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It’s likely to be the coldest race since that one I ran with Piwi.
I have Steve’s mobile number from last time we caught up in CHC, and a general consensus of eat and/or drink after the race. Not sure if that constitutes ‘sorted’.
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48
Up next: Runway5, 4 May
"CONSISTENCY IS KING"
Given I don't have Steve's number, your number, a venue and time - I would say we are not sorted.
My PR was quite cool at the start at around 5-6 Celsius, although it warmed up to maybe 12 near the end.
My coldest race was the Christchurch full 2015, it was -5 Celsius at the start, about +7 Celsius by the end. Had numb feet for the first 24km.
PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)
40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)
2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05
2024 PRs: 5km 20:25
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Darkwave - congratz on the great mile time, especially considering it's a rolling course on a road.
So we all know how to summon Darkwave into the thread, and last week we learned how to summon MickJogger, just need to post one of those pictures
PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021
Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race
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5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
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Cobra Commander Keen
Flavio - Hells yeah!! Great race and RR. Also I like your updated title.
Mark - I'm really looking forward to seeing your race at the end of the week.
Watson - Nice week. How'd the relay go overall?
JMac - Aside from having impossible-to-get-anywhere-else shoes, how's Japan treating you? I did make a post about those a while back, mostly because of DWave, since she likes those as well.
DWave - I got a chuckle out of that.
Alright, after some down weeks for sickness (either mine, DW's, or the kiddos) I've now gotten two consecutive, solid weeks in. Hopefully I can continue that this week and make it a trend! I've wanted to run from my place to the in-law's for a couple years now, and finally got a chance to do that. I even found a mini-excavator by the roadside at about mile 10 so I could get a comfy place to rest for a couple minutes.
Monday, May 20, 2019 thru Sunday, May 26, 2019
5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22
Upcoming Races:
OKC Memorial 5k - April 27
Sweaty woman ?
Where ?
55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT
" If you don't use it you lose it, but if you use it, it wears out.
Somewhere in between is about right "
Keen - another fine week. Masters X country relay went ok, ran 17:50 on tired legs for 4.1km (last minute ring in). Really small race, I didn't realize it at the finish (I ran last leg), but we won the mixed relay. Note the really small field point (it was greater than one, but don't know how many). It has screwed around my normal half marathon peaker week though, ended up having to run easy on Tuesday.
I'll PM you my number. Pretty slammed at work until Fri lunchtime but I'll set up a group message after that. Not sure when Steve's flight back to CHC from his trip is either.
Field looks very strong for the half - former Olympian Nikki Hamblin should take out the women's race but the men's field has a ton of quick guys as usual.
Keen - nice week.
hilarious!
PR's
1m 5:38 (2018)
5k 19:59 (2019)
HM 1:33:56 (2018)
FM 3:23:07 (2018)
Wind is not my friend.
Keen - Awesome week. I'm going to strive to reach the greatness of all the miles some of you put in.
Watson - Congrats on the win. A win is a win even in a small field! :-)
Good luck to the group racing this weekend! I've been busy doing the conversions from Celsius to Farenheit and race weather sounds a little chilly to me. I'm usually good as long as I have a set of gloves and a hat on. Then again, I'm enjoying not thinking about cold weather right now as it's been 80s (Farenheit, not Celsius....) here all week!
On another note, feel free to tell me to shut up and run but as I read and re-read Daniels, he talks about spm being ideal at 180. Is this really a feasible thing for everyone? I'd be curious to do a statistical study based on height and spm. I've tried to shorten the strides the past couple days just for science sake and could only get an average of 174 at my best but yesterday was 168. Felt like I was using some different muscles in my legs but I understand the lower impact that it is taking on my legs. Just curious if there is already a widespread opinion on this from those more experience than me.
"Current" PRs
5K - 18:00 (4/19) | HM - 1:19:28 (4/22)
Next Race: A 5K of some sort (Goal: Sub 17:30)
Ben - steps per minute is a factor of pace and also height/gait.
A slower pace means low spm and a sprint means high spm.
So yeah just run.
On another note, feel free to tell me to shut up and run but as I read and re-read Daniels, he talks about spm being ideal at 180. Is this really a feasible thing for everyone?
I believe Daniels himself has backed off of strict adherence to 180. I also don't think he was that strict about it to begin with.
My observation is that optimal cadence is individual, and hinges on height and leg length.
I have very short legs, and so I tend to cycle pretty rapidly - easy runs have a cadence of around 184-185; marathon pace work is in the mid-190s; short fast stuff is well over 200. My teammates with longer legs have slower cadences, and it doesn't slow them down.
[a teammate with a slower cadence used to tell me how much he envied my quick cadence. I told him I'd happily trade it any day for his 2:30 marathon....]
IMHO, cadence, like foot strike, is a proxy for the real concerns - you don't want to be overstriding, and you want your legs to be propelling you more forward than up. If you're good on those two fronts, then let your cadence be what it is.
I do think that as we run more, we get more skilled at running, and naturally adapt the cadence that is optimal for us.
Going further, anything that requires you to think hard to achieve during running is probably not very useful as the body will do what it finds more comfortable regardless of what you're trying.
My running coach advocates strongly that people focus on gaining strength instead of focusing on drills, steps per minute or what have you.
The guys over at the gym also seem to agree. They say you get a good posture from a strong core, not by thinking hard about it.
Ben - Thanks!You've hit on the one thing that I don't think really matters in that book. In my completely amateur opinion, the most important thing about stride overall is to not over-stride, or take steps that are too long. By taking steps that are too long you end up braking with your quads and it will put extra strain on your knees. For a bit of personal reference, my usual easy runs are typically in the 170-172 range. Marathon pace around 174-176 or so. Getting up to 180 usually requires being at least threshold or faster efforts unless I make a point to try taking short steps. Doing hill sprints I'll hit 200-212 spm or so.