Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 220 times)

dpschumacher


Making a comeback

    My body had sweet revenge on the long run....

    Dps - super strong week, I’m in awe of both the 8x800 on Tue and the tempo in Thu.

     

     

    2019 Goal: Run every day Goal: Get to 165 lbs Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020

    2020 Goals:

    5k:16:30

    HM: 1:18:00

    Marathon: 2:45:00

    Next Race: 3/14/2020 O'Gara's 8k

    JMac11


    Taper Czar

      Vaporfly - at this point, is a must in my opinion, unless you absolutely cannot wear that type of shoe because it doesn't fit your feet. I use 4MM drop shoes every day in training, and yet I race in them. You can't worry about the drop when you're only wearing them for a few races a year. You won't get injured from one single run: it's the cumulative impact of multiple runs in improper shoes. Other competitors will come out with shoes over the next few months, but until I see evidence otherwise, I will be running in them.

       

      Steve - when I said allowed, I meant allowed to enjoy myself, e.g. she was DD so I had a few extra beers while watching 

       

      Racing - Agree with Watson, you absolutely need to race more frequently to know how to race. That's why I'm racing this weekend: it's a rust buster. It serves two purposes: 1) are my training paces in line with my current fitness at this point? and 2) remembering what the pink unicorn looks like. For goal races, I always try to race 3 times: one rust buster, one sharpening race, and then the goal race itself. For marathons, that's usually a 5K/10K about 10 weeks out from the race, and then a half marathon 3-5 weeks out.

      5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:05 (10/19)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

       

      Next Race: NYC Half (3/15/20)

      darkwave


      Mother of Cats

        Cosigning all of the above on the need to RACE.

         

        In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  Using races as workouts does not.

        Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

         

        And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

        JMac11


        Taper Czar

          In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  

           

          This is gold, never heard it phrased this way. Should be a rule on the front page.

          5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:05 (10/19)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

           

          Next Race: NYC Half (3/15/20)

          CommanderKeen


          Aspiring Hobby Jogger

            In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  Using races as workouts does not.

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            5k: 18:25 10/19 (solo track TT) │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:24:16 11/19 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

             

            Upcoming Races:

            Vacavillage - 3/1

            Marky_Mark_17


              Cosigning all of the above on the need to RACE.

               

              In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  Using races as workouts does not.

               

              I completely agree with this as well - very well articulated Darkwave.  I also agree with JMac's suggestion that it should be a rule on the front page!

              5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:58 (Nov-19) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

              HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

              Last race: Bays Night of 5's 5000m, 20 Dec, 15:39 (PB)

              Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 4 Apr

              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

              zebano


                Cosigning all of the above on the need to RACE.

                 

                In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  Using races as workouts does not.

                 

                That is beautiful. I think I've answer incorrectly more often than I've answer correctly, but those times I got it right... those are etched into my memory (and are almost all PRs).

                Elizabeth78


                Recovery Phenom

                  I don't normally post in this thread but I am shooting for a sub 1:30 half at some point this year, and I couldn't resist a good weather conversation!

                   

                  I think everyone has their own point at which the cold will start to negatively affect performance. I find my performance suffers when it creeps above 50, but I have raced really well in 20 degree weather. My first BQ was 25 degrees, and my 10K PR (which I haven't been able to beat in 3 years) was in 20 degree weather. I would prefer 21 over 51, unless it was really windy. All of my current PRs were set when it was 35 or colder. I vote for winter year round, or maybe I need to move to Maine.

                   

                  I have yet to figure out what "too cold" is for me but I ran a race with darkwave once that was only 12 degrees, and that was too cold.

                  26.2 x 26 (3:15:34 PR)

                  13.1 x 33 (1:30:58 PR)

                  Author of the book Boston Bound

                  Up Next: Boston Marathon 2020

                  SteveChCh


                  Hot Weather Complainer

                    darkwave:  Nice, you win the internet today.  When I'm having a tough race, particularly my last 2, I have had times when I've asked myself "Do you want to ease it back to reduce the pain level?"  Dangerous question and thankfully I haven't answered "yes" yet.

                     

                    Elizabeth: Welcome, I feel like this is the year that the most members of the thread ever go under 1:30 so you're in the right place.  I agree on the weather, give me cold over hot (or even moderately warm) any day.

                    PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                    Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

                    2020 Planned Races:  Christchurch 10km Series (Park), February 2 (42:23 - HOT), City 2 Surf (14km), March 22, Christchurch Half-Marathon May 31, South Island Half-Marathon August 2, Cherry Blossom 10km September 13

                      It's a 3 miler for the local track club. An 18:15 last year would finish around 20th overall. Hoping to use that as a way to push me hard enough to shock myself.

