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| Summary Page Update Request (Read 546 times) |
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posted: 3/19/2008 at 9:24 PM
modified: 3/19/2008 at 9:29 PM |
Hopefully a picture is worth a thousand words.  |
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beatlemaniac view log |
posted: 3/19/2008 at 9:41 PM |
Hmmm....has this come up before?  |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 1:49 PM |
Okay, after watching this picture for some minutes I get it, you want pace instead of total time...
I will vote it down as long as its not made customizable in the user options. That is, for me my average pace says nothing about my shape. As "beatlemaniac" says, this discussion have been up quite some times. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 2:34 PM |
| Quote from billerby on 3/20/2008 at 1:49 PM: Okay, after watching this picture for some minutes I get it, you want pace instead of total time...
I will vote it down as long as its not made customizable in the user options. That is, for me my average pace says nothing about my shape. As "beatlemaniac" says, this discussion have been up quite some times.
Total time is already on your summary. I'm okay with whatever shows up in the log redesign.
I do have to say that these periodic "reminders" are a bit tiresome, though. |
Drew
Road to the Monkey
Just run, baby.
Your hide will make a fine poncho. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 2:55 PM |
| Quote from DrewEOB on 3/20/2008 at 2:34 PM: Total time is already on your summary. I'm okay with whatever shows up in the log redesign.
I do have to say that these periodic "reminders" are a bit tiresome, though.
I agree. |
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| view log Playmaker / nemesis |
posted: 3/20/2008 at 3:43 PM
modified: 3/20/2008 at 3:44 PM |
I hate to beat this dead-horse subject, but here goes: I realize that this kind of pace value is often not truly meaningful, as people train and race at variable paces, under varied conditions, and on varied terrain. I understand that these facts drive the principle behind a lot of people not wanting to see pace on the summary page. I get that.
But you know what? People are gonna keep asking for this. It's a rather obvious request, actually, and because of that, it won't go away. When I first started using RA, I wondered about it myself, and I'm an experienced runner who knows all about the fact that average pace over a weekly/monthly/yearly span isn't really meaningful.
I think that Eric should consider including it, and anyone who doesn't need it can ignore it. Or even include an option to turn it off it bunches your panties that much. Sometimes, rather than beat the dead horse, you just have to bury it. Or chop its head off and put it in someone's bed. Or something.
BTW Flyin Ryan, nice graphic. |
20th Century: 800m: 2:04 |1600m: 4:37 |3200m: 10:06 |5k: 16:23 |10k: 35:38 |15k: 54:20 |25k: 1:35:59
21st Century: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00
What are you doing? |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 4:04 PM
modified: 5/1/2008 at 3:48 PM |
I don't have anything to say about the usefulness of monitoring pace vs. not, but I did have an idea. Use it if you want to.
For those of you that use firefox as your web browser, I've written a Greasemonkey script that will add weekly and monthly paces. I'm working on adding the annual and total ones, too, but my javascript isn't top notch. I'm just sort of hacking it together. 
Anyways, to use this, do the following:
1. If you haven't already, install greasemonkey.
2. Restart firefox.
3. Install my script by following the link and choosing install.
Voila, you should have paces on summary pages.
Like I said, my javascript is rusty, so if anybody wants to make additions or changes please feel free to do so. If you want to post about it here that's cool, or my email address is included in the script itself if you want to contact me.
Here's what it looks like in action, using globule as an example:
MTA: Disclaimer: of course, it may totally screw up the way some pages of RA look, but you can always disable it or modify it. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 4:21 PM |
| Quote from jEfFgObLuE on 3/20/2008 at 3:43 PM: I think that Eric should consider including it, and anyone who doesn't need it can ignore it. Or even include an option to turn it off it bunches your panties that much.
I think Eric has considered including it and has weighed it against the many other feature requests he has not to mention the full redesign of the log and has stated his rationale for not including it at this time. Some people just didn't like the answer.
I think the guy has a lot on his plate supporting a site that is basically free to the users. And he has said that in the next version of the log he plans to make the summary graph much more user customizable. Lets see what he comes up with. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 4:28 PM |
| Quote from mikeymike on 3/20/2008 at 4:21 PM: I think the guy has a lot on his plate supporting a site that is basically free to the users. And he has said that in the next version of the log he plans to make the summary graph much more user customizable. Lets see what he comes up with.
Dude, I realize that this item 277 on a 250 item list, so I'm not advocating that this be prioritized by any stretch of the imagination. I understand the opposition to it, and even agree with it in principle. I just personally think he should do include it. Not everyone agrees, and that's cool. Just my $0.02.
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20th Century: 800m: 2:04 |1600m: 4:37 |3200m: 10:06 |5k: 16:23 |10k: 35:38 |15k: 54:20 |25k: 1:35:59
21st Century: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00
What are you doing? |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 4:43 PM
modified: 3/20/2008 at 5:33 PM |
Quote from antihero on 3/20/2008 at 4:04 PM:Anyways, to use this, do the following: 1. If you haven't already, install greasemonkey. 2. Restart firefox. 3. Install my script by following the link and choosing install. Voila, you should have paces on summary pages.
Antihero- You are my hero. Thank you. Your plugin works great!
Now if anyone else ever asks for average pace in this version of the log, we can just point them to Antihero's javascript installation instructions in this thread. No more beating the dead-horse. No more bickering about the usefulness or lackthereof, or whether its a waste of Eric's time. Everyone wins.  |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 7:09 PM |
My point has nothing to do with the usefulness of the data, just that we should all wait until the log redesign to see what happens. All the constant "reminding" is doing is pushing something that's not going to get done until the log is redesigned.
Nice plugin, Antihero... well done. |
Drew
Road to the Monkey
Just run, baby.
Your hide will make a fine poncho. |
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| view log Funky Monkey |
posted: 3/20/2008 at 7:18 PM |
| Kinda reminds me of my six year old daughter. She keeps asking for a snack over and over in the hour right before dinner. You know, as if somehow by asking over and over we are 1) not going to get angry, and 2) more likely to give it to her. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 7:48 PM
modified: 3/20/2008 at 7:48 PM |
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
-Albert Einstien
I finally got a different result, so am I insane? |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 7:58 PM |
Are you calling my six year old insace?
I would. |
| It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys attack. |
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posted: 3/20/2008 at 8:00 PM |
| Quote from Trent on 3/20/2008 at 7:58 PM: Are you calling my six year old insace?
I would.
I met her. She seemed quiet and shy. Not insane at all. (Though it's always the quiet ones...) |
Drew
Road to the Monkey
Just run, baby.
Your hide will make a fine poncho. |
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