RunningAHEAD - Topic: Is V02 max a graphing option in the new log?

Is V02 max a graphing option in the new log? (Read 329 times)

imogene view log dork.major dork.	posted: 4/17/2008 at 3:46 PM
	Here's hoping
	Reaching 1,243 in 2008 -- one day, one week, one mile at a time.

jEfFgObLuE view log Frustrating Project	posted: 4/17/2008 at 4:15 PM
	Quote from imogene on 4/17/2008 at 3:46 PM: Here's hoping Good question, but do bear in mind that the VO2max estimate is absolutely meaningless unless it comes from an all-out race or some other high quality all-out effort. You only have one (current) VO2max, and calculating it from race times is one way to estimate it. It has no meaning for a training run.
	20th Century: 800m: 2:04 \|1600m: 4:37 \|3200m: 10:06 \|5k: 16:23 \|10k: 35:38 \|15k: 54:20 25k: 1:35:59 21st Century: 5k: 19:42 \|10k: 43:00 "Do not allow children to mix drinks. It is unseemly, and they use too much vermouth." Steve Allen Oswald acted alone.

Gopher Ryan view log	posted: 4/17/2008 at 4:25 PM
	For easy runs, then yes, it has no meaning. But say you typically do a once weekly 90% effort tempo runs and you tend to vary the distance and pace week to week. You could graph your VDOT from those weekly runs and see if you're making training progress.

Gopher Ryan

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posted: 4/17/2008 at 4:30 PM
modified: 4/17/2008 at 5:27 PM

An ad-hoc example, where V02~~max~~ from your tempo run shows your progress.
Week / Distance / Time / V02~~max~~

1 / 4 mi / 40 min / 30
2 / 5 mi / 50 min / 30.5
3 / 4 mi / 39 min / 30.9
4 / 6 mi / 60 min / 30.9
5 / 3 mi / 27 min / 33.5 <-- is this jump real?
6 / 5 mi / 47 min / 32.8
7 / 4 mi / 38 min / 31.9 <--oops, maybe I'm overtraining, or Im slowing down? But this is faster than week 3

(corrected to say V02)

jEfFgObLuE view log Frustrating Project	posted: 4/17/2008 at 4:47 PM
	Interesting example, though it's not really VO2max anymore if it's not run at...your max. I brought this up mainly to dispel the pervasive notion of the "every run VO2max", but yours is a savvy example of a way to put this to use.
	20th Century: 800m: 2:04 \|1600m: 4:37 \|3200m: 10:06 \|5k: 16:23 \|10k: 35:38 \|15k: 54:20 25k: 1:35:59 21st Century: 5k: 19:42 \|10k: 43:00 "Do not allow children to mix drinks. It is unseemly, and they use too much vermouth." Steve Allen Oswald acted alone.

Gopher Ryan

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posted: 4/17/2008 at 4:52 PM
modified: 4/17/2008 at 4:57 PM

Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 4/17/2008 at 4:47 PM:

Interesting example, though it's not really VO2max anymore if it's not run at...your max. Tongue

I brought this up mainly to dispel the pervasive notion of the "every run VO2max", but yours is a savvy example of a way to put this to use.

Thanks for the correction. I meant to just say V02 for that particular run. Where V02max is a physiological limit for your body, and V02 is basically a calculation normalizing your effort based upon your pace and distance. Call it VDOT, or V02 or whatever, it seems the terminology needs to be used in context.

eric :)	posted: 4/18/2008 at 12:37 PM
	The new log will allow you to display/graph this metric, along with several other ones. eric