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Dream Jobs and Tough Decisions (Read 73 times)


Occasional Runner

    Money is a very relative thing.

     

    I was 18 when I got into the mining business and my first job paid $6.00 an hour. I was a laborer and was happy to have the job. On that wage, I bought my first house and a brand new pickup. I was living large.

     

    After some time, I got promoted and began running heavy equipment in the mine. That position paid $12.85 per hour. That was a HUGE increase. Early on, I would go weeks without even depositing my paychecks because I didn't even know how to spend all that money. I thought I was rich and was happy to keep doing what I was doing until retirement.

     

    Naturally, I eventually found ways to spend and invest my money.

     

    Fast forward 22 years. I'm now 40 years old and am still in the mining business. I started as a general laborer and am now a Vice President. There were a lot of promotions in that 22 years and a lot of big life changes. I always found new ways to spend and invest my money.

     

    At 40 years old, I think it's time to do something different. I feel like I've done everything I HAD to do, so now I want to do the things I WANT to do. To achieve this, I've been preparing to accept a HUGE pay cut, but it takes time to rewind the things that took 22 years to create.

     

    These are some things I've done to prepare myself for a WAY lower paying job:

    - I got rid of my mortgage

    - I paid off all my vehicles

    - I invested in rental property that creates an income stream

    - I bought a business in Utah that brings in an income stream (Jo runs it)

    - I consolidated all my insurances (SUBSTANTIAL!!!) and cut $1000 per month in expense

    - I've been hoarding air miles to offset future travel costs for vacation a racing (sitting on 600,000+ miles now)

    - Been running and racing locally as much as possible, or within driving distance

     

    To achieve some of these cost reduction initiatives, I had to put in a lot of capital up front, which means that I have less to use later in life. It's all a delicate balance.

    jonferg67


    Endless trails

      I haven't shared the actual numbers but I can say I was offered about 30% of my current earnings. While I agree that there are more important things in life than money, a person still has to meet their financial obligations, and hopefully still be able to enjoy life a little.

       

      I've been preparing for this type of transition for a few years and my living expenses have been sharply reduced as a result. But even with that, I would have been stretched VERY thin every month and stress would have been a dominant emotion in my life.

       

      Well, that's a little different. 30% reduction would be tough unless you had another source of income, or unless you REALLY like

      to eat mac n' cheese. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a trail running RD gig that came close to your current salary.

       

      When I left my job of 20 years I took a salary reduction of about $30K, but I also wasn't stuck in the Bering Sea for two months at a time 

      boarding fishing boats. So, who knows. It's like that saying; "if you every want to make god laugh, tell him your plans".


      Occasional Runner

         

         30% reduction would be tough unless you had another source of income, or unless you REALLY like

        to eat mac n' cheese.

         

        No....I was offered 30% of my current salary, which is a loss of 70% of my earnings. I would have jumped at it if it was only a 30% reduction!

        Low_O2


          That's a tough one! I have found that more money doesn't always mean better job. That is a pretty serious pay cut though, so it definitely would play a large role in the decision. Also, I think when your hobby becomes your job it is no longer as much fun. There is something about running that screams freedom. Freedom to run when you want, where you want and if you want(to a point of course...) When the freedom to choose is gone, it just becomes work. There is something to loving your job, but you don't want it to take the fun out of your hobby either.

          I recently had a similar situation, although it involved a large pay increase and would have been a more enjoyable job ( I think) in my same field. The problem was it would have been a big change to my lifestyle and cut into the amount of flexibility I currently have. When you start thinking about the amount of time taken away from doing things you love, all the sudden the money seems pretty insignificant.

          My point after this rambling is that there are lots of things to consider besides money and it seems like you probably made the right choice. You are in a position where you don't have to take a different job, so just be patient and wait for the right opportunity to come along.

          Messenjah


            I think Mandy and I had the same idea. I've race directed before. Have them give me a call Big grin

             

            Oh, and Kelly, have Ragnar give me a call.  It would probably be a raise for me.  Wink


            Ultra Cowboy

              I have to say that I have counseled young people to get the background and education that will get them a career with enough income and time off that they can pursue their other passions full throttle, rather than held back with not enough time/money.  What you have done to this point echoes that philosophy.

