Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 559 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    Mark - An old mate of mine from uni and opposing cricket teams finished 4 seconds behind you...haven't spoken to him yet but I wonder if he saw me yelling at you and felt neglected.  I didn't even see him, although it was hard to recognise people with the state they were in by the finish.

     

    Was that Nathan Jones?  I had a chat to him afterwards and he seemed like a nice guy.  He was in the larger group I ran with for much of the race.  He's doing the Gold Coast marathon and is probably going to come up to Auckland for the marathon in October so I'll keep an eye out for him there.

    5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

    Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

    Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    SteveChCh


    Hot Weather Complainer

      Yep, Nathan Jones.  When I played cricket against him he was quite overweight, then a few years later I heard he's got into endurance racing.  I think he's placed in the Coast to Coast and has about a 2:40 marathon.

      PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

      Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

      Next Race:  South Island Half-Marathon, August 4, 2019

      Marky_Mark_17


        In the interests of full disclosure, here is a picture from the race finish on Sunday.

         

        I look like a crazy man about to fight someone.  In my defence, I was doing a fist pump celebration at the time, it just came out a little deranged.

         

        5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

        Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

        Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

        flavio1980


        weight loss complainer

          Keen - Yeah, I've been running exclusively on Altras for a few years now, so zero drop was not an issue. But the low profile was, the track felt a lot harder than I thought it'd be.

           

          Cfar - hang in there. Now it's an excellent time to pick up strength training as well to keep busy.

           

          me - I ran the first 200's in 34 seconds today. It felt so fast and great, though at a certain point I felt like I really had to increase the stride cause I was doing 300 steps per minute or something. Gotta get that ass working to push me forward.

           

          Mark - I knew I remembered you from somewhere:

          Kiddo Mark

          PRs: 1500m 4:54.1 3K 10:34 5K 18:05 HM 1:24:25 - Up next: Chase the HM PR

          watsonc123


            Is that Nathan Jones who used to be a batsman, I think left handed?  I have just looked at the photos - if it is who I am thinking of, he looks ALMOST COMPLETELY different to what he did 20 years ago.

            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

             

            40+ PRs: 5km 20:34 (Jan 2019), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

             

            2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

            watsonc123


              JMac - also I have another race.  Dorne Cup Cross Country 8km, Saturday 8 June.

              PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

               

              40+ PRs: 5km 20:34 (Jan 2019), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

               

              2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

              SteveChCh


              Hot Weather Complainer

                Watson - no different one. I played with the one you’re thinking of at Lancaster Park. The one who now runs played cricket and indoor in North Canterbury

                PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

                Next Race:  South Island Half-Marathon, August 4, 2019

                Marky_Mark_17


                  Watson - no different one. I played with the one you’re thinking of at Lancaster Park. The one who now runs played cricket and indoor in North Canterbury

                   

                  FWIW, I know another Nathan Jones who is a triathlete and lives near me down in Hobsonville (I see him out running from time to time).

                   

                  I feel like maybe there is some sort of secret Nathan Jones society or something.

                  5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                  Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

                  Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

                  "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                  flavio1980


                  weight loss complainer

                    From the way you guys talk I can infer that NewZealand is actually a small village with 300 people 

                    PRs: 1500m 4:54.1 3K 10:34 5K 18:05 HM 1:24:25 - Up next: Chase the HM PR

                    JMac11


                    Benevolent Leader

                      Yeah this thread has just become a place for people to talk about New Zealand issues... Let's get back on topic here folks!

                       

                      To that point: if you were training for a 5K and running 65 MPW, how would you structure that week? I'm finding it a bit challenging to keep mileage that high, get hard workouts in, and recover enough. It's easy for a marathon because your "quality" days are often 15+ miles, but there's no need to do that for a 5K.

                      5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

                       

                      Next Race: Suffolk County Half Marathon (10/27/19)

                      cc4life07


                      Wind is not my friend.

                        New Zealand must be a very small place or you all know absolutely everyone there!

