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    - Sony and AMC were initially reluctant to cast Bryan Cranston because of his previous comedic roles and considered both John Cusack and Matthew Broderick for Walter White. When they both declined, Vince Gilligan got to cast Cranston.

     

    For real?!  I like those guys, but that show would have failed with either of them.  Neither has done anything I would consider particularly heavy or dark (and as much as I like Cusack, he sorta plays the same lovable goof character in just about everything he does).  And they're too young…or at least play too young.  I'm not really sure who else could have done that part justice.

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      - Sony and AMC were initially reluctant to cast Bryan Cranston because of his previous comedic roles and considered both John Cusack and Matthew Broderick for Walter White. When they both declined, Vince Gilligan got to cast Cranston.

       

      I find this curious (I watched the entire series via the marathon prior to the finale on DVR).  Broderick and Cusack both have solid careers IMHO, but both are also solidly in the comedic, soft-cheek-babyfaced crowd.  I can't imagine either effectively and convincingly making the transition to the "dark side" that Cranston effectively executed.  While he had prior screen experience, he was not as well known and not as stereotyped into the comedic role.

       

      A large part of the success of many series is the more or less luck in casting the right person into the right role at the right time.  Breaking Bad, IMHO, is a prime example of this.

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        - Vince Gilligan revealed that AMC allowed only one use of the term 'fuck' per season. Gilligan took this opportunity and used it with effect at all times.

         

        Wow. Somehow that was not noticeable. Offhand I guess I can remember only two instances, from the first episode and near the end of the last season.

         

        MTA oh... and his confrontation with Gretchen. Was that second season?

           

           I'm not really sure who else could have done that part justice.

           

          Maybe Kevin Spacey.

          Dave

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          rectumdamnnearkilledem

             

            Maybe Kevin Spacey.

             

            Yup, that would be one.  I think Robin Williams or Jim Carrey could have possibly done it, too…though too many people only see the funny guys.  It's kind of interesting thinking of other actors/actresses who could have filled those roles.  I think Jesse Pinkman would have been the toughest to sub.

            Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

            remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.    

                 ~ Sarah Kay

               

               It's kind of interesting thinking of other actors/actresses who could have filled those roles.  I think Jesse Pinkman would have been the toughest to sub.

               

              I'm gonna say maybe a younger Edward Norton. Of course an older Edward Norton could probably do WW. I guess my point is Edward Norton can play anyone.

              Dave

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              rectumdamnnearkilledem

                 

                I'm gonna say maybe a younger Edward Norton. Of course an older Edward Norton could probably do WW. I guess my point is Edward Norton can play anyone.

                 

                Robert Downy Jr. could probably have done WW, too…though he might be too pretty.  He definitely has the range and intensity.  Michael Fassbender would have been a viable candidate, too.

                 

                I'm having a tougher time with Skylar.  Anna Gunn did a really amazing job alternating between warm and maternal and ice queen.  Sometimes it felt like every-other episode I was a fan of Skylar.  Other times I wanted to slap her…such a conniving hypocrite.

                Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

                remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.    

                     ~ Sarah Kay

                   

                  Robert Downy Jr. could probably have done WW, too…though he might be too pretty.  He definitely has the range and intensity.  Michael Fassbender would have been a viable candidate, too.

                   

                  I'm having a tougher time with Skylar.  Anna Gunn did a really amazing job alternating between warm and maternal and ice queen.  Sometimes it felt like every-other episode I was a fan of Skylar.  Other times I wanted to slap her…such a conniving hypocrite.

                   

                  I might have trouble seeing the geeky/loser side of your WW candidates. Although I agree Downey can pretty much do anything.

                   

                  And regarding Skyler alternating between warm & cold...um...doesn't that describe all women?

                  Dave

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                  rectumdamnnearkilledem

                    And regarding Skyler alternating between warm & cold...um...doesn't that describe all women?

                     

                    She takes that to some crazy extremes, though!  Serious Jekyll & Hyde thing going on.

                    Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

                    remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.    

                         ~ Sarah Kay

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                      I find this curious (I watched the entire series via the marathon prior to the finale on DVR).  Broderick and Cusack both have solid careers IMHO, but both are also solidly in the comedic, soft-cheek-babyfaced crowd.  I can't imagine either effectively and convincingly making the transition to the "dark side" that Cranston effectively executed.  While he had prior screen experience, he was not as well known and not as stereotyped into the comedic role.

