Greetings veteran runners!
Busy Saturday!
Doug- I started waaaay in the back of the JFK; if there was a female pro triathlete in the race, she was far out in front of me. I have seen the official are photos and a nice video; amazing how fast the front runners are.
Jay slept in long enough to go without his headlamp. I like those Topos, but just ordered a pair of Newtons.
Dnaff cut the outside exercise short due to nasty weather.
Holly- nice photos! Hope you are feeling better.
Karen hit the Dunkin after her 7 miler.
Tet was out around tech waterfront park.
Dave ran 3.2 and got some spiffy new gear.
Denise walked three and worked out upper body and core.
SurlyBill ran a 5/k ez.
Econo is heading out to meet up with Tet.
Twocat- what’s up with the calf?
Mike suffered no ill effects from his booster, so Debbie put him to work. 12 miler snuck in while she wasn’t looking.
Quick got out for 5.
Evanflein- brrrrrr! 6.6 miles @ -8 degrees. I’m sure you’ve seen the thread in the forums here, the “more miles than degrees”.
Moebo- maybe the PCR test will be negative???? I HATE making sub plans too.
Stumpy had 7 on Friday and 5 yesterday.
BTY- strength workout and 1850 in the pool
Leslie is hanging out with cats at the Humane Society.
Henry ran 2.9.
Murray ran 1.5 hours. Are you doing an 80/20 plan? Sounds like some of my workouts using that for JFK.
I rode the Peloton for an hour after going downtown to see the Christmas parade. Nice to see people gather and children having fun. Made a nice dinner for Mrs Bio and me too. Now to deal with my lack of schoolwork since last Wednesday....
Have a wonderful day!
Good morning Masters, and thanks for the start and recap bioguy. I didn't make the list yesterday since I spent the entire day at a craft show. Still, I ended up with over 13,000 steps hauling boxes in and out and up and down, and an extra $740 for Christmas shopping (or, saving )
Moebo - that sucks about your positive diagnosis. But I guess I don't understand why you would have to use sick days to quarantine?
Erika - just reading about your temps makes me shiver. You are tough, and congrats on another 200 mile month.
Nice picture Tet!
Yeah Leslie, if you adopt those cats, they need new names. Vader? For a cat? Don't let him lure you over to "the dark side!"
Decent weather here this morning. 25 degrees and not much wind. I got out for 3 miles and I think I'll drive over to one of the trails later and get in a few more.
Our refrigerator is on the fritz. We called 3 repair companies. One can come next Friday, another said they had an opening the second week in December and the third one never answered the phone. The turkey carcass came out since it was all thawed and I'm making soup today. I just spent $1800 on a crown and I see a new refrigerator in my future (this one is 14+ years old). Ho, ho, ho. Nothing says Christmas like teeth and refrigerators!
Mornin' Masters.
Thanks for the start 'n recap, Bioguy. Sounds like a nice day with DW yesterday.
You had a good workout and made some good money at the craft show yesterday, Jlynne. Well done. Sorry about the fritzy fridge. I hope it's fixable.
Great photos of DS, GF, and tree, Holly.
Tet, I've been getting up and out early since before we moved here, which was 23+ years ago. Ye, 600 days will be my longest streak, until the next day. There are 'Norman Rockwell' ponds here where lots of folks play pond hockey. The closest one is across the street. A few years ago, a guy with seriously-studded tires on his bike showed up one day to do laps around the frozen pond - never saw him again. Topo Magnifly's are fairly light-weight, zero-drop running shoes that are also good for racewalking.
Econo, Milktruck can probably tell you better than I, but I believe the closest airport to Acadia is Bangor, ME. It's probably an hour or two drive from there to Acadia. I've never done the Acadia Half, but we've spent time in Acadia, and it is beautiful. You should go too.
I hope you can solve the calf problem, Twocat.
Moebo, I hope you get negative test results. Meanwhile, if you are feeling good, I don't see why you can't run outside as long as you keep good distance from other folks.
DW and I did well with our shopping circuit yesterday, supporting some local businesses along the way. We were far from empty handed when we left Lindt Chocolates (headquartered locally), I got my new Topos, and we got some gifts and stuff for ourselves a the local Wicked Flannel shop.
I waited for near-daylight before heading out again this morning, getting some reading done early on. I went 7.1 RW miles in refreshing 27° temps. I didn't check my splits along the way, but still managed negative splits, which was good to see when I got back.
Our nephew (the one who lived here for the first half of this year) is coming over today for a late Thanksgiving dinner, since he didn't have one on Thursday. He's looking for a raise or a new job since he is barely getting by on what he makes now. It'll be interesting to hear how that is going.
Have a greta Sunday.
Jay
Without ice cream there would be darkness and chaos.
