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Good Bad & The Monkey
I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.
Poor baby
I guess what gets me is what your country is implementing....get the vaccine or be thrown in jail and get a $1000 fine for everyday you don't get it!!
Where is the 'liberty and justice for all' in that manifest?
get the vaccine or be thrown in jail and get a $1000 fine for everyday you don't get it!!
Huh? Where do you get this?
i sacrificed the gift
At least it's better than being put in front of the death panel.
Yeah, I thought it might have come from the same source.
Sigh.
Here's one website, just google it
http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archives/1000-per-day-fine-and-30-days-in-jail-for-refusing-the-swine-flu-vaccine-in-massachusetts
If it is on the internet, it must be true.
Show us the statute.
A slight detail. This is NOT bird flu. There is no bird flu pandemic. There isn't even a bird flu epidemic.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm
Read section 13
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm Read section 13
Read.
"Any person who knowingly violates an order, as to which non-compliance poses a serious danger to public health as determined by the commissioner or the local public health authority, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 30 days or a fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues, or both. "
Yep. But did you (and all the pundits) read the context for this punishment? Is is fairly clear that this punishment is only applicable in a state of emergency in which the public health commissioner believes that public health is seriously in jeopardy. Specifically, "to prevent a serious danger to the public health".
It is illegal to commit suicide actively or passively and it is illegal to endanger the lives of others. Is this inappropriate? In the case of an epidemic of a serious illness, I think it reasonable to take steps to protect the populace from themselves and others.
But THIS current pandemic is not that.
So, don't criticize. Be constructive. If we were in a pandemic with a truly dangerous organism (say, airborn bird flu), how would YOU suggest we protect people?
This statute refers to orders issued to a specific premises and case of infestation. It does not give them the power to say "everyone who doesn't get vaccinated goes in the pokey".
It's more like saying, if you have ebola in your house, we can quarantine it so it doesn't kill the whole town.
Why is it sideways?
Not to mention that's a state bill, not a federal bill. Not to mention that the section quoted is intended to LIMIT the fine and imprisonment that a state citizen would be subject to in the case of health crisis. Not to mention that intelligent government requires planning for emergencies in advance.
So hilarious that Chrimbler tells us to read a bill that obviously he didn't even understand!
"Your Honor, to incarcerate my client would amount to cruel and unusual punishment, as he would likely be exposed to citizens who have not been vaccinated and would thus present an increased health risk."
MTA just practicing 'thinking out of the box"
State bill - federal bill, I'm sure it reads 'Liberty and Justice for ALL'
I don't really need to understand it, I heard about it on Fox news while listening to 1110 KFAB out of Nebraska, I'm sure they did thier research.
Bury your heads if you want.