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Sometimes a bee sting is not just a bee sting... (Read 308 times)

    Weird.  So why would bee venom have such a delayed reaction?

    I know nothing about medicine...

    But, the 60+ mile bike ride 2 days after the bee sting, and 1 day preceding the "whatever the heck the problem is" was enough for me to think the bike ride may have had something to do with it.

     

    The only time I've seen something like that was when I tore my hamstring a long time ago.  There was a heck of a lot of bruising from my glute down to my heel.  One solid 'bruise'.

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      Maybe you'll find you don't have asthma anymore either. Wink

       

      Not gonna hold my breath...ha!  Though a few years on immunotherapy could potentially have that end, which would be awesome!

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        I know nothing about medicine...

        But, the 60+ mile bike ride 2 days after the bee sting, and 1 day preceding the "whatever the heck the problem is" was enough for me to think the bike ride may have had something to do with it.

         

        It looked way nasty before I even got on the bike...by the following day it was just larger all-around.  Everyone was assuming (knowing my past history Blush) that I crashed my mtn. bike the day before.

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          Here's how it's lookin' right now...

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            A poisonous spider disguised as a bee?

            Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.


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              A poisonous spider disguised as a bee?

               

              Ack...*shudders* I never did see the bee, just the stinger and venom sack stuck in my leg.  Now I'm gonna have spider nightmares.  Only thing worse than that would be a poisonous clown -- Stephen King totally had my # with IT! Tongue

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              • 130#s (and stay there, gotdammit!)

                Sorry about the nightmares, but after what Trent said, and the fact that you didn't see the bug, you could consider something other than a bee.

                 

                MTA: Looking at Wikipedia, probably a bee is the only bug that would leave the stinger.  You didn't contact the venomous spur on the hind leg of a male platypus, did you?

                Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.


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                  MTA: Looking at Wikipedia, probably a bee is the only bug that would leave the stinger.  You didn't contact the venomous spur on the hind leg of a male platypus, did you?

                   

                  Hmmm...I hadn't thought platypus (seriously, they have venomous spurs?!  That is freaky!!). Wink

                   

                  Yeah, honeybee is my assumption, especially since we were passing by about a solid mile of blueberry fields.  Lotsa honeybees around there.

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                  A Dance with Monkeys

                    Think of poison ivy. If exposed, it takes 1-4 days for the rash to show up. Not all reactions are immediate.

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                      With a true cellulitis, the red should go away when you press, there should be skin swelling, severe skin tenderness and warmth, and you should have a fever nearly from the outset. I would also expect a blood test to be done, showing an elevation in your white blood count.

                       

                      Bee venom can cause this kind of reaction, and time can heal it. If it were cellulitis, septra would not likely have much of an effect (as opposed to an abscess, for which septra may be appropriate).

                       

                      So. Still not convinced Smile

                       

                      Yes...exactly.  What I was driving at was the presence or absence of blanching erythema.

                       

                      We actually see a ton of folks with cellulitis at our place, most of whom don't have fevers if the cellulitis is relatively mild; therefore, we typically don't check white counts in that they don't really affect our decision making on these patients.  (For some reason, my city has a ton of soft tissue infections. So much so, that we were selected to be part of a CDC surveillance location for that reason--which frankly gives me the heebie jeebies! )

                       

                      While your last point is well taken, actually, the strep in our region is sensitive to Septra (TMP/Sulfa AKA Bactrim), so it turns out to not be a terrible choice around here.  YMMV, of course.

                       

                      The second photo just doesn't look like a resolving cellulitis to me.   Really looks more like an reaction to bee venom.

                       

                      I'm gonna stop 'cuz I'm getting carried away and putting even myself to sleep...

                       

                      PS:  Zoomy,  thanks for sharing your story.  You are wise to get skin tested.  Please let us know how it goes, and best of luck to you!


                      A Dance with Monkeys

                        Problem is, without a tissue bx and cx, it is hard to know what exactly is the infecting organism, so while bactrim may be good for strep, it is not good for others. I typically treat more broadly, making sure to cover other skin organisms.


                        And yeah, if you did not see the bug, there is really no telling what it was. But it looks reactive more than infective.

                        ShuffleFaster


                          The whole venom sac thing has always given me the creeps

                           

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfCf1LEgaE

                           

                          (The worst part is how the sac keeps pumping venom into you even after the insect leaves it behind. 00:54  ***SHUDDER***)

                           

                           

                          Trent, Clindamycin is the typical first line around here for a cellulitis because we get MRSA cellulitis here too.  What do you guys use?


                          A Dance with Monkeys

                            Depends on how sick. If sick, I usually start with a gram of ceftriaxone and then follow with cephalexin, amox/clav or clinda, typically in that order.

                             

                            Just now I started a kiddo on some cephalexin. That was a mosquito bite that blistered several days ago, and today the (scratched) blister led to a cellulitis. Blanching erythema, tenderness, warmth, swelling. Oh yeah!

                               

                              Not gonna hold my breath...ha!  

                               

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                                The whole venom sac thing has always given me the creeps

                                 

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfCf1LEgaE

                                 

                                (The worst part is how the sac keeps pumping venom into you even after the insect leaves it behind. 00:54  ***SHUDDER***)

                                 

                                 

                                Gah...yeah, I read that it keeps pumping, after the fact...seeing that makes me kinda queasy.  It was at least 30-60 seconds before I had a good spot to pull over to get the stinger out...while the venom sack kept emptying shit into my leg.  Jeebuz... Dead

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                                '14 Goals:

                                • 2 olympic distance duathlons -- 6 days apart -- PR at least 1

                                • 130#s (and stay there, gotdammit!)

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