                         

                        JMac - If you're training for a good 5K but want to keep the mileage up, I always just added a much longer warm-up and cool-down than usual.  More on the cool-down so it wouldn't hamper the workout and added sufficient recovery.  Granted, I haven't trained for a 5K in a while but that's usually where the mileage came from.  I also would usually still do 12-14 mile long runs so even though it wasn't necessary, I don't think it hurt much unless the pace was pushed too much.

                        "Current" PRs

                        5K - 18:00 (4/19)   |   HM - 1:25:03 (10/12)

                        Next Race: Blizzard Run 5K (8/24), Goal: Sub 18.

                        CommanderKeen


                        Aspiring Hobby Jogger

                          Mark - Ultras can definitely turn into eating competitions, and that becomes more true the longer the race is. I've already done two marathons this year without any calories, so if I do this 50k I'll probably just put some Maurten in the water bottles I carry with me and call it good. That run wouldn't (to me) be long enough to justify anything more solid. The race would also quite likely be 95F/35C+ at the start (and super-humid in this part of the state), so any fuel would have to be really easy on the stomach.

                          From what I've been told chicken noodle soup is definitely a favorite since it's a bit salty and easy to get down. I've known people who completely avoid processed foods & sweets on a regular basis who will think nothing of downing handfuls of Oreos, gummy bears, M&Ms, and washing it all down with Coke during an ultra. I guess it's whatever looks good at the time!


                          CFarr - Did the PT say what the actual issue is/may be? It's not ideal, but at least you do have the exercises and you can bike to maintain some fitness.


                          Flavio - Somehow I had forgotten you wear Altras as well. 34 sec 200s? *low whistle* Wowza. Those average times for the different distances are all really nice.


                          JMac - Welcome back. Your question is relevant to my own interests. I'm not really focused on anything at the moment, just trying to build more speed. I've been concentrating mostly on Intervals and Reps, with some hill efforts (either 10-15 sec all-out sprints or ~1min repeats), and occasionally longer intervals (maybe 10 minutes) at a touch over T effort.


                          For the last few weeks I've been experimenting with a higher-cushioned pair of shoes for easy and LRs (Altra Torin 3.5), and using my usual Altra Escalantes for speedy days. While I can certainly tell a difference between the cushion in the shoes, I'm not sure that it's really making much difference fore me - if that makes sense. Has anyone else noticed something like this? It really makes me want to just rotate a couple pairs of the Escalante for training days and call it good.

                          5k: 18:25 10/19 (solo track TT) │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:28:01 4/18 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

                           

                          Upcoming Races:

                          DRC Half 11/3

                          Dallas Marathon 12/15

                          SteveChCh


                          Hot Weather Complainer

                            When I was in the States a few years ago a guy said he knew someone from New Zealand and asked if I know them.  I went off about how there's nearly 5 million people, it's not a small town...turned out I knew the guy.

                             

                            JMac - when you desert us for so long, you can expect a minor rebellion

                            PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                            Recent Races:  South Island Half-Marathon 2018 1:32.39 Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49

                            Next Race:  South Island Half-Marathon, August 4, 2019

                            Marky_Mark_17


                              JMac - I'd consider putting a rest day in there each week.  I'm sure with 5k training there are some quite beastly workouts, and a straight-up rest day will do wonders for the recovery.  If you don't want to sacrifice too much mileage you could always make one of your easy days a double.

                              5000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 5km: 16:24 (Nov-18) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) HM: 1:12:49 (Sep-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                              Last race: NZ Road Relays (Leg 2 / 10.2km), 5 Oct, 35:10

                              Up next: The Agency Group 10,000m, 9 Nov

                              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              JMac11


                              Benevolent Leader

                                So considering a rest day, how would you structure it? Even if you keep your long run high at something like 15 miles just to keep endurance up, you need to find 50 miles over 5 days. I don't see that running 10 mile easy runs make a ton of sense in 5K training, so if you do 8 miles for your easy days (three of them), that would mean you would need to find 26 miles in your two quality days. That also doesn't seem right. I feel like the only answer is doubling. Am I missing something?

                                 

                                Also Keen I'll get back to your cushioning thing in a minute, trying to just focus on one topic at a time.

                                5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:21 (3/19)  |  FM: 2:44:43 (4/19) 

                                 

                                Next Race: Suffolk County Half Marathon (10/27/19)