Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 423 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    JMac - nice week even despite the niggles.  The clicking sounds like there was a bit of a kneecap tracking issue as well?

     

    Me - reasonable sort of week, for a post-race week.  Last year my legs were trashed for about a week after Coatesville HM... this year wasn't nearly as bad but there was still a little bit of fatigue lurking around.  Had a reasonable long-ish workout on Saturday but the legs were a little tired for Sunday's LR so I cut probably 10-15 minutes off.  The upside was I actually discovered a route home out of the Wairau Valley and over the hill which doesn't suck nearly as much as the other options.

     

    M: 5.8km recovery

    T: weights

    W: 13.4km with some short efforts

    T: 11.1km easy

    F: weights

    S: 21km incl. longer efforts

    S: 25.5km long run

    Total: 76.8km

     

    With wifey away the next couple of weeks, I'm gonna have to run at slightly later times.  It's probably good from a heat acclimatisation point of view but I'm gonna have to be a bit flexible about length and intensity of runs, so we'll see how it goes.

    5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 34:08 (Sep-18) HM: 1:14:25 (Jun-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

    Last race: Christchurch Half Marathon, 2 Jun, 1:14:25 (PB)

    Up next: Auckland Road Race Champs (10km), 25 Aug

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    JamesD


    JamesD

      Had an ok tempo on Monday, my first one of 5 miles.  6:49/mile was a decent pace, though the last couple of miles, when I sped up, were a bit harder than tempo effort.  Felt sluggish the rest of the week; not sure whether I was tired or whether allergies were affecting me, but I cut back my volume a little.  I need to decide in the next couple of days whether to run a March 2 half or a March 9 one; would prefer March 2 as long as the weather cooperates.  Right now one of the forecasting companies predicts rain on March 2 & the other sun, so I’ll wait to see if they converge one way or the other.

       

      Sun - off

      Mon - 8.1 miles including 5.1 tempo @ 6:49/mile

      Tues - 5 recovery

      Weds - 6.2 easy & sluggish

      Thurs - off

      Fri - 9.1 medium-long

      Sat - 4.7 recovery

       

      Total - 33.1 miles

      12-week average - 32 mpw

      Post-1987 PRs:  5K 19:12 (2017); 10K 40:43 (2016); Half 1:30:14 (March '19)

      2019 Goals: NO INJURIES, 30+ mpw, Half<1:30, 10K<40, 5K<19

      M_M_C


        @Jmac i got you dog http://www.triggerpoints.net/

        3K: 8:29.12 (2017)     5K: 14:56.59 (2016)     8K: 25:27 (2016)     15K: 54:46.2 (2019)     FM: 2:58:48 (2019)

        JMac11


          MMC - big fan of trigger point therapy. I use an electronic massage on all my niggles now (bought it about a month ago), or rolling it out hard. When I first started running, I had a bunch of stuff in my hips and glutes, always thought I was injured. However, after getting TP needle therapy, they all went away.

          5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 35:59 (3/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

           

          Next Race: Breathe for Britt 5K (6/29/19) 

          Marky_Mark_17


            MMC - big fan of trigger point therapy. I use an electronic massage on all my niggles now (bought it about a month ago), or rolling it out hard. When I first started running, I had a bunch of stuff in my hips and glutes, always thought I was injured. However, after getting TP needle therapy, they all went away.

             

            I initially read this as ‘massage on all my nipples’. Then the ROFLcopter crashed into the LOLcano.

            5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 34:08 (Sep-18) HM: 1:14:25 (Jun-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

            Last race: Christchurch Half Marathon, 2 Jun, 1:14:25 (PB)

            Up next: Auckland Road Race Champs (10km), 25 Aug

            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

            flavio1980


            weight loss complainer

              MMC - welcome aboard once again. It’s great to have someone as fast as you here, I look forward to learning from you.

              A sub 15 5K is a great result.

              Do you run with a team or by yourself?

              Do you have a coach?

               

              Jmac - Have you considered paying a visit to a physiotherapist to try to diagnose what you have?

