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Dangers of too much protein......as I well suspected was coming.... (Read 127 times)

redrum


Caretaker/Overlook Hotel

    So we've all heard 1 form of protein argument or another.  For those of us who have lifted weights at any given time in our life with an interest in gaining muscle, you've heard it all.  1.5grams of protein per pound of bodyweight.  Or more. (2, some 2.5)  Protein powders fly off store shelves.  Eggs/egg-whites, cottage cheese, yogurt, chicken, chicken & more chicken.

     

    Anywho, here's the latest out of USC.....

     

    "The majority of Americans are eating about twice as much protein as they should be" - Valter Longo of USC tells Forbes.

     

    Interestingly enough it appears to be middle agers who are most at risk.  Specifically cancer risks.  In fact, they called it as risky as SMOKING to the health of middle-aged Americans.

     

    Youth and elderly, however, are still recommended to consume more protein as it can protect against frailty and maintaining a healthy weight. (Plant based proteins preferred over animal based)

     

    The article ----> http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/03/04/the-protein-puzzle-meat-and-dairy-may-significantly-increase-cancer-risk/

     

    Hmmmm    

     Randy

    PADRunner


      Something I've been reading lately. The China Study.


      Hip Redux

        The original article monitored 24 hours worth of eating, and then followed up with these people 18-20 years later.    And they make no distinction between the types of animal protein - there's a difference between eating hot dogs, salami and McDonald's, and fish and chicken.

         

        Love the Half


          The original article monitored 24 hours worth of eating, and then followed up with these people 18-20 years later.    And they make no distinction between the types of animal protein - there's a difference between eating hot dogs, salami and McDonald's, and fish and chicken.

           

          Huh?  The hotdogs have a lot more fat but I can't imagine there is any difference in the structure of the protein molecules.

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          Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

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          Walk-Jogger

            I'll add this to the collection of "things that are killing us":

             

            Salt

            sugar

            fat

            carbs

            gluten

            eating red meat

            not eating red meat

            too much sitting

            too much exercise

            not enough exercise

            too much running

            eating too much

            eating too little

            not drinking enough water

            drinking too much water

            too much alcohol

            not enough alcohol

            coffee

            caffeine

            not enough sleep

            too much sleep

            . . .

             

            feel free to add whatever else you can think off. . .

            Retired &  Loving It


            Hip Redux

               

              Huh?  The hotdogs have a lot more fat but I can't imagine there is any difference in the structure of the protein molecules.

               

              Have you ever looked at the ingredient lists of hot dogs?  There's a lot more going on than just protein molecules.

               

              If you are going to study people's intake of "protein", it's important to know where they are getting their protein from.   The study doesn't distinguish between the person eating 40 grams of protein along with a year's worth of nitrates from a hot dog and the person eating 40 grams of protein from fresh salmon.  There's a difference in the quality of food being eaten and the study ignores it for just a calculation of macronutrients and animal vs. plant.

               

              LRB


                I have no comment on consuming too much protein as I am now only around 45 grams per day, but being a vegetarian for four years has some in my family convinced that I am wasting away to nothing.

                 

                Meanwhile those who did not know me when I was 205 LBS consider me the picture of perfect health.

                 

                Perspective; it can be a bitch. 

                LRB


                  For those of us who have lifted weights at any given time in our life with an interest in gaining muscle, you've heard it all. 1.5grams of protein per pound of body weight. 

                   

                  I routinely consumed 250 - 300 grams of protein per day during the height of my weight lifting days.  I was a lean protein eating machine.  Shit, even my muscles had muscles! lol

                  catwhoorg


                  Labrat

                    I'll add this to the collection of "things that are killing us":

                     

                    Salt

                    sugar

                    fat

                    carbs

                    gluten

                    eating red meat

                    not eating red meat

                    too much sitting

                    too much exercise

                    not enough exercise

                    too much running

                    eating too much

                    eating too little

                    not drinking enough water

                    drinking too much water

                    too much alcohol

                    not enough alcohol

                    coffee

                    caffeine

                    not enough sleep

                    too much sleep

                    . . .

                     

                    feel free to add whatever else you can think off. . .

                     

                    Air.

                     

                    Its about ~20% oxidant. That stuff will literally combust with a fuel source. Its dangerous.

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                    FreeSoul87


                    Runs4Sanity

                      I try to aim between 75 and 110 grams a day.

                      Is that 1.5 x total weight?

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                      10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                      15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

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                       26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                      Awood_Runner


                      Smaller By The Day

                        This will change again soon.  Seriously, moderation is good.  Don't freak about every study.  That's how we ended up ditching coconut oil for trans-fats in the 80's.  Relax.  Eat some meat, some fruit, some veggies, some grains, etc.  You know if your diet sucks.  You don't need a study.

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                        5K 31:02 Sept. 2012 / 23:36 Sept. 2013 (Same Course)

                        10K 48:59 April 2013

                        HM 2:03:56 Nov. 2012 / 1:46:50 March 2013

                        MARATHON 3:57:33 Nov. 2013

                        Awood_Runner


                        Smaller By The Day

                          I'll add this to the collection of "things that are killing us":

                           

                          Salt

                          sugar

                          fat

                          carbs

                          gluten

                          eating red meat

                          not eating red meat

                          too much sitting

                          too much exercise

                          not enough exercise

                          too much running

                          eating too much

                          eating too little

                          not drinking enough water

                          drinking too much water

                          too much alcohol

                          not enough alcohol

                          coffee

                          caffeine

                          not enough sleep

                          too much sleep

                          . . .

                           

                          feel free to add whatever else you can think off. . .

                          Too much sun

                          Not enough sun

                          Sunscreen

                          Improvements

                          Weight 100 pounds lost

                          5K 31:02 Sept. 2012 / 23:36 Sept. 2013 (Same Course)

                          10K 48:59 April 2013

                          HM 2:03:56 Nov. 2012 / 1:46:50 March 2013

                          MARATHON 3:57:33 Nov. 2013

                          happylily


                            You all make me feel guilty. I have no idea how many grams of protein I consume in a day, or how many calories for that matter. Do you all weigh your food? Doesn't it take the fun out of eating?

                            PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                                    Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                            18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

                            FreeSoul87


                            Runs4Sanity

                              Lol, I range my calorie intake around....1500-2000 daily, and maybe 2000-2400 on the days of my long runs and that is a struggle. I'd much rather be out running than wondering what I am going to eat.

                               

                              You all make me feel guilty. I have no idea how many grams of protein I consume in a day, or how many calories for that matter. Do you all weigh your food? Doesn't it take the fun out of eating?

                              *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                              PRs

                              5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                              10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                              15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                              13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                               26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                              happylily


                                Lol, I range my calorie intake around....1500-2000 daily, and maybe 2000-24000 on the days of my long runs and that is a struggle. I'd much rather be out running than wondering what I am going to eat.

                                 

                                 

                                24,000 calories... That could explain the stubborn pounds on you you have been complaining about. 

                                PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                                        Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                                18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

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