Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 641 times)

    The only time I had cramp in a race was around 30kms into my first marathon and my hamstring cramped briefly. I thought uh oh Im in trouble now but it went away and I was able to finish strong.

    Ive had the odd bit of cramp over the years not running related but I dont remember it been sore the next day.

    I guess its like a muscle strain so take it easy for a few days.

    55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

    " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

    Somewhere in between is about right "      

     

    Marky_Mark_17


      JMac - doh!  Those ones in the middle of the night can be savage.  I only generally get them in summer so I'm sure it's something to do with electrolyte levels.  Anyway, I've had some nasty ones and my leg still had a sore spot the next day, but weirdly I didn't notice it all when running.

       

      I used to cop some really good calf cramps playing hockey, generally if it was really late in a game and I'd been running a lot, I'd lunge out for a big tackle and bam!  It scared the hell out of me the first time as I thought I'd done some serious damage and then I discovered I could just run it off.

      3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

      10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

      * Net downhill course

      Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

      Up next: Runway5, 4 May

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      dpschumacher


      3 months til Masters

        Ran the course of the 15k this Sunday tonight. With the previous storms and flooding it will be an english cross country race. The paths were like running on a loose sandy beach with lots of logs across the path....so unless they are out there with chainsaws in the next few days....this race will be fun...but may end with me running 7 min miles.

        2023 Goals

        Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

        10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

        5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

        Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

        Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

         

        2024 Goals

        Sub 2:37 Marathon

        Sub 1:15 Half

        Sub 34 10k

        Sub 16 5k

         

         

        CommanderKeen


        Cobra Commander Keen

          Quiet times around here!

           

           

          Looking forward to possibly making the local running club group run tomorrow morning.

          I'm going back and forth between to options for a sub-3 marathon attempt early next year: Houston on January 19, and Cowtown (in Ft. Worth, TX) on March 1. Houston is flatter (supposed to be about 75 seconds faster, all else being equal), but it's twice as far away (~7+ hour drive) and I'd basically have to roll from my fall HM directly into further training for it. Cowtown isn't quite as fast, but it's closer and would give me more time to prep - even with a week of downtime after my HM if I wanted/needed it. I may do some asking around if I can make the group run. I know there are locals who have done both, and maybe I could even find someone to drive/split a room with to help cut travel costs.

          5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22

           

          Upcoming Races:

           

          OKC Memorial 5k - April 27

          Bun Run 5k - May 4

           

          dpschumacher


          3 months til Masters

            I have heard good things about cowtown FWIW. Had a friend run it and thinks it is well run event.

            2023 Goals

            Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

            10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

            5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

            Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

            Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

             

            2024 Goals

            Sub 2:37 Marathon

            Sub 1:15 Half

            Sub 34 10k

            Sub 16 5k

             

             

            cc4life07


            Wind is not my friend.

              Had one of my tougher 2 days for running yesterday and today. Got a 4 mile tempo yesterday (6:11 pace) and some 200s which equaled 7 miles. Then an earlier morning 12 miler before I leave on vacation later this afternoon. Heading to the mountains for a couple days so I’ll probably just run on treadmill. Then home for a day for a meeting and then to the beach for a couple days.

              "Current" PRs

              5K - 18:00 (4/19)   |   HM - 1:19:28 (4/22)

              Next Race: A 5K of some sort (Goal: Sub 17:30)

              JMac11


              RIP Milkman

                Alright, I'll chime in since it's quiet.

                 

                My calf is still very tight, but the direct pain is gone from the cramp, so that's good.

                 

                Watson gave me an idea: my legs have felt especially fresh this summer the day after taking a day off. Normally, I run the day before a race, but I wanted to try giving a full 48 hours between running to see how I do in a race. We'll see if it leaves me feeling off or fresh. Taking the day off before the race also allowed me to run more mileage, as I could do a 9 mile run 2 days before a race but would never run 9 miles the day before a race. Allows me to train "through" this race and still get into the upper 60's in mileage for the week while also giving me a mini-mini-taper into the race.

                 

                Kiwi points still forecasted right around 70 for this race, which is unfortunate. Sub 17 is going to be tough in those conditions, but I'll do my best! Either way, PR should be in order unless something really catastrophic happens.

