Tougher than most, dumber than the rest. "You can not count the miles until you feel them" TVZ
"I've been following Eddy's improvement over the last two years on this site, and it's been pretty dang solid. Sure the weekly mileage has been up and down, but over the long haul he's getting out the door and has turned himself into quite a runner. He's only now just figuring out his potential. Consistency in running is measured in years, not weeks. And over the last couple of years, Eddy's made great strides" Jeff 14 Jan 2009
Hi all, thanks for the responses.
Formationflier, I completely agree my aerobic is not what it should be, which is why I'm definitely going to do this training. It just seemed like most people who were switching to this type of training who ran similar race times were running 10-11 minute mile paces, which is alot faster than the 13-14 minute miles I'm running. I was just checking to see if there was a non-standard formula calculation that might help account for this huge disparity.
From your FAQ however, it looks like the answer is no, without complex tests being done, since most simple tests just find your maximum HR, which doesn't affect your MAF. By the way, your FAQ link should be http://formationflier.spaces.live.com (you mixed up your middle two subdomains).
It sounds like I'm probably being more strict than I need to be with the formula, since I am:
1) not adding +5 bpm for current health
2) subtracting 5 bpm so that I never go over.
I may grant myself 5 of those 10 beats difference, and then just stick to it for the winter.
Good luck Eddy, we'll compare notes in the spring and see how we each fared.
Life is short, play hard!
In the old days (70's) there were no HR monitors and the training motto was to keep it at a conversation pace. Generally if you can talk with you running buddy (or yourself) you are running easy enough for aerobic building.
Same frustrating thing that happened to me. I was running everything at 9 min or less and started HR training and was running 12+. It just takes time. There are many old threads on here that talk about this. Hang in there for the winter and you will see results. The one other thing I would say is this. If you are running 6 min miles, I think you could give yourself 5-10 beats/min more than what you have your max set at. JMO