Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 551 times)

JMac11


Benevolent Leader

    Piwi - that's awesome. He's such a straight shooter, would love to have been along for that run. I hope you're not too winded after 11K after all of your 6K runs the past few months 

     

    Mark - Thank you for agreeing that they're hills! Do you guys have a lot of rolling hills, or is it mainly flat with just big climbs here and there? That was the most unique thing about Boston for me compared to NYC. A lot more little bumps. There were few parts of the course that were flat for more than 1K.

     

    Me - yeah, feels like a train hit me. Besides the usual soreness, one odd point of soreness is where I get my usual stitches in my abs (way better than NYC, will detail in a race report). But it's so weird to be sore from battling stitches in a race, this might take a week to feel better!

    5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

     

    Next Race: Suffolk County Half Marathon (10/27/19)


    Elite Jogger

      The Mikkey encounter lived up to expectations. Helluva nice guy. 11kms along Brighton waterfront went very quickly as we chatted about anything and everything. He also bought me a coffee. I wish him all the best for a moose mug attempt at London.

       

      Aww thanks! I really enjoyed the run and chat today and you’d be a great training partner if you lived in Brighton! Glad you and your family enjoyed the trip over and have a safe journey back!

      5k - 17:53 (2019)   10k - 37:53 (2018)   Half - 1:23:18 (2019)   Full - 2:50:43 (2019)


      Glute Force

        Haha Marks picture is almost as epic as Piwi behind the fresh looking female.

         

        Flavio: that hat just makes you look ridiculous. You have to run without it or turn it around next time. Cool pictures though, they took a lot of pics my god.

         

        Jmac: really happy to see that you arent badly injured. Boston checked off and now off to chase Marks HM record. Smile

        Marky_Mark_17


          JMac- definitely not a lot of flat stuff around here.  The venue for the Waterfront Half is pretty much the only 10km flat stretch in the entire city (incidentally it's also where I run most of my workouts for that reason).  We've got mainly rolling hills with a few steeper ones.

          5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

          Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

          Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

          "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

            lots of good stuff going on here...

            Piwi Mickky that's cool you guys got to meet up and go for a run

            Steve Mark Flavio nice race photos!

             

            As an update on the issue with my abdomen I went to my Dr. appointment today and the verdict is a hernia...I go to the surgery center in the next day or to to meet with them and see what the next steps are.

            I just hope I can get this behind me and get back out there soon...but not too soon.

             

            Jmac congrats again on another impressive performance and in that weather too.

            PR's

            1m  5:38 (2018)

            5k    19:59 (2019)

            HM  1:33:56 (2018)

            FM  3:23:07 (2018)

            CommanderKeen


            Aspiring Hobby Jogger

              CFarr - I went through the hernia repair thing a couple years before I started running. Had one patched that was about the size of a silver dollar and a smaller one the size of a quarter. Mesh patches, I think.

              My biggest piece of advice is to avoid comedy at all costs after the surgery. The worst pain I've ever felt was when my wife told a joke a couple days after the surgery and I couldn't stop myself from laughing.

              5k: 18:25 10/19 (solo track TT) │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:28:01 4/18 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

               

              Upcoming Races:

              DRC Half 11/3

              Dallas Marathon 12/15

              JMac11


              Benevolent Leader

                Corey - sorry to hear, I had mentioned a while ago that I feared you had a hernia. You should reach out to JTReeves on the sub 3 forum. He had his surgery in November I think and recovered quickly enough that he just ran a marathon in the low 2:50s this weekend. He should have some good advice for you on how to get back into things at an appropriate pace.

                5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

                 

                Next Race: Suffolk County Half Marathon (10/27/19)

                matthewfschwartz


                  Mark- Incredible performance at Waterfront and great race report! It was interesting to hear about how frequently the course had you U-turn. Did you feel that killed your momentum and affected your performance at all?

                   

                  Steve- Well done at Waterfront for you as well, you're closing in on that PR!

                   

                  Flavio- You were very correct about that last mile, I blew up the last 10k or so, and not really sure how I managed to run as much of the last 10k as I did. Were you tracking bib numbers or how did you see the splits and results? Anyways, I appreciate you keeping tabs on all of us at Boston!

                   

                  Keen- Nice week, you're logging some high volumes and quality miles! What peak race(s) have you got coming up on the radar?

                   

                  Jmac- Very well done, great performance and way to salvage what was probably a less than ideal training block for you! Goes to show how much more you've got in you. Glad I wasn't the only one destroyed by the Newton hills. You're right about that humidity too, I would've loved some rain especially coming into miles 17-21. I even got sunburnt!

                   

                  Cfarr- Sorry to hear about the hernia, and best of luck with recovery!