               

              I think you are looking at a change in your priorities coming up in the future, and preparing well for it. Right now might not be the right time, but at least you are in control of where you are headed.

               

              One thing I noticed was my Grandparents RETIRED, but my Parents generation just started a second career.  (They are 70 and 65).

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              Occasional Runner

                Admittedly, my current job puts very little pressure on me. My schedule allows me to do almost anything I want while I still draw a nice paycheck. The obvious move for me was to stay where I am while I hoard cash for a while, and continue to enjoy the freedoms that I've had for the last few years. Or at least until they get tired of my freewheeling work practices.

                  While I always joke with my cousin about us both wanting to have a running related job, I just don't think I could give up being a nurse.  Right now, it's hard.  I work ridiculous hours overnight, sleep very little, and have to juggle running with a hospital schedule, but I get a strong sense of satisfaction.  I save lives and I help children and their families let go when nothing more can be done.  I do know that I can't do this forever though, because it does drain me emotionally.  My goal is to get into public policy, which would allow more flexibility with my running schedule whole still allowing me to care for people.  That being said, I have kicked around a business plan that would have allowed me to run a business taking runners/bikers out on excursions while vacationing, but I ultimately decided that I couldn't lose my identity as a nurse.  There are too many career goals that I have to just abandon this career.  If I didn't have such a strong sense of being a nurse, though, I definitely do think I'd try to parlay my love of running into some type of career, and I think being presented with an offer like you've described would be a much more difficult decision to make.


                  Occasional Runner

                     I couldn't lose my identity as a nurse. 

                    That's also part of the issue. For a lot of us, especially early in our careers, our jobs become our identity. I know I felt that way for a long time, but these days, I don't want it to be my identity. I want my own unique identity. I'm not being critical of that mindset because I know it's something we all seem to fall into and I struggled with it just like everybody else does. Our jobs validate who we are and it gives us status in the world. That's why little boys want to be firemen and cops, and socially, we support that because it's noble and heroic. It's an identity. We make instant assumption about people based on their jobs. When 2 men meet for the first time, it only takes a few sentences before they ask each other about their jobs. Men do this so they can size each other up while making assumptions about wages, the size of their home and what kind of car they might drive. It's all bullshit.

                      That's also part of the issue. For a lot of us, especially early in our careers, our jobs become our identity. I know I felt that way for a long time, but these days, I don't want it to be my identity. I want my own unique identity. I'm not being critical of that mindset because I know it's something we all seem to fall into and I struggled with it just like everybody else does. Our jobs validate who we are and it gives us status in the world. That's why little boys want to be firemen and cops, and socially, we support that because it's noble and heroic. It's an identity. We make instant assumption about people based on their jobs. When 2 men meet for the first time, it only takes a few sentences before they ask each other about their jobs. Men do this so they can size each other up while making assumptions about wages, the size of their home and what kind of car they might drive. It's all bullshit.

                      I get what you're saying.  I have seen the comparisons, even among women.  Maybe it is that I'm earlier in my career enough that I still have the "I can help save the world" attitude, IDK.  I just know that even though I have rough nights at work, I'm not ready to give it up completely, even if the carrot of a running industry job were dangling in front of me.  It sounds like you're ready for a change, and I suspect you'll find a good fit before too long Smile


                      Occasional Runner

                        I get what you're saying.  I have seen the comparisons, even among women.  Maybe it is that I'm earlier in my career enough that I still have the "I can help save the world" attitude, IDK.  I just know that even though I have rough nights at work, I'm not ready to give it up completely, even if the carrot of a running industry job were dangling in front of me.  It sounds like you're ready for a change, and I suspect you'll find a good fit before too long Smile

                        It's also hard when you would essentially feel like you're throwing away the investment in time and education for something totally unrelated. Especially in your situation because you're just getting started in your field. People would think you're nuts, and they might be right.