                       

                       

                       

                      Rakers - 7x800 is super impressive, you’ve got that 3 mile target locked unless something bizarre happens.

                       

                       

                       

                      I'm definitely 100% human. Still laugh. Sometimes at things that people don't expect me to. Smile

                       

                       

                      I'm sure Pastors are allowed a sense of humour Watson.

                       

                       

                      JMac11


                      Taper Czar

                        I don't normally post in this thread but I am shooting for a sub 1:30 half at some point this year, and I couldn't resist a good weather conversation!

                         

                        I think everyone has their own point at which the cold will start to negatively affect performance. I find my performance suffers when it creeps above 50, but I have raced really well in 20 degree weather. My first BQ was 25 degrees, and my 10K PR (which I haven't been able to beat in 3 years) was in 20 degree weather. I would prefer 21 over 51, unless it was really windy. All of my current PRs were set when it was 35 or colder. I vote for winter year round, or maybe I need to move to Maine.

                         

                        I have yet to figure out what "too cold" is for me but I ran a race with darkwave once that was only 12 degrees, and that was too cold.

                         

                        Welcome. A bit of a random question - any chance you ran CIM this year? I feel like I saw someone that looked like you at the expo (I recognized you as I used to lurk on multiple RWOL threads), but wasn't really sure so didn't want to be a creep.

                        5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:05 (10/19)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                         

                        Next Race: NYC Half (3/15/20)

                        Elizabeth78


                        Recovery Phenom

                           

                          Welcome. A bit of a random question - any chance you ran CIM this year? I feel like I saw someone that looked like you at the expo (I recognized you as I used to lurk on multiple RWOL threads), but wasn't really sure so didn't want to be a creep.

                           

                          Why yes! And no surprise, CIM was too warm/humid for me so I did not have a good race.  How was your race? I was a huge RWOL person back in the 2008-2010 time frame. This was me at the expo:

                           

                          26.2 x 26 (3:15:34 PR)

                          13.1 x 33 (1:30:58 PR)

                          Author of the book Boston Bound

                          Up Next: Boston Marathon 2020

                          Elizabeth78


                          Recovery Phenom

                            Cosigning all of the above on the need to RACE.

                             

                            In every race, there is a point where you ask yourself a question, and then answer it.  Racing regularly lets you practice answering that question correctly.  Using races as workouts does not.

                             

                            I agree- you win the Internet today. This is so well articulated.

                            26.2 x 26 (3:15:34 PR)

                            13.1 x 33 (1:30:58 PR)

                            Author of the book Boston Bound

                            Up Next: Boston Marathon 2020

                            SteveChCh


                            Hot Weather Complainer

                              Vaporfly - at this point, is a must in my opinion, unless you absolutely cannot wear that type of shoe because it doesn't fit your feet. I use 4MM drop shoes every day in training, and yet I race in them. You can't worry about the drop when you're only wearing them for a few races a year. You won't get injured from one single run: it's the cumulative impact of multiple runs in improper shoes. Other competitors will come out with shoes over the next few months, but until I see evidence otherwise, I will be running in them.

                               

                              I've done some googling and there are some examples of people getting injured from a single run.  I don't know if I'm willing to lose a month or more of training to save 30-60 seconds in a race.  And flavio makes a good point too.  But clearly I want to get the best result possible.  I'm a bit torn on this one.

                              PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                              Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

                              2020 Planned Races:  Christchurch 10km Series (Park), February 2 (42:23 - HOT), City 2 Surf (14km), March 22, Christchurch Half-Marathon May 31, South Island Half-Marathon August 2, Cherry Blossom 10km September 13

                              Elizabeth78


                              Recovery Phenom

                                Sorry- I am posting a lot lately. I got an injury from wearing the Vaporfly Next% during CIM.  I did not have the injury at the start line, but after I finished my arch was on fire. Even though I had worn them without issue in two half marathons (and a 16 mile long run), the full marathon was too much. My physical therapist has two theories:

                                 

                                1. The 8mm drop + the bounce of the shoe caused compression in the tendon

                                2. The shoe was digging into my arch and irritating it

                                 

                                In any event, due to the posterior tibialis tendonitis, I had to sacrifice about 100 training miles in January. Totally not worth it. However, my physical therapist told me that if I gradually introduced the shoe into my training 4 weeks prior to my next marathon, there would be less of a chance of injury because my foot would be used to it.

                                26.2 x 26 (3:15:34 PR)

                                13.1 x 33 (1:30:58 PR)

                                Author of the book Boston Bound

                                Up Next: Boston Marathon 2020