The Waltons aka Advanced Half Marathon Training Thread - 2022 edition (Read 391 times)

flavio1980


Intl. correspondent

    Zeb - it most likely is related to the lower mileage of late. My watch is telling me to rest for 4 days 😁

    PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

    Up next: 10K Family race

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    Fredford66


    Running Musician

      I've been away just a few days and have a lot of catching up to do, so here goes.

       

      Zebano - Have you tried imslp.org?  It's not great for new arrangements of older pieces, but has a lot of music that's out of copyright.  You sort of have to know what you're looking for rather than going there to browse.  I played Mars with an orchestra an the conductor, a student of music history, gave us an interesting tidbit - Holst chose the 5/4 meter not to sound dangerous or imposing, but to make people feel uneasy, since he wrote that movement when WWI had yet to happen, but people were getting worried about it.  What instrument(s) do you play?  Thanks for the congratulations.  Sorry to hear of your loss.  (ETA:  CustomChamberMusic.com has music you have to pay for, but they provide you with multiple versions/keys for each voice, so you can customize it to your ensemble and even switch around which instrument plays which voice.)

       

      Flavio - Thanks.  It was definitely a tough course for me as I don't have that kind of terrain where I live.  However, given the first two males finished in under 68 minutes, I have to be careful about complaining it was too tough.  For me it wasn't the amount of elevation in the race - I've run races with more - so much as how steep some of it was.  Sorry to hear about your DOMS issues.  Nice costume.

       

      Mark - Thank you.  Yes, running harder courses requires a different approach, and I think I'm finally at the point where I can do that consistently (I've run 37 halves, so I like to think I've learned at least a little bit).  Interesting review of your training block and good to see your positive outlook (and having already gotten permission for next year's race).

       

      Steve - Congratulations on your race; nicely run.  As to whether you can count it as a PR, one part of the equation is whether allowing what you see as an easier course to be your PR will make it all that much harder to get your next PR.  Thanks for the kind words on my race and report.

       

      Keen - Enjoy the desert running, just beware that dehydration comes quickly.

       

      Ccoakley - Glad to hear your recovery is on track.  No, I don't have any plans yet for my next quest.  Due to so many races happening in late September and early October, it will be a few years yet before I can get them all done.  After that, maybe I'll just pick some of my favorites and focus on running them better.

       

      Cfarr - Thank you.  Good luck with the HM if you choose to run it.

       

      James - Thanks.  Sorry to hear you were still sore after your 5k.  Any better now?

       

      Piwi - Thank you.

       

      Hash - Nice week of running.

       

      As usual, apologies if I've missed anyone.

       

      After running 6 halves in the past 7 months, it feels a little weird not to be looking forward to one in the near future.  I won't even be into my "official" training cycle for more than a month.  But then, summer is not half marathon season for someone like me, who really wilts when running in the heat for long.

      5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 39:24 (11/21); 10k 50:32 (10/21); Half 1:50:46 (4/22)

      Upcoming race(s): Crest Best Half Marathon, 10/9
      CommanderKeen


      Aspiring Hobby Jogger

        Flavio - You may not find a person being able to reach the top shelf a superpower, but all the shorties who ask me to grab stuff off that shelf certainly do!
        Does your outfit for the race qualify you as a MAMIL?

        5k: 18:05 8/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

         

        Upcoming Races:

         

        Wurst Race Half - 10/8

        Toyota Music Factory Half - 11/13

        CIM - 12/4

        flavio1980


        Intl. correspondent

          I'm not entirely sure if it contains Lycra, it feels like Polyester 😁

          Does your outfit for the race qualify you as a MAMIL?

          PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

          Up next: 10K Family race

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          Marky_Mark_17


            Mark - Thank you.  Yes, running harder courses requires a different approach, and I think I'm finally at the point where I can do that consistently (I've run 37 halves, so I like to think I've learned at least a little bit).  Interesting review of your training block and good to see your positive outlook (and having already gotten permission for next year's race).

             

            After running 6 halves in the past 7 months, it feels a little weird not to be looking forward to one in the near future.  I won't even be into my "official" training cycle for more than a month.  But then, summer is not half marathon season for someone like me, who really wilts when running in the heat for long.