Thanks, bioguy. Great recap, as always. Jay- I've flown directly into Bar Harbor, but it's a small airport and that was a corporate jet. Otherwise, yeah, Bangor it is. Jeanne- good job at the crafts fair and here's hoping on the 'fridge.
I don't see any problem with running alone outside even after a positive test.
4.8 miles for me this morning to close out the running week. I guess I'll haul out some of the Christmas stuff today.
Catch y'all later. Time for breakfast!
Out there running since dinosaurs roamed the earth
...Murray ran 1.5 hours. Are you doing an 80/20 plan? Sounds like some of my workouts using that for JFK...
Good morning Bio & all.
Yes, it's a 26 week plan from Hal Higdon's website. I didn't join up and pay for online coaching, just used the information and chart on his website:
https://www.halhigdon.com/training-programs/more-training/ultramarathon-50k/
What I liked was the emphasis on most runs being at a slower pace, to build the bodies ability to run for many hours. I've bumped into a lot of world class runners online, interviews, Ted Talks, etc. who advocate really slow long runs. It's hard to slow down that much, but I'll heed their advice and see how it pays off in the long run. (Boooo...bad use of words!)
This Ted Talk by Dr Stephan Seiler resonated with me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MALsI0mJ09I
Higdon's plan probably works out to be over 80% easy paced runs, then I do one day of hard & fast uphill repeats (switchback sidewalk going up, steep angle forest trail down) and one day every two weeks at what I think my race pace will be.
My first year of running was 3 days a week and this plan has me running 5 days a week, a huge change. I went the half marathon distance this summer, and with this plan it'll take me 9 weeks to hit that distance again. This makes sense to me because running 5 days a week is something my body has to adjust to, and this plan seems to give it the time needed.
Anyways, I'm stalling...have to get out there and actually run!
Have a great day everyone!!
MM#209 / JapanJoyful#803
Good morning bio and all.Thanks for another nice 20-point recap.
Murray - it can mean a lot of things but good luck in finding out what "running slow" means for your 50K training. One of these days it will come naturally.
Jay - Thanks. Fantastic for your current 23 years of regular running and more before that. Did you ever ice skate or do other sports before running and RW?magniflys - I missed the "L" and thought the magnifiers were going to be some sort of digital gadget but, I suppose, one of these days shoes will probably be digitalized too with red warning lights when your paces drops off, shoes start wearing out, etc.
With so much other stuff coming together, my Seattle Marathon’s gunna be later on but, instead of running in the continuous rains of this rainiest Seattle month supposed to reach record levels by the end of the month, instead of yesterday’s nonstop drenchngs, this morning had a surprise 50% last quarter moon in the sky to welcome Econo and The Herr and thousands of other runners in this year’s Seattle Half Marathon probably even with autumn leaves carpeting much of the way on the bike path part. Have fun!
ps Surly - right on. Having started my marathon running in 1977 when even some regular marathons had four-hour cutoff times and most runners were very serious and would be visibly disgusted with themselves if they ran slower than they thought they should, it’s a blessing to be able to run with others herein who enjoy and appreciate running for the simple sake of running we all share without regard to how good we are or not on the running fast scale.
"Enjoy yourself. Your younger days never come again." 100yo T. Igarashi to me in geta at top of Mt. Fuji (8/2/87)
Hi Tet,
I ran for about 6 months keeping a close eye on my heart rate, so have a pretty good idea by being aware of my breathing what my 'slow pace' is. Easy conversation pace is a good descriptor.
I do not have any real news and nothing in particular to comment on, other than all Pac 12 teams other than the Bears are evil! You should not root for any of them.
Live like you are dying not like you are afraid to die.
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Jeanne, I hope you can find a refrigerator since they've been in short supply for a while like everything else. And I'm sorry to have to say that I'm rooting for Matthew Stafford to finally get a good chance to beat the Packers today now that he's on a decent team at last!
It was a good day for Michigan football yesterday (also a good day today since the Lions don't play!) with the Wolverines beating the Buckeyes fair and square (clean game, no controversial calls, etc.) and MSU later beating Penn State. Watching the MSU game with the snow covering the field, when they were using the long shots on the field, I literally could not see the Penn State players in those all-white uniforms!
Tet, not all the rides are sunny, but rain would be a problem since the camera lens would need constant wiping. Today's ride started under sunny skies along the coast, then clouded up when it moved inland, but the skies cleared when the route turned back to the coast again.
Another 17 virtual miles today on Stage 3 of my French excursion, this time with 645 feet of climbing. The biggest issue with longer rides is a dead butt from not moving around on the bike like I would riding outside, so I have to remember to stand on the pedals occasionally and try to change position when I can. The following photo is included mainly to show the elevation graph at the top showing where the hills were this time.
