Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 422 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    It’s likely to be the coldest race since that one I ran with Piwi.

     

    I have Steve’s mobile number from last time we caught up in CHC, and a general consensus of eat and/or drink after the race. Not sure if that constitutes ‘sorted’.

    5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 34:08 (Sep-18) HM: 1:14:25 (Jun-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

    Last race: Christchurch Half Marathon, 2 Jun, 1:14:25 (PB)

    Up next: Auckland Road Race Champs (10km), 25 Aug

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    watsonc123


      Given I don't have Steve's number, your number, a venue and time - I would say we are not sorted.

       

      My PR was quite cool at the start at around 5-6 Celsius, although it warmed up to maybe 12 near the end.

       

      My coldest race was the Christchurch full 2015, it was -5 Celsius at the start, about +7 Celsius by the end.  Had numb feet for the first 24km.

      PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

       

      40+ PRs: 5km 20:34, half 1:29:39

       

      2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

      flavio1980


      weight loss complainer

        Given I don't have Steve's number, your number, a venue and time - I would say we are not sorted.

         

        Sorry guys, but this is hilarious 

         

        Darkwave - congratz on the great mile time, especially considering it's a rolling course on a road.

         

        So we all know how to summon Darkwave into the thread, and last week we learned how to summon MickJogger, just need to post one of those pictures 

        PRs: 1500m 4:57 3000 10:34 - Next up: chase a new 1500m PR

        JMac11


          So we all know how to summon Darkwave into the thread, and last week we learned how to summon MickJogger, just need to post one of those pictures 

           

          If you post a picture of a sweaty woman, in an ad for colorectal health, while noting she’s sweaty because of the dew point, you can summon MickJogger, DWave, and Piwi with one single comment.

          5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 35:59 (3/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

           

          Next Race: Breathe for Britt 5K (6/29/19) 

          darkwave


          Mother of Cats

            You rang?

            Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

             

            And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

            CommanderKeen


            Aspiring Hobby Jogger

              Flavio - Hells yeah!! Great race and RR. Also I like your updated title.


              Mark - I'm really looking forward to seeing your race at the end of the week.


              Watson - Nice week. How'd the relay go overall?


              JMac - Aside from having impossible-to-get-anywhere-else shoes, how's Japan treating you? I did make a post about those a while back, mostly because of DWave, since she likes those as well.

               

              DWave - I got a chuckle out of that.


              Alright, after some down weeks for sickness (either mine, DW's, or the kiddos) I've now gotten two consecutive, solid weeks in. Hopefully I can continue that this week and make it a trend! I've wanted to run from my place to the in-law's for a couple years now, and finally got a chance to do that. I even found a mini-excavator by the roadside at about mile 10 so I could get a comfy place to rest for a couple minutes.

               

              Monday, May 20, 2019 thru Sunday, May 26, 2019

              <tfoot> </tfoot>
              Day Miles Pace Description HR Link
              Mon 8.6 7:56 Waiting for the storms to hit - Watopia 145 (74%) strava
              Tue 11.3 7:06 5x (4 min HM effort, 2 min E, 4 min 5k effort, 2 min E)- NYC 149 (76%) strava
              Wed 10.7 8:17 1 owl, 1 rabbit, & 2 deer (2 strides, plus 4 deer strides for Ace) 137 (70%) strava
              Thu 10.6 8:21 A skunk fighting an armadillo, a hawk catching a frog, and a turtle in a stream 151 (77%) strava
              Fri 8.5 7:06 5 intervals for however long it took me to fatigue "just so" 155 (79%) strava
              Sat 17.7 8:04 Over the hills and across the plains to the in-law's pool I go 148 (76%) strava
                67.4 7:50

              5k: 18:54 9/18 │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:28:01 4/18 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

               

              Upcoming Races:

              Tunnel to Towers 5k 8/31

              Wurst Race Half 10/5

                Sweaty woman ?

                Where ?

                50+ PBs5k 18:29 Tauranga Parkrun May18   

                10k 40:16 June 18

                " I have a plan to make my legs longer by wearing shorter shorts "      

                 

                watsonc123


                  Keen - another fine week.  Masters  X country relay went ok, ran 17:50 on tired legs for 4.1km (last minute ring in).  Really small race, I didn't realize it at the finish (I ran last leg), but we won the mixed relay.  Note the really small field point (it was greater than one, but don't know how many).  It has screwed around my normal half marathon peaker week though, ended up having to run easy on Tuesday.

                  PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

                   

                  40+ PRs: 5km 20:34, half 1:29:39

                   

                  2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    Given I don't have Steve's number, your number, a venue and time - I would say we are not sorted.

