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I am considering trying a Ryan Hall program for my next HM. To those of you who have used one, how did you like it? Likes and dislikes? It seems different because many of the runs, for example, are something like "45 minutes aerobic pace" or "90 minutes easy pace." Is this just a different way of saying "10 miles at a 9:00 pace?" Is there less emphasis on mileage? Perhaps I am over thinking it...
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Jack,
I used it for my Half (Short Program) and it was really tough but my half was pretty easy (1:49:59, first half) The hardest part was choosing paces. I programmed everything into the Garmin which made for less thinking out running. I only ran once or twice on the XT days. I plan on using it agin for my half later next year.
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kween
I've used it, too, and PR'd with it in SF.
I seem to remember there was a key somewhere that helped you define the training paces based on your goal pace. It was 2 years ago, so I could be mis-remembering.
And yes, it was tough, but most people who FOLLOW THE PROGRAM will find success with it.
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BexKix, Bagel Defender
I ran the short program for my first half. Loved it. Personally I needed a mix of workouts and it didn't disappoint. I felt bulletproof after the race sims.
If it said to run by time or miles, I did as it stated. If I would have followed the program more closely it would have been fine on overall mileage I believe.
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can someone post a link? I'd like to check out plan.
PR's - 5K - 20:15 (2013) | 10K - 45:14 (2011) | 13.1 - 1:34:40 (2013) | 26.2 - 3:40:40 (2014)
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See this thread, post #4.
The one I saw and might try is here.
Thanks for the information, everyone. I will probably try it. I don't know if I will PR because the course is very hilly. For those of you who know San Diego, it is the La Jolla HM.
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I've used it 2x and both times ran the pace of the short program while using the more abbreviated recovery periods of the long plan. Both times I wound up finishing 2-3 minutes faster than my goal, and the 2nd time I was shooting for a goal that would have been a 2-minute PR (Goal was 1:43, ran 1:40:10). Both times I also had a couple of tempo workouts in the middle of the plan where I wound up blowing up, but it never happened 2 workouts in a row, so I didn't put too much stock in the tough days. Those happen. I also did some of the longer slow runs on hilly courses and didn't worry about pace on those runs, just effort.
Hope that helps,
Sam
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I used the plan for my HM in October. Do not make mistake that I made. Do not run your tempo and interval runs faster then the plan suggests. I pushed too much and 2 weeks before the HM I got tired and could not keep up with the plan. So I had to cut milage in the second last week. You can see my runs during those 10 weeks, starting August 6th and ending October 14th. There is the race report too. I will be using it again in the fall for the same HM.
Age: 52
Runner since 2012
Marathon PB: 3:40:32
The Ryan Hall plan is one of the better plans I have seen. As always though, it is critical to be flexible. Don't try to crank a particular pace on a given day if your body isn't up for it.
Short term goal: 17:59 5K
Mid term goal: 2:54:59 marathon
Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life. (I started running at age 45).
My problem is that I do not have a heart monitor and I don't plan on getting one. Most or all of the workouts are based on a percentage of your maximum heart rate. At this point, I am comfortable with my easy pace and know how it should feel. Should I base my runs on this? Is guessing on the tempo and interval runs good enough?
Thanks, you guys.