYI research also suggested avoiding any fluoroquinolone antibiotics as these have been linked with tendon issues in runners (particularly achilles issues).

                              5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                              HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                              Last race: Wairarapa Country Marathon, 11 Oct, 2:41:41 (PB)

                              Up next: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov (I HOPE!)

                              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              JoshWolf


                              Nothing special

                                [...] I can confidently say I'm not running another marathon.  Ever. in the foreseeable future.

                                 

                                 

                                FTFFY - keep in mind that some of us are following both the marathon and the HM thread . I like the corrected version better, because in my mind your HM PB and your marathon PB are so extremely out of line that you should not yet say "never again!"

                                 

                                Just for the record (and certainly not to start another discussion - I think I read everything you wrote on this topic): I think you've got inherent speed (as evidenced by your 3.000m time while being sick and in recovery mode from your marathon), you've got stamina (as evidenced by your HM PB), but you are maybe lacking those last few capillaries and mitochondria you'd need for an adequate marathon time and that you'd get from more slower longer runs. Even that 3.000m time (remember: while being sick and in recovery mode) indicates a faster marathon. Yes, the COVID-19-rollercoaster the weeks and months before certainly didn't help, but I can't believe that your ability to race long distances falls off the cliff between the HM and the M.

                                 

                                Me - on my way to the highest weekly mileage since ... (and still feling good, knock on wood)

                                PRs 50+: 400: 78,3 (1/20)  800: 2:50 (1/20)  3.000: 12:11 (6/19)  5.000 21:12 (6/19)

                                                10K: 45:18  (10/19, Against the wind)  HM: TBD

                                Goals for 2021: I think I can still 50+PR anywhere from 400 to 10K, but defining goals ain't easy at the moment. Staying injury free, I guess. PR in the HM?