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I'm taking a performance enhancing drug (Read 120 times)


Hip Redux

    I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism - doing some research on Dr. Google came up with this running-related article:

     

    Dr. Brown treats runners for a disorder not known to afflict them. His patients' medal count: 15 Olympic golds

     

     

    Holy crap, I could be Olympics bound!  :banana dance:

     

    But the part I thought was interesting was the % of runners training with Salazar on treatment (average is usually ~5%).  Is hypothyroidism more common in elite athletes, or are they really fudging something here?

     

    "It's unclear exactly how many elite athletes are being treated for thyroid disorders, but of the 30 athletes who have trained with Salazar as part of Nike's elite team of distance runners, he said that five—or 17% --have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism."

     

    scappodaqui


    rather be sprinting

      Maybe I'm just a Salazar apologist, but when I was overtrained last year, my T3/T4 was high (aka hypothyroid). I didn't take meds specifically for that, but I had to change my diet a lot and also treat my vanishingly low estrogen.

       

      I'm sorry to hear you were diagnosed hypothyroid!  I hope the meds help.

      PRs: 5k 19:25, mile 5:38, HM 1:30:56

      Lifting PRs: bench press 125lb, back squat 205 lb, deadlift 245lb


      Hip Redux

        Wouldn't high T4 be hyperthyroid?

        I actually wouldn't be surprised if the stress of being an elite athlete causes adrenal issues.  But I wonder if it's endurance activities primarily or are there a bunch of football players with low thyroid numbers too.

         

        bluerun


        Super B****

          I guess I'm taking them too, then!!  (Actually, wait.  I was already taking them when I started running, I think.  So any improvement has nothing to do with that.  Maybe I should demand a dosage increase...)

          chasing the impossible

           

          because i never shut up ... i blog

          catwhoorg


          Labrat

            Hypothyroidism is a natural consequence of some aggressive training regimes.

             

            The sports science guys covered this pretty well

            http://www.sportsscientists.com/2013/04/the-thyroid-medication-debate-is-it-doping-brief-thoughts/

             

            TSH is not on the WADA prohibited list.

            So even if it does enhance performance (right now that jury is out), its not a banned PED.

            5K  20:23  (Vdot 48.7)   9/9/17

            10K  44:06  (Vdot 46.3)  3/11/17

            HM 1:33:48 (Vdot 48.6) 11/11/17

            FM 4:13:43 (Vdot 35.4) 3/4/18

             


            Hip Redux

              TSH is not on the WADA prohibited list.

              So even if it does enhance performance (right now that jury is out), its not a banned PED.

               

              TSH is the thyroid stimulating hormone which causes the increase in T4 (as I understand it).  The supplement would be levothyroxine.  But I doubt that's on the banned list, either.

               

              Runner's World put out this article after the WSJ one I posted in the OP was published.

               

              catwhoorg


              Labrat

                Levothyroxine also isn't on the list.

                 

                (I looked at the soon to be implemented 2014 list, rather than the 2013 list, but they are only a few minor changes between them).

                5K  20:23  (Vdot 48.7)   9/9/17

                10K  44:06  (Vdot 46.3)  3/11/17

                HM 1:33:48 (Vdot 48.6) 11/11/17

                FM 4:13:43 (Vdot 35.4) 3/4/18

                 


                #artbydmcbride

                  Oski, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid also and have been on low dose of levothyroxine for over a year.  And I regret to say I am running slower than ever......but I also have some sort of hamstring injury.  So....who knows  Smile

                   

                  Runners run


                  Hip Redux

                    Oski, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid also and have been on low dose of levothyroxine for over a year.  And I regret to say I am running slower than ever......but I also have some sort of hamstring injury.  So....who knows  Smile

                     

                    DAMMIT.  Don't tell me that.  I was ready to kick some ass.


                    Though between you, me and blue maybe the hypo link is to being injured.

                     

                    meaghansketch


                      I was recently diagnosed as potentially hypothyroid as well.  In August my Thyroid tested borderline-low (4.21, considered by some doctors to be normal, considered by some to be low enough to need threatment) so my doctor decided to give it three months and see whether it stayed low or whether it was just a weird fluctuation.

                       

                      So I guess we'll see later this month what those results are.

                       

                      I do have hypothyroidism in my family, so I have reason to believe it's not just a training volume thing.

                       

                      It's been a little weird for me because so many of the symptoms of hyopthyroidism (energy level stuff especially) is so subjective.  On the one hand I think-- I'm able to train relatively hard (up to 60 mpw with 2 speed workouts) -- obviously I don't have hypothyroidism.  On the other hand, by the end of the day I'm so tired that other stuff in my life suffers-- I am usually too tired to cook dinner and just microwave something to eat, and my other chores pile up and have to wait for the weekend because I just have no energy for anything other than just sitting.

                       

                      I don't even know which way I hope it turns out.  On one hand, I really don't want to be dependent on medication, but on the other hand...  if a thyroid issue were holding back my progress in running, and I was able to get that back to normal, I do wonder what I could accomplish.  Obviously I'm not going to the Olympics (hah!) but maybe I could make a little more progress than I have.

                       

                      Hope the diagnosis and the treatment are helpful to you!

                       

                      Scap, if you're still reading the thread, how did you change your diet?  Did it help?  I've upped my B and D vitamins but I'm having trouble separating the wheat from the chaff in all the thyroid advice that's everywhere online.

                      bluerun


                      Super B****

                         

                        DAMMIT.  Don't tell me that.  I was ready to kick some ass.


                        Though between you, me and blue maybe the hypo link is to being injured.

                         

                        Well... Ryan Hall is supposedly hypothyroid...

                         

                        Also, meaghan, before I was diagnosed my running didn't really suffer (though I had a bunch of other crap going on at the time so I was sucking at that anyway), I was just generally exhausted much like you describe.

                        chasing the impossible

                         

                        because i never shut up ... i blog

                        meaghansketch



                          Also, meaghan, before I was diagnosed my running didn't really suffer (though I had a bunch of other crap going on at the time so I was sucking at that anyway), I was just generally exhausted much like you describe.

                           

                          Thanks bluerun, it's helpful to hear what your experience was.  This thread (and the fact that all week I've been staying at work late because I feel too tired to start my commute) is making me think about making that doctor appointment sooner rather than later.

                          GC100k


                            I believe all swimmers really do have asthma.

                            bluerun


                            Super B****

                               

                              Thanks bluerun, it's helpful to hear what your experience was.  This thread (and the fact that all week I've been staying at work late because I feel too tired to start my commute) is making me think about making that doctor appointment sooner rather than later.

                               

                              FWIW, my PCP (who is no longer my PCP) pointed out to me that my thyroid levels were off after routine bloodwork... he wouldn't give me meds for it because, in his words, "it's such a small abnormality that any endocrinologist would have to be out of his mind to medicate it."

                               

                              So I went to an endocrinologist, who took great offense to the above comment and did give me Synthroid.  Maybe it's partly a placebo effect, but it made a huge, huge difference for me.

                              chasing the impossible

                               

                              because i never shut up ... i blog


                              Hip Redux

                                From what I have seen, thyroid stuff is really subjective.  My TSH is 6.3 - my friend said that at that level, she'd feel like death.  Me - I feel fine.   I'm on the "for sure" high end, but I have no classic hypo symptoms - no fatigue, no weight gain, etc.   Strange stuff.

                                 

                                I definitely feel like I have more energy, but I am not yet sure it's a good thing since it's mostly nervous/jittery energy.

                                 

                                But if I run faster, maybe it'll be worth it. Tongue

                                 

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