Oh, a new tread, so fresh and tidy

 

I think my legs are starting to ache.

 

This is what happened to me 10 weeks ago, at the 4 miles/one hour mark.

Only I was sore all the time building up to that 4 miles/one hour point.

(This time I wasn't sore at all until the last couple runs.)

In May I cut back to one-mile and started Learn-To-Run from the beginning

 

Now, my lower legs are....tired?...I feel them....achey.

 

So........sigh.......I'm at my same place all over again, asking myself, Now what?

Actually, I am jogging 70 seconds whereas before (2 months ago) I was probably only jogging 30 seconds at a time.  So I am doing more running in the same distances. I guess this is improvement.

 

So I can either, run anyway.

Everything feels GREAT when I am running, it's the 36-64 hours afterward that I "feel it"

 

Or I can take 3 days off, try again, take another 3 days off.

 

I can't possible run any slower. I am running in the 12s and 13s pace when I am not on a walk break.  So I keep myself out of the 10s and 11s mile pace when actually jogging.  Anything slower and I'd look like a one-legged statue   So I think it's safe to say it's not Speed that is causing this.

 

Increased time on feet/legs?

Running more seconds every other week, and weekly adding a quarter-mile to the LR distance each week.

 

My plan and log seem incremental to me. 

I suppose I am just that Out Of Shape and should take a few days off ?

Or just run on it another run or two, see what happens?

 

 

 

 

hi guys.

 

quick post.  (I hope)

 

Frances, I'd need to know more to really have a good opinion... not that I really know anything but at least I could look at my own experiences & see what worked, or didn't.  I will look more at your log when I have more time... but can you describe a little more what  'feel them' means?  How achey?  Always, or just when you do certain things?  Feeling things seems pretty normal to me, as is some degree of ache.  but I know you had an actual injury, and want to avoid that.  for now, here are 2 links to look at.  http://www.faqs.org/sports-science/Ce-Do/Delayed-Onset-Muscle-Soreness-DOMS.html   http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/injuries/a/doms.htm.   

 

Hi Roberta..  at least, you deserve positive talk with yourself for not giving up!  really, that is worth so much.  I also had a thought about your DD's personal worst comment.   this is probably over simplifying, but I hate to see you worrying about that.  And who am I to say anyway.  But...   if you are really doing your best, in preparing for this race, etc. etc.   then in a way no matter how it turns out it's not your worst.  I know, in a way it is.  but circumstances change, you go through different issues with health & timing & injuries & stress.   So doing the best you can with those circumstances ... how can you criticize that?   sorry didn't mean for this to seem like a lecutre!!!  just tired & out of time.

 

more things to get to, tomorrow i hope.

 

had my longest run today, at least by a little (thanks Kevin )   12.17. or .18, I forget.   Not zippy, but fastest at the end.

 

most important...... LInda... good luck tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!   Let us know how you are as soon as you can!!  (ask DH nicely to bring your laptop.  tell him it's for us, not for you. ;-) )

My leg is really doing better. The constant ache is gone. The constant feel of the sharp cut is gone. I heal sooner after a workout or yard work. I am aiming for Sep to begin running again. If I get insane and start mentioning running before then I want you all to talk me out of it.

 

Light workout today at LA fitness with kayaker dude. We had a real date last night. Dinner and walking around town at night. Wow for the first time I didnt feel like one of the guys.

 

 

 

September?  Ok Laurie.  We'll remember that.  It's so great you're doing better!!   What do you think finally made the difference?     And cool about your date.

Meant to say yesterday, thanks for the new thread start.

 

Frances, I agree with Laurie, Chi Running might really help you.

 

Mike how many miles today?   I went to the Art Fair Saturday.   But I didn't make it to where we spend the most time, & I do like that one best.  I started at the other end.   Next year I flip back again. 

 

Woods Lady.... thanks!   You are very kind.    And not snoopy....  I'll talk about my running plans anytime. . It's nice to be asked.  Esp. when mine aren't so exciting compared to what a lot of people around here are doing.   Still, i think most of us put our whole hearts into what we're doing.     Yep, it is a marthon I'm training for right now.  My first, obviously.  The injury thing we can talk about another time, maybe we can compare notes/strategies.  But I signed up for it (a mid Oct. marathon) in Dec., & re-injured a few things the first week of January.  It's been interesting.     This summer... I don't have much planned, though there are some tune-up races included in the plan. How about you?  I'm supposed to do one next weekend, but I don't see one around here that I'd like to run.   I'm very impressed by your racing!!! 

back to work.  more later, as usual.

