Date – Sunday, February 3rd, 2013
Start time – 6:38 am (civil twilight sunrise)
Location – Beginning of Forbidden Drive Trail (Get Directions)
Course – 4x10k trail loop in North Wissahickon. Exact course TBD – most likely similar to the Wissahickon Trail Classic 10k - http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/99107643. Exact course map will be posted by January 30th.
Fat Ass Disclaimer - This is not a race or organized run. There is no support, no trail markings, no entry fee, no prizes, etc.
10k, 20k, 30k options – Feel free to run only run the course once, twice, or three times.
Self-support – Bring everything you need to complete the run. If you park at the start, then you’ll run by your car every lap. Plan B – There is also a coffee shop at the start.
Amenities - There is a port-a-john located at the S/F courtesy of the City Of Brotherly Love.
2/3rds training
In for 20k, but damn thats an early start.
any guess as to how many folks show up?
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In for 20k, but damn thats an early start. any guess as to how many folks show up?
I think that rationale is that most local groups that run long in the Wissahickon seem to do so with early start times. And it starts to get a bit crowded in the morning.
What pace are you running? I'm going to aim for my hilly 50k pace which is 10:30-11:00mpm (I did 30k last weekend and the first 15k was 9:45 which was too fast). If you were going to do 20k, you could of course start a couple of hours later when people are coming through on later laps.
As far as how many people might show - no idea. I'd imagine there will be a definite few of us. But it might just be a few.
Dirty Girl
Important question...is the course marked? Im from York and have never been over there but have heard about the Forbidden Drive Trail. Oh and I am super slow so cant depend on sticking with others.
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I run with this group occasionally, but I run these trails every weekend. It's usually a varied group of paces. Not sure about the course being marked, but the trails are very well marked.
I might be in for 30k, depending on other plans that weekend. 6:38 is really early for me.
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I think that rationale is that most local groups that run long in the Wissahickon seem to do so with early start times. And it starts to get a bit crowded in the morning. What pace are you running? I'm going to aim for my hilly 50k pace which is 10:30-11:00mpm (I did 30k last weekend and the first 15k was 9:45 which was too fast). If you were going to do 20k, you could of course start a couple of hours later when people are coming through on later laps. As far as how many people might show - no idea. I'd imagine there will be a definite few of us. But it might just be a few.
Makes sense. As far as pace I have no idea, never run the trails there. I just ran an 8 mile loop at French creek with a moderate amount of elevation change and fairly rocky trails at 8:50 average pace but it was work. I think I'll just take it easy on the first lap, try to get behind somebody who knows the trail and then see how I feel for the second one and take it up a notch if need be. This will be my first trail "race" and first "race" over 10k so no need to rush.
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Oh, Dang, it's on Sunday, and I've got church commitments.
Long trail run day is Saturday for me.
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Oh boo. I just realized that I am doing a little trail half marathon (Squirrelly Tail) the same day.
Occasional Runner
Before I moved to Utah, I lived right next to this trail system and ran it almost daily. The trails never get crowded with runners but there's a lot of mountain bike traffic. The trails are marked, but the markings are only useful if you're familiar with the trail system of have a map. There are a lot of intersecting trails in the area. The majority of the traffic is on Forbidden Drive, which is a roadway, not a trail. It's a nice set of trails and I always enjoyed running there. This may be a good chance to explore the area if you've never been. I'm not a fan of fat ass races, so even if I still lived there, I wouldn't run it, but if you're into that kind of thing, it's a great spot for it.
Computer Geek
Could someone define what a "fat-ass" race is?
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Fat-Ass races are informal races that are self supported by the runners themselves, either carry it with you or people chip in to fill the aid stations. It's a great opportunity to get out and "race" others without having to pay big bucks. Most fat-ass races are on trails and usually have ultra distances.
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I personally wouldn't drive all the way out from York for a first year fatass training run! But to answer your questions - the course will not be marked. The course will be similar if not the same to Wissahickon Trail Classic 10k course: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/99107643. There should be a printable map up early next week on the race's blog.
The trails are all very well established and there's no chance of getting lost. As lace_up points out the main difficulty will be staying on the right trail in some places. On the north side there are a lot of trails packed into a tight area.
Depending on how many people show, it would be good if several different groups ran the first lap together. But there may not be any more than a handful of people.
anybody know how to convert a mapmyrun map/course into a garmin connect course so I can throw this on my watch before I show up? I have accounts with both but so far I'm stumped.
I don't know how to do that. I ran the course on my garmin. Would that be useful?
also I see a printable map is up on the blog.