Good morning Walt....hope you have a good run. And thanks for the start off this Saturday Morning. Well, I am at work today to get caught up on paper work, and to be honest...here also to get my mind off running. I guess I have finally realized I am down for the count for quite awhile. As I have said before, I never really considered myself an injured non runner. I felt like a few weeks off, and I would be fine and back out on the roads training again...but obviously this is NOT the case. OK, I have taken the first step by not being in denial anymore. The next step is to decide to rest and doing nothing, or find some cross training that won't aggravate my foot. I am leaning towards total rest and think my foot will heal up faster doing nothing...but doing nothing will be hard to, but after an adjustment period I guess I will be fine. Then I will be on a diet too like many of the wimmin here to keep my weight in check (geez, and through the Holiday season too ) Thanks for all the encouraging words the past few days. It really has made a huge difference knowing others have gone through the same thing, and have come back stronger than ever. Well tet Buddie, day 20 over and working on 21...now the true taper / "non" running starts. And BTW, you are a great and funny guy, thanks. Thanks Tamster Hope everyone has a good day and runs and such....and remember, embrace and enjoy "The Gift" Runner "Wanna Be" TimBo

I had to go back to yesterday and see for myself.. yup.. jdmom3 really did post. That's exciting! How are you doing Meg? We all agree... injuries just plain suck! When you're injured it's hard to remember running well and when you're running well it's hard to remember being injured. Injuries are also a way to rebuild to a stronger base after the forced down time. Tim... heel spurs are not an issue, it is the torn ligaments/fascia that have to heal.. Heel spurs are really like a ledge but when they do the MRI looking at it from the side it looks like a sharp point. I've got a great MRI shot of mine. Can't imagine that it ever went away and I have no heel pain after the PF healed. Brisk here like Peter had.. 2 mile warmup with Tory at 9:20 pace then 4 mi at 7:54 Total 6 mi in 50:07 (8:21 pace, AHR 156). Wore my Boston Marathon Jacket for the first time on a run.... nice and toasty.

Good Morning! 15 slow miles for me today, the first 7 miles outside in 17 degrees and the next 8 miles on the TM because DH left early and I had to be there for DD. The TM time had several stops and starts as I dealt with DD issues, thirst, and potty stops, but I got the distance in eventually. I’m okay with that, though. I’m not training for anything right now, and just getting the miles in without hurting myself is my main goal. I’m just grateful to be running at all, however slowly. {{{hugs to the injured runners}}} Good luck to the weekend racers!

A 74-year-old blind woman's 1 cent debt to a Massachusetts city has been settled. People from across the country called Attleboro City Hall last week to pay the 1 cent balance owed by Eileen Wilbur for an overdue water and sewer bill. Antonia Viveiros, a former city councilman who does not know Wilbur, wrote a check for one penny. Mayor Kevin Dumas said the whole situation was blown out of proportion. Dumas stated "we would never try and go after a citizen who owed us one penny...I misread the balance...I thought she owed us a dollar." Kevin:

DickyG--does it help if you call it a Chanukah bush?

Actually, when my children were younger...and 99% of their friends were not Jewish..that's exactly what we did. I'd say its a pretty common practice now. Mariposai: Like everyone else, really sorry to hear about your FIL..if he is anything like mine, I'm sure you are great pals. Craneium: The Dexter story...hilarious..that needs to be filed away for inclusion in your autobiography. Dexter sounds like a real-life Bluto from the Popeye stories. Tammy: I'll (FINALLY) get around to reading your RR..saw some of the posted pics...you looked strong and confident...and you know what tomorrow is... Amy:

To the gym! Beyond the treadmill! To the elliptical!!

Hi-Yo-Silver...up, up and away! Jeanne:

Today was a rest day for me, so I spent the morning helping at one of the homeless shelters here. It's hard to describe the kind of life these people have. I know many would say their problems are self-imposed, but it's still sad to see people live like this.