 

Hi all -

 

I got home from the hospital yesterday afternoon - nice to have this be outpatient & not spend a bunch of time in the hospital.  So, the gallbladder is out, the surgeon said my liver looked good   and  I'm all doped up on pain meds.  Should be better in a few days..

 

Laurie - day by day, okay?  If you're not ready to run (your body not your mind), then wait til your ready.

 

Frances - just keep swimming...  you will get there.   I agree with Mike, you are doing something & that's what counts.  I have had a rough road for years now due to the asthma (or let's hope the gallbladder), but giving up is never a possiblity.  I always start out at 13 minute miles, and increase as my body is ready.  Yeah, its slow, but its something, and I always know that if I continue it will get better. 

 

Okay off to rest...

Hi Newbies!   I'm happy to say I will be getting out to the woods trail and road soon today.  First time in a while.  I have a month before my 1 year anniversary run of 4.4 at the Scandia Run.  So I have my training plans pretty well figured out.  Econo' says to do at least one hot weather run a week, but the temp here at noon is 57 today.  Think I will bundle up and wear a hat.

dg,  I also am looking for a race to do on the weekend of Aug 1, and can't seem to find one.  I'd like to do a 5K, not too far from home.  Usually there are gobs of races to choose from, but this time they all seem to be relays or ultras, etc.  Good luck on your search.  Hope you find one.  

Hey  flyin, yep - baby steps - the way to go.

FrancesRe.   70 sec. is good!  Over a minute.  Do you walk/run every day or every other?  Guess I could just check out your log.  Hang in there.  

Good runs, and walks too, to all of you.   Woods Lady 

Hi everyone.

Thanks for the kind and helpful words!

 

DOMS, is what I thought it was, and it sounded like it from that article.

It seemed to improve significantly around hour 60+ so I went ahead and ran "on the third day" instead of taking Three Days Off.

Felt great running it (always does, never hurts or aches when in jogging)

Today, not really that sore .......at all.

 

I love rest days !

I can't understand why everyone doesn't like them, or feels as if they need to run when they should take a day off  *wink     

 

I think I will increase Run/Walk Ratio :10 seconds per week on my shorter Tu/Th :40 minute runs, but trail to an older/easier Run/Walk ratio for the weekend Long Runs.  Keep the LR at least :30 to :60 seconds lower ratio on the Long Runs.

Maybe that will give my legs some time to get accustomed to :10-second Jog-segment increases per week on Tu/Th's before I have to subject my legs to LR twice as long at that increase.

And/or maybe I should just be sure to take my 2-days-off-in-a-row after the LR.

And yes, I only Run/Walk  3 times per week, never intend to go out 4 days per week.

I'm just going to keep it at 3 days forever  *wink.

That gives me Every Other Day And a Two-Day Off each week.

 

I've been "swimming:" (arms exercise)  3 times so far on my Off Days.

I'm tempted to bicycle once a week but lately my lower legs have been DOMS so I haven't thought it wisest to get on the bike on Non-running days.

 

Mental note to get into my gym and see whether there is some kind of Rowing/Upper Body workout machine for XT days. 

 

 

Frances, "I should just be sure to take my 2-days-off-in-a-row after the LR". I agree. Especially if youre legs are getting achy. You could always make first day off a yoga/stretching day and 2nd day off a swim/bike/rest day. I always took 2 days off after a long run. Then my first run back was a recovery run (short easy).

 

L's. Good job. Not many of us see the treadmill as fun. But at least you ran. Sounds like you are making progress. Tip #4 (or whatever). Write poetry in your head while you run. Keeps you mind busy.

 

WooHoo Linda! So glad to hear youre home and doing well. My spirit guides and psychic advisers say you will recover in record time and your running/life in general will be much easier.

 

Mike, what is blistering pace?

 

Eliz, kayaking and pics when you can.

 

Deb, youre doing well and have good advice you have for L's, Frances and Woods.

 

1.5 mile lake swim. Felt good. 10 mile easy bike ride with Ali. And 1 hour workout at LaFitness. Felt good all day. But then yesterday I went to swim class and was completely wiped out! My form went all to hell. Every inch ached. My instructor was frustrated because I had perfected freestyle and breaststroke and now I was looking pretty bad. I over did it on Monday. Today 14 mile fairly fasted pace bike ride. Leg is steadily improving. Looking forward to an early morning bike ride with kayaker dude. Trying hard not to get swept up in this thing.

 

Laurie