                   

                  As many of you have probably seen or heard, I had a pretty rough finish on Monday, but I'll post a race report soon!

                  PR's: 800 - 2:01.9, 1600 - 4:34.4, 3 mile - 16:00, Full Marathon - 2:54:49

                  Goals: Break 1:20 HM, Break 2:45 FM, Break 34:00 10k, Break 16:00 5k

                  Upcoming Races: 

                  Strava link

                  matthewfschwartz


                    Boston Marathon 2019 Race Recap:

                     

                    Woke up around 5:20, to catch the train to the gear drop off and bus loading near Boston Common by 6:45. Once we arrived at gear drop off, it started raining and was pouring by the time I made it onto the bus to Hopkinton. Luckily I was wearing a large trash bag to keep me relatively dry (except for the shoes, socks, and hat). I kept snacking on various carbs starting at the time I woke up until we got to the athlete's village in Hopkinton around 7:30-7:45. I also took a chance on a GU Energy electrolyte drink instead of straight water before the race to avoid over-hydrating and peeing out all my electrolytes before the race started.

                     

                    The race got underway and the plan was to stay relaxed the first 10k or so as it was mostly downhill from the start. As I crossed the starting line, I pressed my watch's start button, but about a minute later, I realized it hadn't started! This contributed slightly to my estimated effort as I had no idea at the time how long or far I had been running. I clocked 20:51 through 5k, which was quite a bit quicker than I had anticipated, but due to how good I was feeling, I kept rolling with some hesitance. I remember telling myself to ease up but I must have gotten caught up in the swarm and with the adrenaline and crowds, I felt like I was going slower than I actually was.

                     

                    Still feeling good by 10k and my second 5k split at 21:02. I felt pretty good about how things were feeling here, and kept cruising along the flat part of the course. My third 5k was a 21:16, but still very even on mile splits and all that. At this point I felt pretty optimistic about the rest of the race. Going in I had a tentative goal of sub 3 (I really had no idea where I was at), but feeling out the first 15k, I was really hoping more for a PR. This definitely made me a little more greedy instead of conservative, as I rolled out a 22:00 for the next 5k. This drop in time was mostly due to a quick bathroom stop that probably cost me 45-60 seconds.

                     

                    Post bathroom break I made a significant mistake, as I felt the urge to pick back up a few seconds from the time I "wasted" using the restroom. The mile I stopped in (mile 12), I split a 7:28 but then the following two miles I split a 6:43 then a 6:39! BIG mistake there, I really should have eased into my original goal pace of 6:52 per mile leading into the hills that started at mile 16. My fifth 5k was a 21:10 and I knew I was in trouble right as I hit the hills, as my calves were on fire and I had just started the first of four hills between miles 16 and 21.

                     

                    I knew I was in trouble now, but was still optimistic about sub 3. My original plan was to relax up the hills and push MP on the flats and downhill parts, but I was struggling too much too early on. Miles 17-20 were all between 7:00-7:30, which I was fine with, as long as I could push the rest of the way after Heartbreak Hill. The next 5k (30k mark) was a 22:46, which was a pretty sizable slowdown, but not a terrible split out of context.

                     

                    I had been taking GU gels every five miles (5, 10, 15, 20) and I wasn't really feeling the 20 mile gel, but I decided to force it down anyways. Mile 20 is where I started to face a world of hurt. That last gel was the tipping point for my stomach, and I couldn't make it up Heartbreak Hill without a walking break (The first time I have ever walked in a race besides walking a few steps to drink water without it splashing all over). Soon after I made it up Heartbreak, I had to take pit stop number two, which was much longer than the first one as I contemplated how I was going to finish this race. It was so dark in the porta potty and so bright outside at this point that I became quite disoriented. It only went downhill from there as I was forced to walk in multiple other sections and dry heaved a couple times. Honestly, I think I would've felt much better if I just threw up, but it wasn't happening.

                     

                    Miles 21 to the finish were very brutal and humbling as I walked large portions and was out of it both mentally and physically. The only thing that kept motivating me were the crowds of people, and fans that singled me (and others that were struggling) out to get us moving again. I ran the final stretch on Boylston, which was an amazing experience as people were packed like sardines to see everyone finish. I had visualized flying down Boylston numerous times over the past few days, so this finish wasn't what I expected or anticipated, but at least the fans brought the best out of a pretty crappy finish for me. Post race I was fairly lightheaded and pretty nauseous, so I spent some time in the medical tent as a precaution as well as just sitting to regain some strength.

