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Thinking of doing a marathon...! (Read 208 times)

MsAmira


    Hi everyone,

     

    So I am a newbie runner, that being said I am not a couch potato! Ha! Ok... I've been running fairly consistently for about 6 months. I ran my first race back in December (a 10k) and it was good, I was not totally wiped! I am following a running schedule to try and run about 4 times a week, steadily increasing my distance. I am doing about 15-20km a week now.

    Ok, I'll keep this short (this is not a forum on relationships), I am thinking of doing a marathon end of May (so 4 months away). I have not yet done a half marathon and will be doing that in March using that as a way to assess if I can actually do a full marathon. All this to say, what's a good way to tell if you are ready to run a marathon? I do not have a set pace I am aiming for, I honestly just want to finish the marathon (preferably under 5 hours).

    Thanks everyone!!

    GinnyinPA


      A lot of it has to do with how much time and effort you are willing to commit to the training. Going from 10 mpw to 40-50 mpw is a big jump in time and energy. Doing an intermediate plan basically requires doing 2 one hour runs, two 90+ minute runs and 1 run of 120-210 minutes for a slow runner each week.

      Marky_Mark_17


        The only way is to actually try a marathon and see!!

         

        In all seriousness, though, I'd see how you feel after the half marathon.  I ran 10+ half marathons before my first full marathon and it was definitely a big step up.  I trained for basically 6 months exclusively for the marathon and ran a lot more weekly mileage than I did when training for half marathons.  Try and get a beginner marathon training programme (there are plenty online) and see how you go with that.

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        paul2432


          "ready to run a marathon" means different things to different people.  You could probably run/walk a marathon now and finish.  It would be very unpleasant and probably not under 5 hours (hard to say without knowing your 10K time).  You might also hurt yourself.  Some might call that "ready".

           

          To increase you chances of a not horrible experience and reduce your injury risk, at least of couple of runs 30K or so would be reasonable.

           

          Depending on where you live a late May marathon can be risky because it might be hot*.  Heat can make a marathon significantly more difficult.

           

          *More accurately, depending on where the marathon is.  Worst case scenario is you live somewhere cool and the marathon is somewhere hot.

          tom1961


          Old , Ugly and slow

            What is the rush.

            If you like running and plan on running for a long time then I  would wait and do a fall marathon.

            first race sept 1977 last race sept 2007

             

            2019  goals   1000  miles  , 190 pounds , deadlift 400 touch my toes

            DavePNW


              You're not ready

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              Maybe you can ramp up your mileage gradually and be ready for a half by the end of May instead. You might check out the Higdon plans online and find one that starts at a weekly mileage where you're already comfortable.

               

              www.halhigdon.com

              Dave

              Eisenmench


              <3's heckin long zoomies

                While you could complete a full marathon (including training cycle) in May, I'd warn you to set realistic goals.

                Finishing a full marathon in 5 hours would require a consistent pace of 11:26 or less (http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/4/4_1/96.shtml)

                Without knowing your current pace, age, etc., I can't say if that's realistic or not.

                 

                I took about a year in training for my first marathon, but the first six months or so was doing C25k > C210K > then doing 2 cycles of a 20 week C25K marathon program. I finished in just under 4:10.

                 

                If you're willing to wait to set a time goal after your half marathon, I'd say go for it. However, I do agree with the others that the ideal situation would be to work on upping current mileage and aiming for a fall marathon.

                Started running - 2014

                1st marathon - 2017

                 

                Still trying to figure out a good training plan that works for me.

                LedLincoln


                  A lot of it has to do with how much time and effort you are willing to commit to the training.

                   

                  This ^^, but I would define the appropriate time and effort as something like a year and 2000 miles of training. There is a whole lot of physiological building to do before a person can do a respectable marathon and not get injured.

                   

                  So, yes, I would suggest committing to a marathon in May 2019.  What's your hurry? Take your time and do it right, and you will have plenty to be proud of. HM and shorter races are fine in the meantime.