Very well said! Evryday: Big 6 mile hill run for you yesterday...I sure can't do that. Enke: New cross-training lexicon...brilliant! It's on my fridge... Holly:

15 slow miles for me today, the first 7 miles outside in 17 degrees and the next 8 miles on the TM

Holly...you are the new Dexter. 4.2 windy frigid miles for me...terribly slow 39:58 (9:31)...had to walk some during last 2 miles when I was going uphill and against the wind. The fireplace will be used today! HR was 141 ave. 150 max..about the same as yesterday...and I wore it upside down. DickyG

At 6:00 AM, it was 9 degrees here so I wimped out and went to the Y. 8 miles on the dreadmill, 9:41 pace. I tried to run the last five minutes at an 8:00 minute mile pace but thought I was going to fly off the back of the treadmill and only made it 3, but I sure got my heart rate up there! The next stop was to the store to buy a turkey (they had a coupon in the paper - 48 cents a pound). Tim, you want to meet wimmin - the meat department was swarming with them! The store clerk couldn't throw them (turkeys, not women) in the meat case fast enough. It was almost comical - I kept looking for the hidden Candid Camera. Sarge - go buy some liquid bandaid. That stuff works really well on blisters and cuts. Hopefully, that will stop the blister from causing you any pain during your run. Good luck to all the racers this weekend!

Well tet Buddie, day 20 over and working on 21...now the true taper / "non" running starts. And BTW, you are a great and funny guy, thanks.

thank you very much timmy for your good humor that really helped me deal with bein' so depressed this month at the cancellation of one of my favorite marathons earlier in the month (freebie United We Run NYC Sister Marathon on leafy, barefoot-friendly bike paths that, so it seems, got cease'n'decisted from affiliating with the NYC mary and fizzled w/o a big licensing fee). As a weekend fitness runner often on extended tapers, especially in the winter when there's not so many events to entice me to put on my sneakers, . . . I mean take 'em off, this is the first time I've ever had a nonrunning taper-buddie and it's really helped to be able to check the daily everyday to see if you were still tapering too. I'm really sorry that you're still on the DL and may be for a long time, maybe even giving up running through some of next year too. If so, you can be sure I will be be joining you again for the whole month of December after next weekend's Seattle Marathon and, after the annual New Year's Day Resolution 5K Run and shirtless plunge <>with some of the local goddesses i hope)>>> into Lake Washington, through January, and also February, if necessary too. Divechief's done long injury tapers at least two times after various marathons for up to six months but he really is living proof it can have very special benefits. <>arf/arf)>>> In the meantime, maybe you're already a good swimmer but, with an Ironman in your future (I know you are thinking half but please plan on the full sometime too; if I can, you can), most of swimming power is in the shoulders so, maybe pool run a little bit, but make developing a powerful stroke your goal for the next few months and just let your feet drag behind. Well, it's been a pleasure but, with her taking time to run the first five miles of the inaugural Eugene Marathon with me for real and spiriting me up at the mile 20 goddess aid station - and Portland too, I've been looking forward to ending the current four week taper tomorrow with a virtual tammy run (she doesn't want anyone to know it's her birthday, so don't tell). Why don't you dedicate something tomorrow to her too and maybe start thinking about something in the future you can look foward to too. <>SeattleRnR-tammy&tim/ilene&tim/mariposai&tim/evanika&tim/arf&tim/holly&tim aamos&tim/enkika&tim/franci&tim/marilynmonroe/TBA)>>>

Easy 3 miles on treadmill just to loosen things up for tomorrow's half. blister on back of left heel. the bad rub seems to be unique to these shoes, at least while walking. Suggestions please!

doesn't seem like such a great idea to run in those shoes for 13.1 miles no matter what else you might wear (or not). With regard to the TM, many of my runningbarefoot buddies use the TM in the winter too to avoid ice and snow on their soles plus there's a lot of shoddies running at inclines of 1-2% to avoid heel striking and get used to the mid/forefoot landings recommended for injury-free running by Posetech, ChiRunning, Mindful Running. Incidentally, though many gyms claim to require footwear of some sort, the LIfeFitness reps in Seattle said barefoot is just fine (otherwise, just put on socks, aquasocks, etc.) ====================== nonrunners anonymous - COR 11/21/08 (Friday) lamerunner - 11 erika - 19 twocat - 19 timbi - 20 tet - 27

Actually tetsujin209 I am not so sad to say I have as of today officially dropped out of the 40/0 club! Next step: work my way back to the 40/40 club. So, Holly you better be saving me a spot over in the thread! I plan to be back sometime in December. In the meantime 5 miles with my DW at a blazing 10:00/mile pace. Wow I never thought 5 miles was such a looooong way! biketm hang in there! Running injuries have one really big advantage over most other sports injuries: they heal and heal fully. It is really frustrating now and will be again when you start up again but eventually you will come back and run as well as you ever have yet again.