Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 641 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    DP - welcome! I like the Calvin and Hobbes avatar.  It's cool to see you have gotten back into running, I know another guy locally who has got back into it this year after a couple years off and with some training under his belt he has been putting up some really good times.  Hopefully you can pick up some good tips from everyone on here, I've learned a lot from the guys here and on the previous forum in the 4 years I've been running.

     

    My family always had Alsatians growing up, awesome dogs.  I'd love to get one but lifestyle makes it a bit tough at the moment.  Ideally a German short-haired pointer because then I'll have a reliable running buddy!

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

    Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      Hi Dan. Nice German name. I love MN for that and ice fishing.

       

      I am always amazed how fast our US friends put on weight and are able to shed it. Too many good restaurants I assume. Well done though, thats impressive. And good luck with your goals in 2019!

      HM: 1:47 (9/20) I FM: 3:53:11 (9/23)

       

      2024 Goals: run a FM & HM + stay healthy!

      dpschumacher


      5 months til Masters

        Viele dänke. Ich war schon oft in der Schweiz. I am sitting all day and with a kid I was eating whatever was easy and close. The biggest issue was that I was eating as though I was running 15 miles a day without actually doing the running.

        2023 Goals

        Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

        10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

        5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

        Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

        Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

         

        2024 Goals

        Sub 2:37 Marathon

        Sub 1:15 Half

        Sub 34 10k

        Sub 16 5k

         

         

        JMac11


        RIP Milkman

          America is a nation of processed food. It requires a lot of self control to not gain a lot of weight. The food itself also has no real fruits and vegetables, whereas a lot of other cultures incorporate a lot more of it. If I didn't run 60 miles per week, I would definitely be putting on the pounds.

           

          And with that, happy July 4!

          5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

           

           

          Marky_Mark_17


            Story in the paper this morning about a 70-year old who got busted for cheating. Reminded me of the legendary story of the Michigan Dentist, who committed one of the most systematic, brazen and actually quite impressive marathon cheating campaigns you will ever see.

            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

            * Net downhill course

            Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

            Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

            JMac11


            RIP Milkman

              Mark - I've been following that letsrun thread since the beginning. That place can be pretty bad sometimes, but man if you are cheating, they will find you. There was a guy on there with all these security camera photos that nailed the guy. It's a really fascinating story when you get all the background.

              5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

               

               

              JamesD


              JamesD

                James - I think you should get some speed work around Tuesday. Doesn't need to a hard effort, but some speed work would be a good idea.

                 

                 

                 

                Watson - Thanks, that was the plan. Leading up to races, I try to do my last long run the Friday 2 weeks before, 1200s the Monday 12 days before, and half a mile or a mile at 10Kish pace two days before. (I've had bad results running strides the day before a race and also when I ran strides three times in the five days before.) This time I was hoping to run several short hills the Monday before, but with my hamstring iffy & my legs tired, I thought it'd be safer to just run 4x200. Went ok, with splits of 41.1, 39, 39.6, and around 38, and only minor hamstring soreness the next couple of days. Today's half-mile tempo was also ok, so we'll see how things go Saturday. DB - Welcome! Mark - If you want more details about the cheater, read the amazing almost-300-page thread on LetsRun.com's message board. It started with an apparently admiring area runner reporting on Frank Meza breaking the M70+ world record with a time around 2:53. The record holder, the late Ed Whitlock, is a very respected figure on that board, and the idea that a stocky, overdressed, relative unknown had broken one of his records led to some scrutiny. While he seemed to cross timing mats, he was in very few pictures. He also didn't show up on video of one section of the course, though he said he had stopped to look for a bathroom (while running a WR, of course) and must have gotten back on the course a little later. People with good programming skills wrote programs to look for pictures from several of his races with pixels containing his clothing colors, and there were several showing him loitering by the side of the courses and apparently jumping in just before timing mats. Eventually someone found a picture of him on a bicycle at the San Francisco marathon a few years ago. It now seems certain that he has been cheating in a couple of dozen races over the last decade. Anyway, if you have several hours and want to be impressed by how hard runners will work to catch cheaters (and how a few will defend them against all evidence), read the whole thread.

                Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

                '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

                watsonc123


                  With all the camera's, facial recognition software etc., it's rather hard to cheat and win or break records in a big race.  Plus it's a bit suspect when a dedicated runner also doesn't have GPS.

                  PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                   

                  40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                   

                  2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                   

                  2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    One of the benefits about NZ being a small place is that most of the quicker runners know each other - if not personally, then certainly by name.  If anyone new appeared and started throwing up quick times, or if anyone got a lot faster in a short period of time, that'd get noticed.

                     

                    Case in point - of the top 20 finishers at the Waterfront half (probably the second-deepest half in the country now after Christchurch), there's only 6 that I didn't know, either by name, mutual following on Strava, or because they're a friend/clubmate/acquaintance (and bear in mind that I'm new on the scene in relative terms as well compared to athletes that have been around for 10+ years).

                     

                    edit: I should also have mentioned that any times (faster than the minimum qualifying standard), run by club-registered athletes, in major events, end up on Athletics NZ public records, which takes even more of the guesswork out of it.

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                    Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    JamesD


                    JamesD

                      With all the camera's, facial recognition software etc., it's rather hard to cheat and win or break records in a big race.  Plus it's a bit suspect when a dedicated runner also doesn't have GPS.