             

            You're ahead of me!  I am on 33 (total, that is... not in the last 7 months).  But yes it is always good fun looking at the profile for a new course and trying to figure out the best tactics.  I was lucky enough to learn that on some challenging hilly courses near where I live.

             

            We are into the winter lull here now too - very few races here over the next 3 months other than Wellington which Steve is doing.  It's a bit of a shame as winter is excellent for racing at least in the upper North Island.  I will probably throw the odd Parkrun in there just to keep the race sharpness up, as much as those 10k races over summer were hot, humid slogs at times, they definitely had me sharp by the time Omaha HM rolled around (and I needed to be too!).

            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

            * Net downhill course

            Last race: National 10km Road Champs, 4 Sept, 34:13

            Up next: Nelson Half Marathon, 6 Nov

            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

            Fredford66


            Running Musician

               

              You're ahead of me!  I am on 33 (total, that is... not in the last 7 months).  But yes it is always good fun looking at the profile for a new course and trying to figure out the best tactics.  I was lucky enough to learn that on some challenging hilly courses near where I live.

               

              We are into the winter lull here now too - very few races here over the next 3 months other than Wellington which Steve is doing.  It's a bit of a shame as winter is excellent for racing at least in the upper North Island.  I will probably throw the odd Parkrun in there just to keep the race sharpness up, as much as those 10k races over summer were hot, humid slogs at times, they definitely had me sharp by the time Omaha HM rolled around (and I needed to be too!).

               

              This is probably why the half I've run most often (4 times) is the Fred Lebow half, which takes place in January, and the second most frequent (3) is the E. Murray Todd at the beginning of March.  The weather is usually good for halves and there aren't a lot of other choices.  What puzzles me is how many halves are offered in mid to late September, when it's often still quite warm (and humid) here.  I've run four September halves and the only one with what I consider a decent result was on an unseasonably cold day (and then there was the one where the temperature was 72º and the dew point was 70º - a lot of DNFs that day).  I tend to spend the summer on shorter races.

              5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 39:24 (11/21); 10k 50:32 (10/21); Half 1:50:46 (4/22)

              Upcoming race(s): Crest Best Half Marathon, 10/9
              Fredford66


              Running Musician

                After my previous post, I thought I'd review my five slowest halves - the only times I've taken over 2:10 to run a half.  I figure we all celebrate our successes, so maybe I should celebrate some less than successful races.

                 

                Ocean City - 2:12:15.  A warm day, but made worse by my sore throat.  I probably shouldn't have run, but I'd driven 2+ hours and spent the night in a hotel to run the race with two friends, so I pressed on.

                 

                Hunterdon Half - 2:13:51.  No weather excuses.  I just wasn't prepared for mile 9.  I wasn't the only one walking that hill.  Some day, I'm going to try it again.

                 

                Newport Half - 2:16:04.  The aforementioned race where the humidity was almost 100% with the dew point at 70º (21C).  At least it was cloudy, not like the next one.

                 

                Walkway Half - 2:19:43.  This was a race in June, close to the longest day of the year, that didn't start until 9:00am, so by 10:30...

                ...and I was having allergy problems to top it off.

                 

                Frozen Bonsai - 2:26:07.  This is what happens when I run a half just two days after being purged by a Norovirus.  (In a weird way, I'm a little proud of this one for just having finished.)

                5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 39:24 (11/21); 10k 50:32 (10/21); Half 1:50:46 (4/22)

                Upcoming race(s): Crest Best Half Marathon, 10/9
                Marky_Mark_17


                  Fred, this is an excellent idea!  I also ran a half a few days after having some gastro bug.  I was fine until around 14km and then ran out of gas quite quickly.  And wow, mile 9 at Hunterdon... that's OUCH.

                   

                  5 Races that didn't quite go as planned

                   

                  Hawkes Bay Half Marathon (May 2016)

                  Having only had 6 weeks training after breaking my big toe (I dropped a weight on it at the gym... doh) I had unrealistically high expectations which quickly came crashing down on an unusually warm day.

