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Hello,
So, from time to time I'm seeing people doing long runs like 20+ kilometers of which they are quite proud of. For me, it strikes as odd. First of all, it is insulting for me to see people getting it so easy, achieving much without putting the effort. Another thing is how curious sight they are. One thing is to meet them running. They most often seem to be struggling, taking breaks and exhibit other symptoms of weakness. Yet, they bring out considerable speeds out of their running,.
I myself never had any electronical devices to help me with the running, so I do not know. I always ran daily, usually up to 5 kilometers. For me, especially after a brake, it is always quite difficult to run. It is not a pleasant experience. It is always a struggle, a battle of wills to run. I do wonder why. It is not like I did not had shit tons of training. I ran thousands of kilometers, at my peak I was capable of running 11 kilometers daily. Yet, my aching muscles with contractions would inhibit my progress. It is always an issue. I'm a body builder. I weight over 100 kilograms. Some of that is fat, but I'm rather bearish individual. I certainly had a lot of muscle training and my leg muscles are quite massive in comparison to anyone who undertake long distance runnning.
So, here is my question. What can potentially hold me back? It is not that I do not try, It is not that I lack motivation. Yet, it is always feeble people all around me are capable of running far longer distances and describe experience as "enjoyable" when for me it is rather an endless march through the pain and suffering,.
Yet, it is always feeble people all around me are capable of running far longer distances and describe experience as "enjoyable" when for me it is rather an endless march through the pain and suffering,.
This sounds like you are racing your training runs. Try running 5K as fast as you can, either as a time trial or in a real race. Your proper training pace will be 2 minutes per kilometer SLOWER than your 5K race pace. Run at that pace for 2 or 3 months, then run another 5K race. You will almost certainly be faster, and the training up to that race should be a lot more enjoyable.
Old , Ugly and slow
You can't be a 100 kilograms bodybuilder and a good runner at the same time. All good runners are skinny.
first race sept 1977 last race sept 2007
2019 goals 1000 miles , 190 pounds , deadlift 400 touch my toes
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The bodybuilders at my gym are so muscle-bound they can barely walk.
5k - 17:53 (4/19) 10k - 37:53 (11/18) Half - 1:23:18 (4/19) Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)
English Villian
That doesn't sound too... um....natural!
I avoid eye contact with them and head straight to the treadmill.
Do you use a gym in a chain? I'm with David Lloyd and I'm a member of the gym at work. DL is amazing but expensive, to be honest I joined because of the pool (so I need to get back in there and justify my subscription!)
Labrat
Basically this, but to expand
1) Power to weight ratio. Too much upper body mass adds nothing to your running, its dead weight.
2) muscle type. Body building works fast twitch fibers, running is all about building and working the slow twitch fibers.
5K 20:23 (Vdot 48.7) 9/9/17
10K 44:06 (Vdot 46.3) 3/11/17
HM 1:33:48 (Vdot 48.6) 11/11/17
FM 4:13:43 (Vdot 35.4) 3/4/18
Yeah I’m with www.thegymgroup.com which are no frills gyms and great if you just want to focus on cardio or weights!
Basically this, but to expand 1) Power to weight ratio. Too much upper body mass adds nothing to your running, its dead weight. 2) muscle type. Body building works fast twitch fibers, running is all about building and working the slow twitch fibers.
^^ this. Weightlifting is short, explosive movements using the anaerobic system. Running is sustained activity, mostly using the aerobic system. Big leg muscles will help you squat hundreds of kgs. When it comes to running, they're just extra mass for no use which slows you down.
This doesn't mean that you can't run and lift weights. But there is certainly a trade-off between the two. Many runners (including me) lift weights too, but mostly in a way that supplements running (e.g. low weight/high reps to build endurance, not mass).
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Devonport HM, 1 Oct, course PB.
Up next: Omaha HM, 3 Dec, go harder.
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The original post (sypmtoms of weakness, feeble people) makes me think of these guys
Rick
I am assuming a troll post. Are you really that jealous of other runners? If so, your problem is mental, not physical.
12-22 Last One Standing - dnf 37 miles
1-23 Sun Marathon - 3:53
3-4-23 Red Mountain 55k - 7:02
4-15-23 Zion 100 - 27:59
Let me see....
There is the 100m for Cheetahs.
There is the Mile for a brutally long sprint.
There are 5K races for those who want to run fast.
There are 10K races for those wanted a certain blend of speed and distance.
There are half marathons which begin to explore endurance.
There is the almighty marathon, in my opinion the holy grail of running, which pushes mortals and beyond.
There are the crazy ultra runners who just run, and run, and run.
My point? Run for you, what works for you, what fits you. If you're too busy comparing yourself to others you know nothing about you will just be running blind.