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Trent


Good Bad & The Monkey

    Hop Additions

    - 1 oz Amarillo @ 20 mins
    - 1 oz Centennial @ 20 mins
    - 1.5 oz Simcoe @ Flame-out
    - 1 oz Amarillo @ Flame-out
    - 1 oz Centennial @ Flame-out

     

    Dry Hop -
    - 1 oz Amarillo, dry hop 4 – 6 days
    - 1 oz Centennial, dry hop 4 – 6 days
    - 1 oz Simcoe, dry hop 4 – 6 days

    - 4 oz Galaxy split between 4 - 6 days and in the bottle

     


    Prince of Fatness

      German Style IPA

       

      Bottled this up over the weekend.  The dry hop was in there a little longer than I wanted as I just was too busy to bottle on schedule.  Sample tasted pretty good.  I got a lot of the hoppy pils flavor but also got a bit of fruitiness from the Kolsch yeast.  FG was 1.012 yielding 7.5% ABV.

       

      Was contemplating brewing this weekend myself. A Barleywine as a matter of fact. Totally different approach than yours tho.

       

      Did not get to it, but should be able to this coming weekend.  Gonna take the SMaSH to another level.

       

      Maris Otter / Challenger SMaSH (11 quarts)

       

      10 lbs Maris Otter

       

      1 oz Challenger (6.5% AA) 60 minutes

       

      Wyeast 1028 London Ale (1 qt starter)

       

      Mash 151 for 90 minutes.  Draw 2 quartts of the first runnings and boil them down separately to about a pint (add back to main boil with 10 minutes left).  Boil remaining wort for 2 hours.  Chill and pitch yeast.  Bottle in 4 - 5 weeks.

       

      For the mash and sparge I am going to use the cooler instead of the pot and the bag.  Larger grain bills are harder to drain and manage and I am thinking that this will make it easier.

       

      This is about as simple of a barleywine recipe as it gets.  Curious as to what the color will be with the extended boiling.

      Not at it at all. 

      Trent


      Good Bad & The Monkey

        Just took a small sample of bitter monkey out of the fermenter and then chilled it, gave it to my wife and asked her to sniff and tell me what she thought it was (pretending for a moment I did not know what it was I found in the fridge). She said, maybe guava juice? Or mango? Or grapefruit.

         

         

        WhoDatRunner


        Will Crew for Beer

          Just took a small sample of bitter monkey out of the fermenter and then chilled it, gave it to my wife and asked her to sniff and tell me what she thought it was (pretending for a moment I did not know what it was I found in the fridge). She said, maybe guava juice? Or mango? Or grapefruit.

           

           

          I'd drink that.

          Rule number one of a gunfight, bring a gun. Rule number two of a gunfight, bring friends with guns.

          Trent


          Good Bad & The Monkey

            Brewed yesterday and today.

             

            Alcohol 21.1 % ABV

             

            Took two days to get it all done. Ended up with ~8 gallons of this. SG 1.185. Here 2 hours later, after pitching a massive volume of yeast, I already have airlock activity.

             

            Trent


            Good Bad & The Monkey

              Airlocks are bubbling vigorously this morning. That's a big relief. Early and active activity bodes well for good efficiency with this sludge.


              Prince of Fatness

                And here I was all proud of myself that I got an OG reading of 1.095 and this will likely be my first brew over 10% ABV.  Sheesh.

                Not at it at all. 

                Trent


                Good Bad & The Monkey

                  Well cripes. The ferment was very active, then stopped @ 1.130, which is ~7% ABV so far. The yeast is rated to 20-25%. Have aerated like nuts. Gonna get some yeast nutrient today and add it.

                   

                  Worst case, I will clean it up with Brett.

                   

                  Took two days to get it all done. Ended up with ~8 gallons of this. SG 1.185. Here 2 hours later, after pitching a massive volume of yeast, I already have airlock activity.

                   


                  Prince of Fatness

                    Well cripes. The ferment was very active, then stopped @ 1.130, which is ~7% ABV so far. The yeast is rated to 20-25%. Have aerated like nuts. Gonna get some yeast nutrient today and add it.

                     

                    Worst case, I will clean it up with Brett.

                     

                    Update?

                    Not at it at all. 

                    Trent


                    Good Bad & The Monkey

                      I consulted with several professional brewers. Different from the initial information I had, they suggested that when brewing a massive beer such as this that you start with a lower ABV and then continuously feed it with more sugar, nutrients and oxygen to get the SG/ABV up, always keeping it at 1.080 until near goal. But none of that helps me now. There was also some concern that I under pitched, but I pitched with a HUGE load of yeast. Looking back at the whole thing, I actually think that the huge SG and the heat the initial ferment caused killed off the yeast. Of course none of that helps me finish this ferment.

                       

                      So -

                      - Yesterday I set up a bunch of 1L starters, each with a different yeast, using dark DME @ 1.060. One of them had kicked in and fermented down to 1.020 this morning, so I pitched that with loads of aeration and nutrients. Now at work, wondering what is going on. This one, interestingly, was a safalie powdered yeast packet. Next one to go in will likely be the White Yeast 001, California Ale yeast, which also has shown good activity. The plan is to keep pitching yeast for a bit and see what happens.

                       

                      I have two backup plans right now:

                      1. Dilute the wort back down to a more friendly SG and ferment, then freeze concentrate it all back up

                      2. Use Brett to finish the ferment


                      Prince of Fatness

                        I consulted with several professional brewers. Different from the initial information I had, they suggested that when brewing a massive beer such as this that you start with a lower ABV and then continuously feed it with more sugar, nutrients and oxygen to get the SG/ABV up, always keeping it at 1.080 until near goal. But none of that helps me now. There was also some concern that I under pitched, but I pitched with a HUGE load of yeast. Looking back at the whole thing, I actually think that the huge SG and the heat the initial ferment caused killed off the yeast. Of course none of that helps me finish this ferment.

                         

                        OK, mental block on this.  How do you manage to do this and maintain the same volume of wort?

                        Not at it at all. 

                        Trent


                        Good Bad & The Monkey

                          Right. This is the issue. Rather than starting with a super high SG wort as I did, you start with a basic barleywine and feed it syrup or candi sugars (or maple syrup, or molasses, etc).

                          Trent


                          Good Bad & The Monkey

                            I suspect that you can also add the wort like I made a bit at a time so as not to overwhelm the ferment, which would increase volume with the high SG wort.


                            Prince of Fatness

                              I suspect that you can also add the wort like I made a bit at a time so as not to overwhelm the ferment, which would increase volume with the high SG wort.

                               

                              I like this idea better than your prior post as I would think that the flavor of the final product would be better.

                               

                              Hindsight, but I wonder if you could do something like put the buckets in a water bath to dissipate the heat.  Could swap out frozen water bottles as needed.  Agree with the theory that it could have got too hot.

                              Not at it at all. 

                              Trent


                              Good Bad & The Monkey

                                I like this idea better than your prior post as I would think that the flavor of the final product would be better.

                                 

                                Agreed.

                                 

                                Hindsight, but I wonder if you could do something like put the buckets in a water bath to dissipate the heat.  Could swap out frozen water bottles as needed.  Agree with the theory that it could have got too hot.

                                 

                                This is still just a theory. Best would be to use a tank that controls temp from getting too hight or too low. But yeah, I have seen reports of ice baths. Issue is to keep it right at 68F.