2021 Sub 3:00 Marathon Thread (Read 448 times)

OMR


    Congrats RP and cal!!!  RP, that’s insane!

     

    And congrats Mikkey on Valencia!!  Hope the nose is OK!

    JMac11


    Milkman

      I'm pretty sure something happened to Keen barring massive chip failure. I hope it's not a serious health issue.

       

      ETA he just crossed the 40K. Looks like he either had to walk or had a stop at the medical tent. Sucks.

      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

       

      Next Race: Grandma's Marathon (6/18)

      flavio1980


      Intl. correspondent

        I think the tracker moves at the previous average speed and stops when the predicted time does not happen.

        It's possible Keen had to walk early soon after 30k

        PRs: 1500 4:51 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

        Up next: Portuguese National Master champs 1500m 2022-06-18

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        need2tri


          CK is moving now. It does look like the same situation as his story from before.  Darn it, this sucks!

          flavio1980


          Intl. correspondent

            What's bizarre is that if he kept running at the end of any of his recent long runs he'd have finished in under 3h20.

            He even ran a massive workout of 20 miles with 15 at MP.

            I'll be curious to hear what happened there.

            PRs: 1500 4:51 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

            Up next: Portuguese National Master champs 1500m 2022-06-18

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            SteveChCh


            Hot Weather Complainer

              RP is the guy who says he didn't study then gets an A+.

               

              CK could have had an injury.  Be interested to hear what happened between 30 and 40km.  He's about to finish now by the looks of it.

              Net Downhill PB Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2022 1:27:32, Flat Course PB Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

              Recent Races:   Southern Lakes Half Marathon 1:27:32 May 7, 2022, Motorway 10km 40:49 February 27, 2022, Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon 1:29:32  November 7, 2021

              Race plan:  Wellington Half Marathon June 19, 2022 (likely marathon tempo session). Melbourne Marathon October 2, 2022.  Queenstown Half Marathon November 19, 2022

              JMac11


              Milkman

                What's bizarre is that if he kept running at the end of any of his recent long runs he'd have finished in under 3h20.

                He even ran a massive workout of 20 miles with 15 at MP.

                I'll be curious to hear what happened there.

                 

                Same. A fade to 3:05 or something could have been "not my day" or maybe just the marathon distance isn't his strongest distance. This is something completely different. That MP workout he did was around 7:00 pace if I recall correctly but he wasn't even tired, indicating sub 3:00 was definitely there.

                 

                Either way, we can dissect his race later. For now, I hope he is okay.

                5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                 

                Next Race: Grandma's Marathon (6/18)

                flavio1980


                Intl. correspondent

                  Keen finished in 4:07:53

                  PRs: 1500 4:51 2019 - 5K 17:56 2021 HM 1:21:59 2021

                  Up next: Portuguese National Master champs 1500m 2022-06-18

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                  Marky_Mark_17


                    Outstanding stuff RP, honestly dude you are way better than you realise.

                     

                    Well done to Cal as well.  Hope all is OK with Keen.

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Southern Lakes HM, 7 May, 1:12:42 (May-22)

                    Up next: Auckland 10km Road Champs, 20 August

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    JMac11


                    Milkman

                      I just looked at RP's Strava. I have used the word insane one too many times, but I will say it again: that pacing he put up was INSANE. I haven't seen a race that well executed in a long time, especially for a guy who had no idea what pace he was going to run with little practice. A metronome out there.

                      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                       

                      Next Race: Grandma's Marathon (6/18)

                      SteveChCh


                      Hot Weather Complainer

                        Looking at Keen's Strava, something happened around 34km.  There was no gradual fade, the pace was consistent around the target then suddenly dropped which could mean injury.  I know Keen will be hurting, and I'm feeling it too.  No-one deserves results as much as he does.  Hope the damage isn't too bad and you will fight another day.

                         

                        RP - That race on Strava is a work of art.

                        Net Downhill PB Southern Lakes Half Marathon 2022 1:27:32, Flat Course PB Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                        Recent Races:   Southern Lakes Half Marathon 1:27:32 May 7, 2022, Motorway 10km 40:49 February 27, 2022, Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon 1:29:32  November 7, 2021

                        Race plan:  Wellington Half Marathon June 19, 2022 (likely marathon tempo session). Melbourne Marathon October 2, 2022.  Queenstown Half Marathon November 19, 2022

                        DavePNW


                          Great work, CIM runners!
                          I had a good day. Finished at 3:22:33, missing a PR by 17 seconds. A pee stop cost me. I took everyone’s advice and started slow. Maybe too much; I ended up with something like a 5 minute negative split. But I was passing people like crazy in the final 10k, and it was a blast.

                          Dave

                          Running Problem


                          Problem Child

                            Steve I’m impressed myself. The CIM data makes it uglier than Strava. I actually pulled off a negative split!

                            Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

                            VDOT 54.9

                            5k19:35 | Marathon 2:56:07

                            darkwave


                            Mother of Cats

                              Steve I’m impressed myself. The CIM data makes it uglier than Strava. I actually pulled off a negative split!

                               

                              Wow!  I am so impressed on multiple levels.

                              Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                               

                              And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                              JMac11


                              Milkman

                                Wow Dave, that's a crazy negative split! I guess if you knew you were in PR shape, even with a pee stop, you may have started a bit more aggressively. However, sounds like you had a blast. That's a great time - you should post here more often 

                                5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                                 

                                Next Race: Grandma's Marathon (6/18)