Doug, runnin' cycling in Rochester, MI
"Think blue, count two, and look for a red shoe"
The Shirtless Wonder
Morning all,
Looks like everyone has been busy.
I haven't posted for a few days. Friday and Saturday I ran in Cape May. Both runs I fought gale force headwinds of 20-30 mph. Saturday afternoon run at least was warm around 45-50F. I was able to run in shorts, windbreaker plus 2 shirts. However Sunday's run I had to go full winter gear since 35F and 25 mph wind made it a bit cooler than Saturday. Both days I was hit with gusts that had me running in place . The one on Sunday lasted for about a mile. I basically did 6 miles for both runs.
Today I did 4+ miles. It was was my local running club's first event/run the Winter Series informal. I wore shorts even though temps were mid 30F but also wore jacket and 2 shorts. Lots of friends jokingly said they didn't recognize me with shirt on. One said if I got too warm she'd take my windbreaker. Hahaha. Run was followed by pancake breakfast and beer. It was good to see/socialise with friends from club who I haven't seen since pre-covid.
The club also handed out free leftover Winter Series tech shirts from last year. Fortunately they listed 2021 for year vs.2020-21. So even though I didn't run last year's series I can still wear the shirt. I also picked up an extra for running buddy who is hunting this weekend but also running series. I guess my senior citizen status is showing. Haha
Apologies for the long post.
Have a great Sunday
Joe Suder
Nulla camisia et nulla problematum
Oh, and this Ian Sharman interview has some good bits about slower paced long runs and the difference between training for Marathons and ultras:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJxkGCGfr0I
I was tired, and wasn't sure I should run, but a song on the radio got me pumped up, so I did 3.1 miles by run/walking down to the middle school dirt track. It was a balmy, but windy, 58 degrees. The drive home from the cabin yesterday afternoon/evening was tedious with the unrelenting rain and holiday jams, with some Garmin suggested detours off the highway ending up being longer than just staying on it. At the cabin, MBE and I did the 4.5 mile Big Creek hike in what must have been 100% humidity. I even ran one short uphill stretch of it. It's about 800-1000 feet elevation gain over the first 2 miles - which has always been a sweaty slog for me, not runnable even when I was in shape.
Bought a sugar pie pumpkin for 1 dollar and am going to make some kind of pasta sauce with it.
Hoping Econo and Herr Weg had good races today!
"During a marathon, I run about two-thirds of the time. That's plenty." - Margaret Davis, 85 Ed Whitlock regarding his 2:54:48 marathon at age 73, "That was a good day. It was never a struggle."
Well, Seattle’s half (on a new course) turned out to be a beautiful pre-dawn romp with twinkly lights scenery (Space Needle etc.) over a hilly course. The second (post-dawn) half went around part of my graduate alma mater (U Washington), past some places dear to my heart. A large chunk of the course was on I-5, which was trippy. I-5 has vertical layers and as various freeways merge together overhead, it’s like running in a big freeway zipper! Some cars heading South on I-5 gave us supportive horn toots.
I swear I spent 1/2 the race marveling at all the overdressed runners. We are talking shirt + hoodie+ rain jacket + gloves + cap. IT WAS 61 DEGREES AND DRY. The whole way.
Herr Wegetarian was disappointed with his time, but I was ok with mine: 11:08 pace. Every time I was slowly chugging up a hill, I though “if this were a trail race I’d be walking this hill.”
Tetsujin has not changed one little bit in the many years since I last saw him. It was fun to listen to his enthusiastic stories, advice, etc. And thanks for the bag full of expo goodies, Tet! By the time we got to the expo, most of the freebies were gone but we scored a good price on some running shirts (that I don’t need, but a bargain’s a bargain).
JLynne, I’m in the “broken fridge club.” Mine leaks on the hardwood floor. I put a cloth diaper underneath it to soak up the water… No new refrigerators in sight — they’re promising “March” (but at first they were promising September….
coastwalker, I would love to join Little Econo at the Arcadia National Park half, but it’s smack dab in the middle of my busiest time of the school year. I’ll say this — I’d LOVE it if there were a RA meet-up this year.
enke, $1 for a pie? That’s great!
Shadow - No apologies needed for long posts. We've all written our novels in here.
Running Slow - My last 3 runs I've tried to pay better attention to this and form and - not surprisingly - my runs felt a lot better. Now to stay the course . . .
So The Hub is on board with the kitty addition. I spent the morning hide-proofing our extra bedroom, trying to eliminate the places they might be able to hide deep. There are spots where they can hunker down, but that are still be accessible to us. I'm ridiculously nervous about this - nervous about how our senior kitties will deal with this - but I left a message with the shelter letting them know we want them. Ack!
Leslie Living and Running Behind the Redwood Curtain -------------
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