>Gears and Wears>New Saucony Kinvara?
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Love them! So far I've logged over 200 miles in them, about 3-4 days a week. I've worn them for easy runs, 18 mile aerobic threshold, tempo runs, short intervals, etc.
The first time I wore them 2 days in a row and on the 3rd day my calves were a little sore. I don't think I would have a problem wearing them everyday now.
At first I thought my legs were just slow to recover after 63 miles at a 12-hour race (in the Kinvaras). Then I realized, no, the shoes are shot. Got a new pair, it was night and day. Also the new pair doesn't rub my little toe quite so much.
I think this is like the old (then new) NASA slogan: "Faster, Better, Cheaper". Which, after one too many Mars probes was lost, became "Faster, Better, Cheaper: pick any two". Or in this case, "Light, Cushioned, Durable: pick any two". Which is an OK tradeoff with me. I'm just going to have to be more careful about tracking shoe mileage. The failure mode is not great. The shoes just become dead.
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I have about 55 miles in mine. I did a week or so running in them almost exclusively, but when I got sore calves, I decided to just throw them on occasionally. Then I went on a couple of long trips and didn't trust them as my only pair to bring, so I haven't gotten as much time in them as I'd hoped.
When wearing them on a recent long run on trails with lots of climbs and descents, I got black toenails on the second-smallest toe on both feet. After reading comments in this thread about sore little toes, I looked at my feet and noticed my little toe is quite a bit shorter than my second-littlest toe, so maybe it's the same issue, just affecting me differently from those with normal toes.... Shoot, now I have a toe complex! I also concur on the signs of low durability, but I suppose that's to be expected considering the weight. Despite those drawbacks, I actually like them a lot, mainly because of how liberating it feels to wear light, low-support shoes, but we'll see how I feel as time goes on.
Best road shoe I've ever run in, by far.
I bought these with the goal of them becoming my new go-to training shoe, replacing my aging Wave Elixir 4's. After a few months of running in Five Fingers and minimal trail shoes it appears that (in theory at least) my feet are strong enough that stability isn't indicated anymore. I tried on and ran around in Wave Precisions (too hard to run midfoot with the seemingly thick heel), Adidas Bostons (felt fantastic except that it was too snug over the top of my foot) and LunarFly+ (heel wouldn't stay put), but felt the most comfortable and natural in the Kinvaras.
So my current rotation is now Kinvara, Five Fingers KSO, Inov8 x-talon 212, and Wave Elixir 4
It took me a few weeks to figure out how tight to tie them. I usually wear my trainers really loose but doing so in these left my foot sliding around and bumping into the front of the shoe. I overcompensated for a while and tied them too tight and it was causing some pain on the top of my foot near my ankle but I seem to have figured that out.
I wear them for a lot of different workouts and runs and I think they're a good all around trainer but I will say that on some of my really easy recovery days I like something a little more cushy so I've pretty much been using my Lunarfly's on those days.
All that said I'll probably buy another pair soon.
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