              Not a doctor, a doctor will tell you to take anti inflammatory pills and that you should stop running for 2 months.

              Rather a PT with experience diagnosing running issues. They should be able to pinpoint the actual root cause of your issues and provide a remediation plan.

               

              James - that’s a great tempo. You’ve been very consistent with your running, keep it up!

               

              Mark -

              “I initially read this as ‘massage on all my nipples’.”

              “ Then the ROFLcopter crashed into the LOLcano.”

              Such a dad joke, but I must confess I giggled.

               

              Me - 50km for the week, on the rebound from 10 days off due to a nasty cold.

              M: Functional training

              T: 4x2000 with 2 min standing rest. Planned was 7:50 per rep. Actual splits: 7:58, 8:11, 8:06, 8:24

              W: 8ez

              T: 20x (1 min at 5:00/km + 1 min at 3:40/km). Roughly 200m in one minute followed by 260m in one minute. Nailed it!

              F: Functional training

              S: 12K @ 4:31 - roughly my MP right now

              S: 6ez

               

              This week I paid a visit to a local famous physiotherapist. He's worked with several professional sports team and is known to be an expert diagnostician.

              I've asked him to check both my right arm injury (which I have since a failed movement during a Turkish Get up Back in October last year.

              He identified it as a tendinopathy on the biceps (the long one that attaches to the shoulder). The root cause is a tight pectoral muscle, which limits my backwards arm mobility.

              Treatment is stretching the pectoral muscle and work on shoulder mobility.

               

              I've also asked him to diagnose my lack of dorsiflexion on the left side.

              On the dorsiflexion lunge test, seen below, the minimum required is roughly 12.5cm (5in) on both sides, and I have 9cm on the left side.

              That limits my movement when I step on the ground and makes me run slightly to the right side. It seems to cause a lot of the niggles I have on the left calf, hamstring and glutes.

              He found the root cause to be tight muscles on the back (due to sitting around too much), but also complete lack of foot flexibility. My foot is very arched and is very rigid (so many "that's what she said" jokes in this paragraph ).

              Treatment is to stretch the back muscles and strengthen the tibial muscles. As for the rigid foot, the solution is to be born again 

              PRs: 1500m 4:57 3000 10:34 - Next up: chase a new 1500m PR

              M_M_C


                That’s pretty hardcore, I stick to either lax or tennis balls

                 

                MMC - big fan of trigger point therapy. I use an electronic massage on all my niggles now (bought it about a month ago), or rolling it out hard. When I first started running, I had a bunch of stuff in my hips and glutes, always thought I was injured. However, after getting TP needle therapy, they all went away.

                3K: 8:29.12 (2017)     5K: 14:56.59 (2016)     8K: 25:27 (2016)     15K: 54:46.2 (2019)     FM: 2:58:48 (2019)

                M_M_C


                  I ran D3 in college, but since graduating I’ve been doing my own thing. I meet up with people occasionally on weekends, but I train mostly on my own

                   

                  MMC - welcome aboard once again. It’s great to have someone as fast as you here, I look forward to learning from you.

                  A sub 15 5K is a great result.

                  Do you run with a team or by yourself?

                  Do you have a coach?

                   

                  3K: 8:29.12 (2017)     5K: 14:56.59 (2016)     8K: 25:27 (2016)     15K: 54:46.2 (2019)     FM: 2:58:48 (2019)

                  JMac11


                    Mark - with your wife away, do you run with your daughter? Or is someone home that takes care of the kid? Asking these questions because eventually we may try for kids and just wondering how all the parents out there keep up their running so much.

                     

                    Flavio - as you may have heard, healthcare in America is crap. I’d have to go see a doctor first before seeing a PT, which is total crap because I agree with your assessment. I’ve never found doctors to be useful, but PTs have taught me so much. You’re right that there probably is something wrong in the entire chain. Your personal example proves that, would love to get that assessment!

