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All I know is that the winkie is inflammatory in and of itself.
As the OP, I'm not sure what the post says about me.
Only you can make that assessment accurately.
You classify yourself as Middle of the Road but apparently think our current POTUS believes in communist ideals. And yet many of those policies regarding healthcare and taxation used to be the Republican platform until very recently.
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I've heard it said that Obama instituted RomneyCare, so it cam be blamed on either or both -- and if Romney is elected, then the blame can continue without any change at all - is that right?
It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.
You caught me in a good mood - Actually I was trying to channel my inner Skootr - Man is a loving humanitarian
Speaking of "JC", DB's post blows mine out of the water because he wrote from a loving heart, whereas I wrote from an pissed-off one.
Long dead ... But my stench lingers !
Piss off Mr. Andy-Pants
Even worse I had to watch it in the Detroit Airport drinking $7.50 - 20 ounce beers (x4) - I only was unlucky enough to see the 2nd half
C'mon, that will only piss half the people off. Perhaps less, as the Giants have a bigger fan base than the Packers. Set your aspirations higher man. Personally I sent the OP to relevant people days ago via PM. A thread based on it could only go one direction.
C'mon, that will only piss half the people off. Perhaps less, as the Giants have a bigger fan base than the Packers.
Set your aspirations higher man.
Personally I sent the OP to relevant people days ago via PM. A thread based on it could only go one direction.
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Can we call it Obamneycare? Or better still, O'Bomneycare. That way we can work the Irish into the whole Kenyan, Muslim, Mormon, Socialist, Capitalist agenda.
Janie, today I quit my job. And then I told my boss to go f*** himself, and then I blackmailed him for almost sixty thousand dollars. Pass the asparagus.
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When I was a poor student putting myself through college and working a minimum wage job with no health insurance, I was mighty grateful that there was a program to pay my surgeon when I hit a car with my face while biking to class. That the program was paid for by folks who had it taken out of their taxes and who had earned that money by the sweat of their brows was not lost on me. And if it is 'socialism' that my taxes now pay for similar programs to those in need, I have no problem with that 'socialism". I am glad that any of those hard working tax payers didn't get to call me lazy and undeserving at the time to my face, for I would have cried.
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Only you can make that assessment accurately. You classify yourself as Middle of the Road but apparently think our current POTUS believes in communist ideals. And yet many of those policies regarding healthcare and taxation used to be the Republican platform until very recently.
If I could be anything I would be a Jeffersonian, minus the slavery thing.
Thomas Paine "That government is best which governs least." inherited by Thomas Jefferson
I don't think this is Obama's fault. The president tries to state policy, but cannot constitutionally create law, so it's not a President problem.
I can find flaw on both sides of the aisle
---I understand why we subsidize oil exploration, and that it could be a national security issue, but at 10B profit per quarter, maybe it's time energy companies funded their own research. Boo Republicans
---I don't think peanut farmers need subsidies anymore. Boo Republicans
---Now some of the other farmed commodities are different. Dairy, Beef, Pork, Grains might need some help. In a truly capitalistic society all of these farmers would leave their crops behind in poor times for more profitable crops and because of the subsidation of other governments for their farmers true capitalism cannot thrive in some of these arenas. However, as less people produced a commodity it would increase in value and the capitalists would equalize the demand/surplus equation. This ones a draw.
---I am a landlord. I have some properties in section 8 and others not in section 8. The way the section 8 program works is that the tenant can only make a certain wage to still qualify for section 8 assistance and this number is far below the poverty live. Once they make that amount they are cutoff of section 8 assistance. There is not step down weaning, it's cold turkey. This to me is the example of the handout which creates dependancy, it is almost impossible for a person to bridge the gap from section 8 to self support. and with such a high barrier, I think there is an enticement not to try. This is my opinion and I have a small data set to work from, but it's 100% accurate in that small data set so far. Boo Democrats. However, I don't see a good solution from the Republican side.
@Crap work is calling I will leave this unfinished forever.
I happen to like paying taxes, as it means that I have excess. I'd be worried when I was not paying taxes as I would have no income.
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What in the Jehu?
I'd be worried when I was not paying taxes as I would have no income.
Faulty logic.
"I want you to pray as if everything depends on it, but I want you to prepare yourself as if everything depends on you."
-- Dick LeBeau
Guilty.
I dislike the loopholes that allow for folks who make an income not pay taxes.
I'd be ok with a simplified tax code
Income from all sources
(Depedent deduction) - This is really a bonus applied to family size
Taxable income
Taken to a tax table
Rates start at 0% as many people of the poorest people pay nothing after deductions
Rates cap at 50%
No refundable credits for childeren (Some people pay negative tax)
No itemized deductions
No less tax rate on capital gains
No tax free interest
I would probably try and keep the tax rate similar to the average of today for people 0-$100k, maybe $150k then start ramping up, so that people were paying 50% on all income above either $500k or $1M.
Yes - That is taxing the rich,
Yes - That takes away any benefit to charity or owning a house
Rich are still keeping 50% of extra money's earned and they will still be money hungry enough to earn at 50 cents on the dollar.
AMT goes away
Loop holes go away
Thousands of tax professional and IRS agents out of work.
No Talent Drips
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Short and sweet...the only other tax I'd encourage is the sales (consumption) tax. Raise the sweet bejeesus out of both. And get rid of the rest.
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