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                  - Mark Twain

                    Your current weekly mileage is very low for me to say you are ready for a marathon. I am about at the same level as you now and also am considering a late May marathon. My own plan is to increase my weekly mileage with a goal of 45 mile weeks, which is considered  good training millage for the marathon, and increase my long run distance. If I can do at least two 18 mile runs I think I could finish the marathon.  My advantage is I did complete a marathon in October and just need to recover some fitness lost. As to those who say you should not attempt the marathon until fall, well, my take is to go for the challenge! Even if you fail at your sub 5 goal sometimes you learn from failing about what you need to improve your training for the next go at it! I failed in my goal in my October marathon which was to finish in better than 4 hours 10 minutes, a Boston qualifier for my age. I knew going into the race that I was not ready and went for a 4:20 instead, maintained the needed pace until mile 20 and then had to slow down, my legs just could not hold the pace. Finished at like a 4:29 time. Disappointed, but my first full marathon in 13 years and I learned from that failure. This time I will give more consideration to speedwork and hopefully more millage. The May marathon, if I do it, will just be a distance challenge and not until October will I try for the sub 4:10 again . Perhaps you may need to think along these lines. Test yourself with the half. Take the half finish time, double it and add ten minutes. That will give a rough prediction of what time you can expect to run the full. If your goal is just to finish you might want to try adding some walking into your race, some people (Galloway) think that walk breaks will actually help with your overall time by preserving your speed abilities for the long distance. And you can always finish the race by walking if you find you can't handle the 26.2, just try for a little sprint at the end so you look good crossing the finish! Anyway, best of luck in reaching your goal!

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                    an amazing likeness

                      Reads to me like many of the replies are making an assumption about the meaning of the OP's "doing a marathon" goal.

                       

                      Does that mean: running the whole way?  Running at pace? Running for a time goal? Walking parts?  Just covering the 26.2 miles in order to achieve the goal of being a marathon finisher?

                       

                      OP says they are a "newbie runner" and recently completed their 1st 10K on training of 8-12mi per week. From that I'll invent my version that the object is cover the 26.2 in order to achieve a goal of being a marathon finisher.Get the medal, so to speak.  With that...

                       

                      1. MsAmira -- Go for it. Most reasonably fit folks can cover the distance and finish.

                      2. Plan on some form of walk/run program to get you there -- train with walk/run in mind.

                      3. Beware over training between now and May -- you're not going to go from 15-20KM weeks to 'solid marathon base miles' in the time between now and May. Plan on being under trained, but fresh and healthy rather than beat up and under trained.

                       

                      Just another 2 cents of opinion into all the feedback.

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                      Eisenmench


                      <3's heckin long zoomies

                        Reads to me like many of the replies are making an assumption about the meaning of the OP's "doing a marathon" goal.

                         

                        Does that mean: running the whole way?  Running at pace? Running for a time goal? Walking parts?  Just covering the 26.2 miles in order to achieve the goal of being a marathon finisher?

                         

                         

                        OP did say that they would prefer to complete the marathon in 5 hours, so I think we are assuming OP wants to run. Smile

                        Started running - 2014

                        1st marathon - 2017

                         

                        Still trying to figure out a good training plan that works for me.

                        Mr MattM


                        Older Than I Used To Be

                          I am pretty much always in the 'go for it' camp.

                           

                          I'm one of those whose first race of any distance was a marathon.  It was tough, but I finished.  In fact, it was so tough that I didn't know if I'd ever want to do one again.

                           

                          That was 51 marathons ago.

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                          I'm Younger Than That Now

                            I also say go for it, especially if your goal is to simply finish. That way you can take your time and just enjoy the experience.

                             

                            Then, for your next marathon you'll have a better idea of what to expect and have a decent chance of a nice PR! Smile

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                            Calvino2k


                              Don't do it.  You might poke your eye out.


                              Glute Force

                                Honestly I don't know the marathon pain since my preferred distance is the half. On this basis, between now and March there is only max 2 months to double the distance from 10k to 21k. And then again very little time until you plan to double again.

                                 

                                I am sure you can do it. But you are at risk of overdoing it, resulting in an injury instead of a PR.

                                 

                                If you want to have the same feeling as you did when you finished the 10k, I would recommend to take your time and to increase mileage very gradually (like the 10% every other week rule - I am sure you can find better guidance on this somewhere in the forum). You are hooked already, so there will be a lot of races in the future.

                                 

                                Enjoy the training though. I like Jack Daniels' half training plans - they prepared me well.

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