                     

                    Before running this race, I had no plans to run another marathon anytime soon, and this result surely hasn't changed that for me. As of now, I plan on focusing in this summer on some more speed in order to come back and hopefully race some shorter distance (5k to HM) the rest of the year. I figure while I'm still young, I ought to make the most out of the speed I have and I will surely come back to Boston sometime down the road.

                    PR's: 800 - 2:01.9, 1600 - 4:34.4, 3 mile - 16:00, Full Marathon - 2:54:49

                    Goals: Break 1:20 HM, Break 2:45 FM, Break 34:00 10k, Break 16:00 5k

                    Upcoming Races: 

                    Strava link

                    Marky_Mark_17


                      Corey - bummer re the hernia

                       

                      Matthew - nice RR, sounds like a pretty tough day.  One of the podcasts I listen to has a saying 'the marathon always wins' and it definitely sounds pretty true to your experience.  With your speed I think you're smart to have a decent crack at the shorter stuff, your PR's there are impressive as is and you should be able to post some really sharp 5k and 10k times.

                       

                      Re the turns at Waterfront... there were 5, of which 3 were u-turns and the other 2 were almost u-turns but with a wider arc.  They were a minor nuisance but overall probably not too bad, other than the last one which I think felt a lot worse because it turned straight back into a headwind.

                      5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                      Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

                      Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

                      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      watsonc123


                        JMac- definitely not a lot of flat stuff around here.  The venue for the Waterfront Half is pretty much the only 10km flat stretch in the entire city (incidentally it's also where I run most of my workouts for that reason).  We've got mainly rolling hills with a few steeper ones.

                         

                        It is quite different where I am.  It is pretty much nearlynearl or steep hills.

                         

                        Corey - good luck with the hernia.

                         

                        Mathew - yikes.  What was your final time?

                        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                         

                        40+ PRs: 5km 20:34 (Jan 2019), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                         

                        2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

                          Matthew excellent report. I think we can all relate in some way. You are young and there's plenty of time to improve in the marathon later.

                           

                          Jmac the run with Mikkey went so fast. I could have gone twice as far. We both think you should get off the EPO though 

                           

                          Cfarr sorry to hear about your hernia. My brother in law had some issues with prostate cancer and the mesh from a previous hernia stopped them operating. They only found this out during the operation. Luckily he got clear of the cancer with radiation treatment.

                          50+ PBs5k 18:29 Tauranga Parkrun May18   

                          10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

                          " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                          Somewhere in between is about right "      

                           

                            Matthew great race report and congratulation to get to the end !!!

                            PRs since re-started in 2013:

                            5km: 19:43 (Belfast park run Sep-16) | 10km: 40:16 (Belfast Lagan side 10K Sep-18) 

                            HM: 1:30:09 (Belfast city Half Marathon, September-18) | FM: 3:25:05 (official chip time Belfast city Marathon, May-19, marathon was 0.3/4 longer, original time 3:27:20 for 26.5/6...)

                             

                            Upcoming races:  

                            10K Seeley cup 30Nov (Belfast) goal sub 40 again...might try a 5K park run

                              Matthew great race report sorry you had such a tough time of it.  Congrats on pushing through and finishing though.

                               

                              re hernia Thanks all...

                              I was a little stubborn and a bit in disbelief, with no visible signs, I tried to chalk it up to increased intensity and the "pain" was just muscle soreness...alas it had gone on long enough with no signs of improvement.

                               

                              I was going to ask if anyone here has had hernia surgery and how the recovery went.  How long did it take to get back to normal training volume and intensity after the surgery?

                              PR's

                              1m  5:38 (2018)

                              5k    19:59 (2019)

                              HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                              FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                              flavio1980


                              weight loss complainer

                                Jmac - I was thinking you'd run Berlin, the Queen of all marathons, but I see you'd need to train through summer for that.
                                I hope you will be more conservative post marathon this time heh
                                Also Your 5k PR is looking very, very soft at the moment...

                                Piwi/Mikkey - Great forum encounter. I can see Mikkey's got the fountain of youth on his backyard as he looks younger than me.

                                Piwi - I'm glad you found Cock in England (see his Strava feed).

                                MickJogger - thanks for the fashion advice haha. I can see you're posting some 5min/km runs lately,
                                are you picking up the paces?

                                Corey - trust your doctor. Hernias come in all shapes and sizes and we're all different.

                                Matt - Yup, I was posting live updates of you guys during the race (see a couple pages back).
                                Honestly (and this is a very controversial opinion I have), you should probably have dropped out.
                                There's no benefit to finishing that race and the added damage to your tendons is not worth it.
                                IIRC you had quite a few injuries during training, sometimes you lose the battle to win the war.

                                PRs: 1500m 4:54.1 3K 10:34 5K 18:05 HM 1:24:25 - Up next: Chase the HM PR