                    5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 35:59 (3/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

                     

                    Next Race: Breathe for Britt 5K (6/29/19) 


                    Glute Force

                      Hi Flav

                      Just tried the Dorsiflexion move out of curiosity. 3-4cm at most (that makes for a pretty bitter "das what she said" joke). I am out with a bronchitis that I caught while skiing in the best possible conditions, eventhough I wasnt able to fully take advantage of the pow because I suck even harder at skiing than I do at running.  Havent had a bronchitis in a long time and am just lounging on the couch all day Smile

                       

                      Jmac: re kids - the stroller for running isnt recommended until after 12 months due to the constant shocks to the spine - or at least thats what I recall having read somewhere. But I am no expert in that field. Now on the "trying" thing, feel free to reach out for tips Wink

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        JMac - yeah it's generally a combination of daycare/nanny during the week and family on the weekends.  We had a nanny up until the end of last year who was more or less full-time during the week, and now our daughter is in daycare 5 days/week.  The in-laws all live close by so they're normally more than happy to help out.  The plan for the next two weeks will be to get weekday runs in after dropping her off to daycare, and for weekend runs I'll get the inlaws to come over and babysit.  The weekday runs will take a chunk out of work hours, but I'm lucky that my work has been giving flexible working a big push lately, so I can balance it out by getting some work done from home before she gets up, or after she's gone to bed.

                         

                        Others have mastered the stroller miles but I never really attempted that (mostly because my runs are generally before DD wakes up!).

                         

                        Flavio- man, the injury saga continues!  At least now you are starting to actually get down to some diagnoses of the root causes.

                        5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 34:08 (Sep-18) HM: 1:14:25 (Jun-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                        Last race: Christchurch Half Marathon, 2 Jun, 1:14:25 (PB)

                        Up next: Auckland Road Race Champs (10km), 25 Aug

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        SteveChCh


                        Hot Weather Complainer

                          Pretty impressive keeping up training with kids, hats off to you all.

                           

                          Well after getting into a head space where I would use Christchurch as a goal race and give myself an out for the Waterfront, it turns out that the holiday will rule out Christchurch after all.  To be fair, I should be in shape to have a crack at the Waterfront, it's just the demons of last year  giving me some doubts.  I get back from the States 5 days before Christchurch and I will run on holiday but I don't plan to do the race, or if I do it will be a last minute decision and will be a training run.

                           

                          A good week for me, with 8 weeks to go.

                           

                          Monday              70 mins easy pace (14.66km @ 4:48mins/km)

                          Tuesday             Weights

                          Wednesday        70 mins incl. 6x1km HMP (15.06km @ 4:39mins/km - 4:09, 4:13, 4:05, 4:07, 4:13, 4:05)

                          Thursday            70 mins recovery (13.45km @ 5:13mins/km)

                          Friday                 Weights

                          Saturday             22km incl 3km HMP (22.11km @ 4:43mins/km - 4:11, 4:10, 4:04)

                          Sunday               Weights

                           

                          It's been a bit cooler lately and each run has felt far more comfortable.  There's still some hot weather before we hit autumn but it feels like things are getting easier.

                          PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                          Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

                          Next Race:  South Island Half-Marathon, August 4, 2019

                          darkwave


                          Mother of Cats

                             

                            On the dorsiflexion lunge test, seen below, the minimum required is roughly 12.5cm (5in) on both sides, and I have 9cm on the left side.

                             

                            Pardon the intrusion, but I'm curious - is that standard universal, or one that applies to you, based on your height and build?  I would think that the clearance one could achieve would depend on the lengths of one's foot and tibia, as well as the relative proportions of the two.

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                            flavio1980


                            weight loss complainer

                               

                              Pardon the intrusion, but I'm curious - is that standard universal, or one that applies to you, based on your height and build?  I would think that the clearance one could achieve would depend on the lengths of one's foot and tibia, as well as the relative proportions of the two.

                              I honestly have no idea 

                              PRs: 1500m 4:57 3000 10:34 - Next up: chase a new 1500m PR

                              watsonc123


                                It has to be individual due to height differences etc.  Even foot size would effect this.

                                PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

                                 

                                40+ PRs: 5km 20:34, half 1:29:39

                                 

                                2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).