                       

                      Sorry for the formatting trouble on my last post.

                       

                       

                      I may be showing my age, but I don't have a GPS and don't understand why so many runners consider them essential.  I know how long my regular routes are, and if I'm on a new route, it's for an easy/steady run where just by knowing the time I can be pretty sure how far I've gone within 4% (i.e., if I think I'm hitting my normal easy pace of around 8:20, I'm pretty sure I'm between 8:10 and 8:30).  I don't need more precision than that, and from what I gather, GPSs aren't all that precise anyway.  The races I run all have mile markers, which is all the distance information I need.  To each their own, I guess.

                      Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

                      '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

                        Welcome DP! hi everybody!

                        I agree with you JamesD, I haven't used the GPS in many years, until this February my wife got me one. I am not using it much to track my mileage or speed, but I do look at the Heath beat Smile

                        it's a good took, but it is possible to train well without.

                         

                        Sorry as usual I have periods in which I do not post much. Last week I managed 40 miles with a few intervals but was recovering from the track and this week I am trying to get ready to yet another track experience (high and long jump, javelin and 400 Hurdles if I can - but I am not sure I have done enough intervals and sprints to do that...)

                         

                        my HM preparation will start again seriously next week, with a sub 40 in 10 K at the targeted at the beginning of September, preparing for a sub 90 in Belfast at the end of September.

                        Hopefully I will manage the training although I will be travelling a bit as usual (going to Italy on the 7th, for 5 weeks, working from there. I will then spend a week in North Carolina on the 22nd of July and a week on holiday the first week of August).

                         

                        have  a great weekend!

                        Marco

                        PRs since re-started in 2013:

                        5km: 19:43 (Belfast park run Sep-16) | 10km: 40:16 (Belfast Lagan side 10K Sep-18) 

                        HM: 1:30:09 (Belfast city Half Marathon, September-18) | FM: 3:25:05 (official chip time Belfast city Marathon, May-19, marathon was 0.3/4 longer, original time 3:27:20 for 26.5/6...)

                         

                        Upcoming races:  

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                        watsonc123


                          If James pulls off a sub 1:20, I am calling him out

                          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                           

                          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                           

                          2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                           

                          2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                          dpschumacher


                          5 months til Masters

                            Ran a tempo on the course today. It is more or less a loop around the lake (11.1 miles)...the race starts with a loop In town which adds the other 2 miles to the hhalf.i ran the first 2.3 miles with my dad (age 66) and then ran the rest brisk but steady. The course is pretty hilly 8 hills/valleys that change 100 feet from bottom to top.

                             

                            Mile splits: warm up (8:33, 8:06, 7:28,) 7:26, 718, 728, 712 727 730 724 733. In 84 degrees with a heat index (very humid) of 95 I feel pretty good about it.  This is no flat course like I run along the river in Minneapolis so I will need to be in sub 1:25:00 shape to break 90 minutes in the half in august.

                            2023 Goals

                            Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

                            10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

                            5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

                            Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

                            Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

                             

                            2024 Goals

                            Sub 2:37 Marathon

                            Sub 1:15 Half

                            Sub 34 10k

                            Sub 16 5k

                             

                             

                            Marky_Mark_17


                              Marco / James - it's pretty impressive when someone runs without GPS consistently.  I'm pretty reliant on it, at least for workouts.  I remember running Taupo Half Marathon last year, ran about 4km with a young guy who didn't run with GPS, he was around a 1:17 guy so I guess it shows you don't need GPS to get fast.

                               

                              Me - pretty satisfying week, volume was lighter after building for the last 3 weeks which enabled me to hit a really satisfying workout this morning (Sunday).  The last couple of weeks have been a little uneven, where I'd feel good on some runs but a bit sluggish on others, but this week was the first time I've felt really consistently good in a while.  Might've been the extra rest day - Monday was planned but I ran Friday instead of Saturday and then just didn't get time to get a weights workout in on Sat.  Anyway this morning's workout was 2 x 15 min @ 10k effort with 5 min recovery in between.  I was aiming at 3:24/km which would be 34:00 flat pace.  Didn't quite get there at 3:26/km and 3:25/km average but was pretty close and the loop I was running isn't flat either.

                               

                              Anyway according to Smashrun this is the first time I've ever hit 4 consecutive 50 mile / 80km + weeks so that was kinda cool too.

                               

                              M: rest day (planned)

                              T: 12km easy

                              W: 13.1km w/ 1km efforts (moderate, moderate, hard)

                              Th: 16.5km w/ hill sprints and flat sprints

                              F: 16.8km w/ 4 x 4 min moderate / 1 min hard / 1:30 recovery

                              S: rest day (unplanned but no time for weights)

                              S: 22km incl. 2 x 15 min @ 10k effort

                              Total: 80.4km

                              3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                              10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                              * Net downhill course

                              Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                              Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              Marky_Mark_17


                                Hugely impressive run from Zane Robertson this morning, 2:08:19 on the Gold Coast to break his twin brother’s NZ marathon record. Caught the last few km’s, great finish by the Japanese runner to take out the race given the headwind and warm conditions for the last few km.

                                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                                * Net downhill course

                                Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                                Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"