                   

                  Devonport Half Marathon (Oct 2018)

                  Thought I'd recovered from a stomach bug earlier in the week.  Nope... around two-thirds of the way through I ran out of gas having felt fine up until that point.  Managed to hold on to second but was about 500m away from getting run down.

                   

                  Southern Lakes Half Marathon (May 2022)

                  Spent the last 6 weeks basically trying to dodge Covid.  Turns out a regular cold will mess your race up perfectly fine as well.  I am incredibly proud of my effort here the previous year but this time it was just about hanging on.

                   

                  Maraetai Half Marathon (March 2019)

                  Hot, humid, and a slightly dodgy stomach resulted in my slowest HM time since the Devonport stomach bug episode.

                   

                  Auckland 10k Road Race Champs (Aug 2018)

                  Think you are in the form to run a PB?  Bruce Pulman Park AKA the Bruce Pulman Wind Tunnel will have other ideas.  Exactly 1 second off a PB thanks to old mate Bruce's wind.

                  3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                  10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                  * Net downhill course

                  Last race: National 10km Road Champs, 4 Sept, 34:13

                  Up next: Nelson Half Marathon, 6 Nov

                  "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    Just trying to get caught back up on everything, it has been very busy on here.

                    Watson sorry to hear about your calf hope it is doing better.

                    Piwi hope your daughter had a safe trip to Australia

                    Flavio nice race report, Great job with so little mileage nice costume too love the cape

                    PR's

                    1m  5:38 (2018)

                    5k    19:59 (2019)

                    HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                    FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                    watsonc123


                      Hashiritai and Zebano - my 10km PR is on the same course as Hash.  It's a fast field which helps a lot.

                       

                      I tried running yesterday, and the calf is no good.  So I'll be off for a while.

                       

                      Hashiritai - I won't be racing tomorrow.  I might come and watch. What's your teams bib code?

                      PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                       

                      40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                      watsonc123


                        Mark - I'm not sure missing a PR by 1s really counts as not going to plan!

                        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                         

                        40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                        flavio1980


                        Intl. correspondent

                          Corey - good luck at the mountains to main Half tomorrow

                          PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

                          Up next: 10K Family race

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                          Marky_Mark_17


                            Yep - good luck tomorrow Corey!

                            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                            * Net downhill course

                            Last race: National 10km Road Champs, 4 Sept, 34:13

                            Up next: Nelson Half Marathon, 6 Nov

                            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                              Hashiritai and Zebano - my 10km PR is on the same course as Hash.  It's a fast field which helps a lot.

                               

                              I tried running yesterday, and the calf is no good.  So I'll be off for a while.

                               

                              Hashiritai - I won't be racing tomorrow.  I might come and watch. What's your teams bib code?

                               

                              Watson - Yep, that 10km course is certainly a fast field! And with all the loops everyone stays close, which certainly a great motivation. I love the downhill fast finish.

                               

                              Our team bib is W11. Think I'm running the 2nd leg, unless we change it up. Stink about your calf. Hope it heals up soon.

                              50+ age-group PBs:  Half Perish 1:28:11 (Sept '22 - Sandy Point Off-Road Half) - 10km 37:52 (2022 Wellington Road Champs); - Track 5km 18:49 (Aug '22); Track Mile 5:32 (2021)

                              2022 Goals: Half Perish 4:00 pace - Road/Track 10km 3:45 pace - 5km 3:35 pace

                              2022 Races: Southland Half Perish Sept 18 - Southland 10 Miler Oct 9

                               

                                Steve and Fred Nice race reports congrats again to both of you!

                                 

                                I signed up for Mountains to Main yesterday so I'll be racing tomorrow 5/14. hope to have a good race! I think I am targeting

                                sub 1:37. not sure if that is in the card or not but we shall see.

                                Race starts at 7am so I will have to get up and out of the house by 5:15- 5:30 at the latest to get there and get ready.

                                PR's

                                1m  5:38 (2018)

                                5k    19:59 (2019)

                                HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                                FM  3:23:07 (2018)