                       

                      A large part of the success of many series is the more or less luck in casting the right person into the right role at the right time.  Breaking Bad, IMHO, is a prime example of this.

                       

                      I dunno...at the start of each of those three episodes I watched, I had to kind of subconsciously set myself down and say, "Okay...he's not Malcolm's dad anymore.  You are not going to laugh at him."

                       

                      But sure, his comedic work wasn't nearly as well-known as Cusack or Broderick.  Speaking of those two, though, they can do a decent job on the "dark side."  I'm already wasting enough time posting, don't want to waste more on an IMDb search, but I seem to recall seeing both in something that was pretty dramatic, and way out of quirky romantic comedy territory.  Probably not up (down?) to BB standards, but I bet they didn't embarrass themselves in the parallel universes where they got cast.

                       

                      For my money, Cranston's understudy would be Philip Seymour Hoffman.

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                        I think Downey could've been credible as WW, but he almost has too much charisma.  I would've had a hard time with Matthew Broderick, but I believe Cusack could've pulled it off.

                         

                        Yes, Spacey could've been WW, but like Downey, I think it might've been tricky having such a "force of nature"-type actor in what starts out as such a small (figuratively) role.  Speaking of which, I forgot to recommend House of Cards on Netflix, which starts Season 2 soon.  I would summarize that show as follows:  Kevin Spacey in Washington, DC being Awesome.

                         

                        An actor that I think could've pulled off a great Walter White is Michael Keaton, who is way too talented to not be working more, IMO.

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                          We have 2 episodes left!  Damn, I realized about midway through the 3rd-to-last episode that I was holding my breath.  INTENSE!!  I'm almost afraid of what could possibly be left for 2 more episodes.

                           

                          Once we're done I need to find a chart documenting every death and means of disposal.  Wowsers!  It's worse than a Shakespearean tragedy in terms of body count!

                           

                          I watch Sons of Anarchy, so I'm immune to body counts by now!  I just finished watching BB and it was truly a great series.  I also really loved Jesse by the end.  I was so surprised at how much my opinions of the characters changed during the series.  A couple of people I work with watched it also and they warned me after season 3 to "just wait" if I felt a little sympathy for WW.  I even disliked Hank in the beginning and liked him by the end.  The character development of ALL the characters was really something to see.  That's one thing that made this different.  Usually you don't get that much character development with so many of them.  It's usually more limited to just a couple of people.  Really great series!!!

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                            For my money, Cranston's understudy would be Philip Seymour Hoffman.

                             

                            Ooh, I like that. Although, it might be hard to swallow Philip Seymour Hoffman as a believable nice normal guy he's so goood at the deviant.

                            TxDiverMom


                               

                              Whoa, you missed some big shit, then!  That would have stressed me out, too.

                               

                              After that episode Walt Jr. might have been my favorite character on the entire show.  That kid is awesome.  And I'd love to see that actor cast a lot more.  Baby Holly might be one of the best infant actors I've ever seen, too.  Getting a child that small to respond perfectly to cues is really astounding.  Kind of like the discussion in the cats in movies thread…cats and babies have got to be about the worst actors to work with! Tongue

                               

                              I really want to know why Baby Holly ALWAYS wore a hat or cap.  I imagined that she had some weird color hair or something that made her not fit in if we saw her head.  It was just strange to me.  LOL!

                                 

                                I dunno...at the start of each of those three episodes I watched, I had to kind of subconsciously set myself down and say, "Okay...he's not Malcolm's dad anymore.  You are not going to laugh at him."

                                 

                                But sure, his comedic work wasn't nearly as well-known as Cusack or Broderick.  Speaking of those two, though, they can do a decent job on the "dark side."  I'm already wasting enough time posting, don't want to waste more on an IMDb search, but I seem to recall seeing both in something that was pretty dramatic, and way out of quirky romantic comedy territory.  Probably not up (down?) to BB standards, but I bet they didn't embarrass themselves in the parallel universes where they got cast.

                                 

                                For my money, Cranston's understudy would be Philip Seymour Hoffman.

                                 

                                Hoffman - not bad!

                                Broderick dark-ish side = Election (great movie), You Can Count on Me

                                Cusack dark side = ??? closest I can come up with is Being John Malkovich, but more quirky than dark

                                Dave