                     

                    I'll PM you my number.  Pretty slammed at work until Fri lunchtime but I'll set up a group message after that.  Not sure when Steve's flight back to CHC from his trip is either.

                     

                    Field looks very strong for the half - former Olympian Nikki Hamblin should take out the women's race but the men's field has a ton of quick guys as usual.

                     

                    Keen - nice week.

                    5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 34:08 (Sep-18) HM: 1:14:25 (Jun-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                    Last race: Christchurch Half Marathon, 2 Jun, 1:14:25 (PB)

                    Up next: Auckland Road Race Champs (10km), 25 Aug

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      hilarious!

                      PR's

                      1m  5:38 (2018)

                      5k    19:59 (2019)

                      HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                      FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                      cc4life07


                      Wind is not my friend.

                        Keen - Awesome week.  I'm going to strive to reach the greatness of all the miles some of you put in.

                         

                        Watson - Congrats on the win.  A win is a win even in a small field!  :-)

                         

                        Good luck to the group racing this weekend!  I've been busy doing the conversions from Celsius to Farenheit and race weather sounds a little chilly to me.  I'm usually good as long as I have a set of gloves and a hat on.  Then again, I'm enjoying not thinking about cold weather right now as it's been 80s (Farenheit, not Celsius....) here all week!

                         

                        On another note, feel free to tell me to shut up and run but as I read and re-read Daniels, he talks about spm being ideal at 180.  Is this really a feasible thing for everyone?  I'd be curious to do a statistical study based on height and spm.  I've tried to shorten the strides the past couple days just for science sake and could only get an average of 174 at my best but yesterday was 168.  Felt like I was using some different muscles in my legs but I understand the lower impact that it is taking on my legs.  Just curious if there is already a widespread opinion on this from those more experience than me.

                        "Current" PRs

                        5K - 18:00 (4/19)   |   HM - 1:25:03 (10/12)

                        flavio1980


                        weight loss complainer

                          Ben - steps per minute is a factor of pace and also height/gait.

                          A slower pace means low spm and a sprint means high spm.

                          So yeah just run.

                          PRs: 1500m 4:57 3000 10:34 - Next up: chase a new 1500m PR

                          darkwave


                          Mother of Cats

                             

                            On another note, feel free to tell me to shut up and run but as I read and re-read Daniels, he talks about spm being ideal at 180.  Is this really a feasible thing for everyone?  

                             

                            I believe Daniels himself has backed off of strict adherence to 180.  I also don't think he was that strict about it to begin with.

                             

                            My observation is that optimal cadence is individual, and hinges on height and leg length.

                             

                            I have very short legs, and so I tend to cycle pretty rapidly - easy runs have a cadence of around 184-185; marathon pace work is in the mid-190s; short fast stuff is well over 200.  My teammates with longer legs have slower cadences, and it doesn't slow them down.

                             

                            [a teammate with a slower cadence used to tell me how much he envied my quick cadence.  I told him I'd happily trade it any day for his 2:30 marathon....]

                             

                            IMHO, cadence, like foot strike, is a proxy for the real concerns - you don't want to be overstriding, and you want your legs to be propelling you more forward than up.  If you're good on those two fronts, then let your cadence be what it is.

                             

                            I do think that as we run more, we get more skilled at running, and naturally adapt the cadence that is optimal for us.

                            Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                             

                            And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                            flavio1980


                            weight loss complainer

                              Going further, anything that requires you to think hard to achieve during running is probably not very useful as the body will do what it finds more comfortable regardless of what you're trying.

                              My running coach advocates strongly that people focus on gaining strength instead of focusing on drills, steps per minute or what have you.

                               

                              The guys over at the gym also seem to agree. They say you get a good posture from a strong core, not by thinking hard about it.

                              PRs: 1500m 4:57 3000 10:34 - Next up: chase a new 1500m PR

                              CommanderKeen


                              Aspiring Hobby Jogger

                                Ben - Thanks!
                                You've hit on the one thing that I don't think really matters in that book. In my completely amateur opinion, the most important thing about stride overall is to not over-stride, or take steps that are too long. By taking steps that are too long you end up braking with your quads and it will put extra strain on your knees.
                                For a bit of personal reference, my usual easy runs are typically in the 170-172 range. Marathon pace around 174-176 or so. Getting up to 180 usually requires being at least threshold or faster efforts unless I make a point to try taking short steps. Doing hill sprints I'll hit 200-212 spm or so.

                                5k: 18:54 9/18 │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:28:01 4/18 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

                                 

                                Upcoming Races:

                                Tunnel to Towers 5k 8/31

                                Wurst Race Half 10/5