                        Holden McGruyen


                          When 2 men meet for the first time, it only takes a few sentences before they ask each other about their jobs. Men do this so they can size each other up while making assumptions about wages, the size of their home and what kind of car they might drive. It's all bullshit.

                           

                          I've noticed that too. It almost always comes up on the chairlift while skiing. "So what do you do?" Do we really need to establish pecking order for the 5 minute ride to the top?

                           

                          A 70% pay cut is some serious drop in income. I guess whether or not it would be worth it would depend upon how much one makes to begin with, how much one needs the money, and how much (or little) personal satisfaction one gets from his current job. Personally at this stage I wouldn't want to make that change in pursuit of a hobby, but ask me again in a couple of decades when I'm in my 60's. Right now I have kids to pay for and a good amount of professional satisfaction, with adequate time and money for recreation.

                          I'm Holden McGruyen. Would you like to join me?

                          Birdwell


                            In my short life and career, I've come to realize that dream jobs can be a bit overrated at times. Maybe I'm just jaded.

                            I had my dream job ten years ago. I was a young Park Ranger working for a small municipality with lots of open space and rangeland.

                            I loved every minute of what I did. The people I worked with, on the other hand, well suffice it to say I'm not working there anymore.

                             

                            I look at my grandfather as the best example of a career for me. He was a dentist, he had his own practice. It wasn't until after he passed away and I got to read some of his journals that I came to understand what being a dentist meant to him. His first love was meteorology, And he also had a great interest in physics and mathmatics. He chose to go into dentistry a little later in life, in his mid 30's WW2 got in the way a bit back then. He said that it was a career that would provide a good life for him and his family, and provide him with plenty of time to pursue the things that mattered most for him. He would take the entire family on epic vacations year after year. He spent weeks and months up at our family cabin, playing with kids and grand kids, teaching us how to work, taking us on hikes and helping us explore the outdoors.

                             

                            he was more of a part time dentist, and full time explorer.

                             

                            I'm at a point in life where my primary duty is to provide for my family. Do I wish I had more free time? Absolutely.

                            Could I take a 70% pay cut? Nope. In fact about a year ago I interviewed for and had an opportunity for another job that would have given me a little bit better schedule, and more free time. But they wanted me to take a salary that was half what I was currently making.

                            that just wasn't going to work.

                            In the big picture though, I'm o.k. going to a job I don't love and working more than I want to.

                            it's what I signed up for when I became a father.

                             

                            P.s. I'm happy for anyone who gets to pursue their dreams. I'm happy for those who tough it out at jobs that are less than ideal.

                            We each have our own path to find in life, the trick is finding contentment and joy along the way.


                              In the big picture though, I'm o.k. going to a job I don't love and working more than I want to.

                              it's what I signed up for when I became a father.

                               

                              +1

                               

                              In the past 5 years, I've gone from dream job to struggling daily (thank you Lehman Bros).  I'll be putting in 30 hours this weekend on a project that is due Monday.  If you have it good, don't take it for granted.

                              Daydreamer1


                                The biggest factor for me would be how well I liked my current job. If I loved or liked what I was doing, the increased stress the decrese in pay would bring about would not be worth it. If on the other hand, stress at my job was killing me then it may be worth taking less money to do what I loved.

                                 

                                I switched from driving truck to the medical field quite a few years ago. Took a big pay cut to do it. If I could have grown my trucking company like I had hoped to, my income today would be very much in the upper middle class range, certainly better then it is now.  But being able to be around my kids while they grew up, not having to work 90-100 hours a week and being able to live a healthy life style made it worth it. But then the pay cut was not 70%. More like 25-30%.

                                 

                                This is always a tricky subject. I've seen people that have worked hard to have a stable financial future, never took time to really enjoy life, then died early. I've also seen others who never really had a good job because they were following their dreams and had to rely on others to support them in their old age.

                                 

                                While money can't buy happiness, the lack of money can quicky lead to misery.

                                 

                                So if I had the opportunity to own a running and biking store, which is my dream, but had to take a 70% pay cut to do it. I would probably pass. Unless there was a good chance that the reduction in pay would be short term.

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