                5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                 

                 

                  Jmac good idea you may as well try it. Get some strides in just before the start and you will be all systems go. Sounds hot but your PR has been there since I was running sub 18 back in 2014. It needs to go ! Good luck.

                   

                  Cc4 very nice tempo once again. Vacation is a time I seem to run more. It's a great way to see a new place nice and early before the family wake up. Enjoy.

                   

                  Schumacher don't worry about your time on that course just run by effort. Good luck.

                   

                  Keen looks like 2 nice options for you. Sub 3 is so close for you now. Your training is excellent. Sub 3 for me was the highlight of my running especially as I only made it by 30 secs although it was my 1st attempt 

                  I should be an OKC supporter for at least another year 

                   

                  I got in another sub 20 5k at the end of a 6 mile yesterday.

                  I ran the 1st 4kms conservatively around 4 min/km and put in an effort last km as it was a segment and got that one down to 3.39. That last one had some 5k burn.

                  55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                  " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                  watsonc123


                    JMac - good luck.  What time of day is the race?  If it is early morning or evening, then the solar effect will be much less.  Humidity?  If low sun and low-moderate humidity, 70 Farernheit will be ok for a 5k.

                    PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                     

                    40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                     

                    2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                     

                    2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                    JMac11


                    RIP Milkman

                      JMac - good luck.  What time of day is the race?  If it is early morning or evening, then the solar effect will be much less.  Humidity?  If low sun and low-moderate humidity, 70 Farernheit will be ok for a 5k.

                       

                      The dew point (kiwi point as it is known here) is 70F. That's the problem. I've discovered also that the actual temperature has less of an impact on me once I'm heat acclimated. I've run on very dry 90 degree days and felt pretty good, and run on very humid 75 degree days and felt awful. I've figured out that for me, TDP doesn't exactly capture it, although I know it's pretty close.

                       

                      Put another way, 75 Temp plus 75 Dew Point would be horrible conditions, but 90 temp plus 60 dew point would be bad, but not as horrible.

                       

                      70F and low humidity would be amazing at this point for me. I might even get a bit cold!

                       

                      Training for a 5K this summer has shown me how foolish it is to train for marathons in July/August here in the US. You're just wasting your time.

                      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                       

                       

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        JMac - good luck (for the weather and the race).

                         

                        I’m off on holiday to Wanaka with the family for a few days tomorrow. Looking forward to running down there, we are going up the mountain as well but not sure I’ll get a lot of snowboarding in because most of it will probably be spent helping our daughter on the beginner slopes.

                        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        * Net downhill course

                        Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                        Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        watsonc123


                          Bad weather in marathon training really effects things.  My 2015 marathon was early winter, and Autumn was almost perfect, mild and only a few days of heavy rain.  My 2017 marathon was mid spring, and winter was awful with so much torrential rain.

                           

                          This winter has been really good.  But I don't think I would go for a spring marathon again.

                          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                           

                          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                           

                          2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                           

                          2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                          dpschumacher


                          3 months til Masters

                            Just got an email from 15k. They cleaned up paths and removed tree and moved part of the course on to a small paved road. So in conclusion....my "who knows" prediction on time stands.

                             

                            In fairness, it has been a crazy wet year in MN and the organizers typically put on amazing events for small but high quality races.  They must have been out there for 10 hours with chainsaws and rakes the last 2 days to clean it up.

                            2023 Goals

                            Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

                            10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

                            5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

                            Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

                            Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

                             

                            2024 Goals

                            Sub 2:37 Marathon

                            Sub 1:15 Half

                            Sub 34 10k

                            Sub 16 5k

                             

                             

                            watsonc123


                              DP - good luck.  So MN is Minnesota?  I presume its treadmill winter?  Do you have your own or do you go to a gym?  Or you borderline insane and run outside all year?  Several years ago on Runners World Online, we had a guy who ran outside all year round in Montreal.

                              PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                               

                              40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                               

                              2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                               

                              2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                                Watson/Mark I bought some New Balance zantes today at Rebels $99. My first foray into New Balance. Pretty light and good reviews. Probably more of an uptempo shoe than a trainer. 6mm drop which is the low end for me.

                                55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                                " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                                Somewhere in between is about right "