Will running help my hiking? (Read 381 times)

sport jester


Biomimeticist

    Depends on what you mean by helping?

    Improve endurance? Sure.

    Improve technique or skill? Never.

    Experts said the world is flat

    Experts said that man would never fly

    Experts said we'd never go to the moon

     

    Name me one of those "experts"...

     

    History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

    xhristopher


      Depends on what you mean by helping?

      Improve endurance? Sure.

      Improve technique or skill? Never.

      What if you run on hiking trails?


      The Pocatello Kid.

        Yes! The endurance alone is huge. When I hike with friends, I can always tell its helping me. I can go longer without breaks and faster.

        sport jester


        Biomimeticist

          trail running takes much more refinement in skill simply because of how varied the terrain is compared to an open road event.

          Experts said the world is flat

          Experts said that man would never fly

          Experts said we'd never go to the moon

           

          Name me one of those "experts"...

           

          History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

          xhristopher


            trail running takes much more refinement in skill simply because of how varied the terrain is compared to an open road event.

             

            How is it compared to regular training on the road?

            L Train


              Do ostriches climb mountains?

               

              xhristopher


                I really wonder if an ostrich runs faster on the savanna or the sahel?


                Ostrich runner

                  I expected my trail running to help me when backpacking more than it did. When covering lots of miles running, I tend to lose gluteal strength. The stuff I run is hilly for Indiana...but only for Indiana. Most of the backpacking I do requires much more climbing, and I've found my ability wanting even when I thought I was in good condition. In general, I've found that backpacking helps my running, rather than the reverse.

                  http://www.runningahead.com/groups/Indy/forum

                  sport jester


                  Biomimeticist

                    Primarily the surfaces are vastly different. Roads are pretty much flat and trails are usually concave. The concave surface has a much smaller area of landing to hit with each step.

                    Experts said the world is flat

                    Experts said that man would never fly

                    Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                     

                    Name me one of those "experts"...

                     

                    History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

                    sport jester


                    Biomimeticist

                      I really wonder if an ostrich runs faster on the savanna or the sahel?

                      ask her

                      http://www.scienceinschool.org/2011/issue21/ostrich

                      Experts said the world is flat

                      Experts said that man would never fly

                      Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                       

                      Name me one of those "experts"...

                       

                      History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong

                      xhristopher


                        ask her

                        http://www.scienceinschool.org/2011/issue21/ostrich

                         

                        tl dr

                         

                        All I saw were pics of someone hugging and kissing an ostrich.

                         

                        What does that have to do with trail running on the open road anyway?

                        sport jester


                        Biomimeticist

                          Its a long running joke here that I study animal biomechanics as well as human movement. So I have a very different training perspective.

                           

                          What the diagrams of her article illustrate is the difference in length of each limb in their leg joints. The shorter the limb, the more power it generates in their step mechanics. What they show is that faster road running is possible by eliminating the quads as the primary source of power generation.

                           

                          Trail running is usually a forefoot landing technique, while road running is a heel strike for optimum economy. that changes the role of the ankle joint and calf muscle mechanics between the two techniques. But to be good at both, requires a much higher level of gluteus maximus integration than you would use conventionally.

                          Experts said the world is flat

                          Experts said that man would never fly

                          Experts said we'd never go to the moon

                           

                          Name me one of those "experts"...

                           

                          History never remembers the name of experts; just the innovators who had the guts to challenge and prove the "experts" wrong


                          Feeling the growl again

                             

                            tl dr

                             

                            All I saw were pics of someone hugging and kissing an ostrich.

                             

                            What does that have to do with trail running on the open road anyway?

                             

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                            xhristopher


                              Its a long running joke here that I study animal biomechanics as well as human movement. So I have a very different training perspective.

                               

                              What the diagrams of her article illustrate is the difference in length of each limb in their leg joints. The shorter the limb, the more power it generates in their step mechanics. What they show is that faster road running is possible by eliminating the quads as the primary source of power generation.

                               

                              Trail running is usually a forefoot landing technique, while road running is a heel strike for optimum economy. that changes the role of the ankle joint and calf muscle mechanics between the two techniques. But to be good at both, requires a much higher level of gluteus maximus integration than you would use conventionally.

                               

                              I think my foot strike is exactly between forefoot and heel. What animal runs like that?

                                 

                                I think my foot strike is exactly between forefoot and heel. What animal runs like that?

                                 

                                 

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